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Old 05-13-2022, 02:58 AM   #1
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Default Big update Manjaro

It's downloading A LOT of stuff. I'm scared, I've everything working the way I want it.
Let's see what happens, I'll let you know...
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Old 05-13-2022, 03:02 AM   #2
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It will be fine.

What Could Go Wrong?
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Old 05-13-2022, 03:44 AM   #3
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"It's downloading A LOT of stuff. I'm scared, I've everything working the way I want it.
Let's see what happens, I'll let you know..."

His last words😂
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Old 05-13-2022, 04:03 AM   #4
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If you don't want updates - install Debian. LOL 😁
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Old 05-13-2022, 08:13 AM   #5
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It all went without a hitch

And I'll go one further than XoechZ...If you don't want updates, disconnect from the internet (apparently it's a lot of work to get it back: https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=163)
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Old 05-13-2022, 09:00 AM   #6
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It's alive. Still have to try my cadence/jack setup, but it looks good, I guess
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Old 05-13-2022, 09:12 AM   #7
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An anomaly I saw during the Manjaro update was with the manjaro-keyring, which produced the following errors.

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==> Appending keys from manjaro.gpg...
gpg: error reading key: No public key
Error while configuring manjaro-keyring
gpg: error reading key: No public key
Error while configuring manjaro-keyring
==> Locally signing trusted keys in keyring...
  -> Locally signed 1 keys.
==> Importing owner trust values...
==> Disabling revoked keys in keyring...
  -> Disabled 2 keys.
Doing a reinstall of manjaro-keyring results in the same two errors and the disabling of two keys, which I presume are the same.

I've seen this happen before and it resolved itself, but I'm looking into it with more scrutiny this time around.
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Old 05-13-2022, 09:43 AM   #8
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gpg: error reading key: No public key
error while configuring manjaro-keyring
From what I read a member of the Manjaro development team left, so his key is no longer valid, but the reference is still needed until the code he worked on is replaced or something along those liines.

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Old 05-13-2022, 10:15 AM   #9
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From what I read a member of the Manjaro development team left, so his key is no longer needed, but refrence is still needed until the code he worked on is replaced or something along those liines.

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That's kinda what I am finding as well. I found a few threads with commands to purge and then reinstate stuff, but one guy broke his system so his local home folder was inaccessible, so I skipped trying any of that.
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Old 05-13-2022, 12:23 PM   #10
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From what I read a member of the Manjaro development team left, so his key is no longer needed, but refrence is still needed until the code he worked on is replaced or something along those liines.

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yes correct
in manjaro and (I think) in all derivatives of Arch these errors sometimes occur ... it's normal ... you need to update the keyring ... on Arch "sudo pacman -S archlinux-keyring"
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Old 05-13-2022, 12:49 PM   #11
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An anomaly I saw during the Manjaro update was with the manjaro-keyring, which produced the following errors.

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==> Appending keys from manjaro.gpg...
gpg: error reading key: No public key
Error while configuring manjaro-keyring
gpg: error reading key: No public key
Error while configuring manjaro-keyring
==> Locally signing trusted keys in keyring...
  -> Locally signed 1 keys.
==> Importing owner trust values...
==> Disabling revoked keys in keyring...
  -> Disabled 2 keys.
Doing a reinstall of manjaro-keyring results in the same two errors and the disabling of two keys, which I presume are the same.

I've seen this happen before and it resolved itself, but I'm looking into it with more scrutiny this time around.
yes, keyring failed here too. I'm not going to do anything, just in case.
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Old 05-13-2022, 02:09 PM   #12
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Looks like they just pushed an update to address it via manjaro-keyring-20220514-1.
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Old 05-13-2022, 02:27 PM   #13
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Looks like they just pushed an update to address it via manjaro-keyring-20220514-1.
Yes indeed, and it installed without error this time.
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Old 05-13-2022, 02:32 PM   #14
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Yes indeed, and it installed without error this time.
I don't see it
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I don't see it
Maybe all the servers are not synced yet.
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Maybe all the servers are not synced yet.
we are 3rd in the world's list
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Old 05-13-2022, 06:57 PM   #17
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I love the fact there are so many Manjaro users here!
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I love the fact there are so many Manjaro users here!
We seem to be missing one these days, though.
It would be nice to know what happened to James Peters.

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Old 05-14-2022, 10:24 AM   #19
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We seem to be missing one these days, though.
It would be nice to know what happened to James Peters.

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His amps page is still up, but it hasn't been updated since 2020.

https://www.petersamplification.com/purchase

Hope he's not a Covid19 victim.
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Old 05-14-2022, 01:01 PM   #20
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Is it me or did the latest KDE update in Manjaro change the font style (and maybe the size) a little in Dolphin? For the life of me it seems narrower.

Either that or I need to rest my eyes.
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Is it me or did the latest KDE update in Manjaro change the font style (and maybe the size) a little in Dolphin? For the life of me it seems narrower.

Either that or I need to rest my eyes.
I don't see very well up close, sorry, it was always tiny.
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I don't see very well up close, sorry, it was always tiny.
BTW, loving the Vermette Honeywave wallpaper...
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Old 05-16-2022, 07:05 PM   #23
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Hope he's not a Covid19 victim.
We shouldn't assume the worst. People leave forums all the time, for all kinds of reasons.
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Old 05-17-2022, 04:06 AM   #24
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Is it me or did the latest KDE update in Manjaro change the font style (and maybe the size) a little in Dolphin? For the life of me it seems narrower.

Either that or I need to rest my eyes.

I wholly agree! In Xfce it is the same. I tried with the font settings but it is not the same. Not serious, but it is better if they address it sooner than later...
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Everyone on Manjaro now huh?
On Manjaro KDE especially, i like likhan, waste less space and Manjaro seems to be the only one that have it pre-installed.
On Fedora KDE Noto Sans Semicondensed Semibold

Time flies and now ive been using linux long enough so it feels wierd to visit Windows, if you think you know what scary is
Long time a go it was called PC, now MS

I saw on the Manjaro forum that there was a few days of Timeshift issues, but i think it is fixed now
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Time flies and now ive been using linux long enough so it feels wierd to visit Windows, if you think you know what scary is
The first time I needed to tweak something on a Windows machine and couldn't instantly remember how to do it was like an epiphany that I was finally getting the eeevile ways of Microsoft and Windows out of my head.
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does Manjaro automatically remove old versions of updated stuff or does it retain them?
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does Manjaro automatically remove old versions of updated stuff or does it retain them?
I know that yay seems to keep 3 versions of everything. So yesterday when I installed latest librewolf and it was built on Arch using a dependency version not yet in Manjaro, it was super easy to go into the yay cache and yay -U the working one.

EDIT: looks like Pamac also defaults to keep 3 versions.
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The first time I needed to tweak something on a Windows machine and couldn't instantly remember how to do it was like an epiphany that I was finally getting the eeevile ways of Microsoft and Windows out of my head.

I am still not as Brutal as Glennbo when it comes to Windows comedy roasts
Think there will be a Windows Linux Distro.. i think, hmm
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I am still not as Brutal as Glennbo when it comes to Windows comedy roasts
Think there will be a Windows Linux Distro.. i think, hmm
You mean ReactOS?: https://reactos.org/
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You mean ReactOS?: https://reactos.org/[/QUOTE

Nope, CBL-Mariner was the name i've seen somewhere.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...r-1.0-May-2022

Yeah, Google has some but they never seem to make it to the daylight. I was only joking with ReactOS...
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Yeah, Google has some but they never seem to make it to the daylight. I was only joking with ReactOS...

Well, then i'll top that with Glennbo's absolute fav, WindowsFX
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=linuxfx


*me hides, the man has a BAS..*

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Well, then i'll top that with Glennbo's absolute fav, WindowsFX
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=linuxfx


*me hides, the man has a BAS..*
Wow. Cloneville. Scary really.
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Wow. Cloneville. Scary really.

All is relative, try stand next to a can of Surströmming.
Ps, SmajjL can roast also
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If you don't want updates - install Debian. LOL 😁

I Think TRG - TheRealGeek said something like, "you can probably pee in your computer and Debian will still work.."


But i will visit Manjaro tomorrow, yes yes
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I am still not as Brutal as Glennbo when it comes to Windows comedy roasts
Think there will be a Windows Linux Distro.. i think, hmm
Microsoft lost me when they first put the GWX (Get Windows Ten) executable file on my Windows 7 machine, then after me disabling it with some registry keys, Microsoft circumvented me blocking them, by adding GWX.exe to normal security updates, so it would download and run without any permission from the user.

Lastly, if you were awake to see that Microsoft had started the install of an OS you might not want, they give you some buttons to click, but not one that says "DO NOT INSTALL". I put a stop to them thinking that they can go around me and do what they want with my computers.

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Microsoft lost me when they first put the GWX (Get Windows Ten) executable file on my Windows 7 machine, then after me disabling it with some registry keys, Microsoft circumvented me blocking them, by adding GWX.exe to normal security updates, so it would download and run without any permission from the user.

Lastly, if you were awake to see that Microsoft had started the install of an OS you might not want, they give you some buttons to click, but not one that says "DO NOT INSTALL". I put a stop to them thinking that they can go around me and do what they want with my computers.
Yep, absolutely shocking.

As a counter to that nonsense:

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You mean ReactOS?: https://reactos.org/
They've only been working on it for 20 years, give them a break. Now, michaelangelo (no relation) may have taken that long to do the Sistine Chapel, but that was actually worth it.
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Microsoft lost me when they first put the GWX (Get Windows Ten) executable file on my Windows 7 machine, then after me disabling it with some registry keys, Microsoft circumvented me blocking them, by adding GWX.exe to normal security updates, so it would download and run without any permission from the user.

Lastly, if you were awake to see that Microsoft had started the install of an OS you might not want, they give you some buttons to click, but not one that says "DO NOT INSTALL". I put a stop to them thinking that they can go around me and do what they want with my computers.

Yep, that's what did it for me too. I had skipped 8 and 8.1 as they were hideous, and I foolishly thought Monopolysoft would make up for it in 10. The fact they were giving it away seemed like an admission of the the error of their ways. How wrong I was. Fortunately, I was already exploring Linux at that point, so the transition was easy.
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Yep, absolutely shocking.

As a counter to that nonsense:
Interesting video. Watching it now.

I went from using and programming on Commodore 64s to Amigas, but then due to becoming employed as a programmer and IT guy for a company that worked totally with DOS and then later Windows when it came out. That made me need DOS and Windows machines, but for years I used my Amiga 2000 with a GoldenGate bridgeboard so I could run DOS and Windows as a full hardware speed tasks on my Amiga.

Finally in 2001 Windows XP finally had the preemptive multi-tasking I was used to on my Amiga, so I built my first Windows PC. Then in 2018 I switched seven machines in my house to Linux, and haven't looked back.
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