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Old 08-23-2019, 08:12 PM   #81
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I don't know how good their tutorials are about compression, but With a CommodeOdor 64 and EA Instant Music you can create impressive music beetz like this, and all the instruments you hear are included unlike some DAWs that make you have to get your own!

See, right here they have better "how to" videos than Kenny's.

Is that what happened to the 80's ? explains so much....
That vid was like going to the dentist!
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:15 PM   #82
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which is delicious. Personally, as an advanced REAPER user, I do not learn anything by watching Kenny's videos but I watch them all because I love his accent, his pedagogy and his lyricism
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Man I hate the 21st century.
AAAaaaaahhhhh! Idiocracy ref FTW!

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LOL 3 pages in and not a single additional post from the OP.....cutnpaste for the win!
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It's somewhat troubling to see that an adult gets some kind of perverted kick out of continually trolling.
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Commodore 64's damn that takes me back. Remember Video Toaster on the Commodore Amiga????

Still had a full head of hair back then and the chicks dug me!!!!!
Buddy of mine had the Video Toaster and I still have the SupraGen Genlock and Digital Creations DCTV broadcast quality devices from yesteryear. He and I did video multi-camera production in the 80s. I still have my Amiga, but also have an Amiga emulator on my PC with virtual copies of several old Amiga HDs that I can boot up.
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All the OP has done is cause us all to praise Kenny. I'm a poor person, but next payday, I'll try to send Kenny some money. Maybe only enough for a coffee, but I'll try.
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Buddy of mine had the Video Toaster and I still have the SupraGen Genlock and Digital Creations DCTV broadcast quality devices from yesteryear. He and I did video multi-camera production in the 80s. I still have my Amiga, but also have an Amiga emulator on my PC with virtual copies of several old Amiga HDs that I can boot up.
I thought I was this consummate technologist and then you arrived decades ago with a controller in both hands and 4 sticks, all to my chagrin 😔 😜
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Buddy of mine had the Video Toaster and I still have the SupraGen Genlock and Digital Creations DCTV broadcast quality devices from yesteryear. He and I did video multi-camera production in the 80s. I still have my Amiga, but also have an Amiga emulator on my PC with virtual copies of several old Amiga HDs that I can boot up.
Ahh, the 80's. Back when 1200 baud was fast, a 5 Meg hard drive huge, and the only thing bigger then a girls ass was her hair.
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Old 08-24-2019, 07:08 PM   #90
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I thought I was this consummate technologist and then you arrived decades ago with a controller in both hands and 4 sticks, all to my chagrin �� ��
Hehe, also in my hands are basses, guitars, mandolin, banjo, and an occasional electric violin!
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Ahh, the 80's. Back when 1200 baud was fast, a 5 Meg hard drive huge, and the only thing bigger then a girls ass was her hair.
Blimey! MY first modem was a 150baud job. Only usenet and BBS sites available to the average person.
I remember buying a 10 Mg miniature Winchester drive back in the seventies & being asked (in an awed tone of voice) by the salesman what on earth we could possibly use all that storage for?

And this was all before C/PM got supplanted by PC and MS-Dos.
Unix WAS around even then, though....
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Old 08-25-2019, 12:55 AM   #92
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OP,

Trolling is an incredibly pathetic hobby. Seems like you didn’t know that so I thought I’d help you out.

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Old 08-25-2019, 01:17 AM   #93
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Blimey! MY first modem was a 150baud job. Only usenet and BBS sites available to the average person.
I remember buying a 10 Mg miniature Winchester drive back in the seventies & being asked (in an awed tone of voice) by the salesman what on earth we could possibly use all that storage for?

And this was all before C/PM got supplanted by PC and MS-Dos.
Unix WAS around even then, though....
Damn, I'll bet that drive cost you an arm and a leg.

I always thought that if Gary Kildall had been willing to talk with the suits from IBM, most people would have never heard of Bill Gates. C/PM was so much better than DOS.

In addition to C/PM they had M/PM a multi user version which let you connect workstations together and share files. That was years before Novell, Banyan Vines and the rest. It's a shame the way he died, suspicious circumstances at some biker bar in California.
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Damn, I'll bet that drive cost you an arm and a leg.

I always thought that if Gary Kildall had been willing to talk with the suits from IBM, most people would have never heard of Bill Gates. C/PM was so much better than DOS.

In addition to C/PM they had M/PM a multi user version which let you connect workstations together and share files. That was years before Novell, Banyan Vines and the rest. It's a shame the way he died, suspicious circumstances at some biker bar in California.
I have always been a bit of an OS Maverick. Went froM C/PM to OS9/OSK (microware) and from there to Amigados & so forth. All seemed like they did a way better job than the version of Apple Dos and PC MS-dos going around concurrently. And now I have both OSX and Win10Pro on my machines but am often tempted by Linux. Shame BeOS never really made it.
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Blimey! MY first modem was a 150baud job. Only usenet and BBS sites available to the average person.
I remember buying a 10 Mg miniature Winchester drive back in the seventies & being asked (in an awed tone of voice) by the salesman what on earth we could possibly use all that storage for?

And this was all before C/PM got supplanted by PC and MS-Dos.
Unix WAS around even then, though....
When I bought my first 150baud modem for a C64 the first thing I did was write a War Games auto-dialer that would scan blocks of 1000 phone numbers looking for carrier tone to answer. When it found carrier tone, it logged it to a dot matrix printer. I found various unknown BBSs using it, which was my goal.

The first HD I ever had was a 5MB Seagate ST-506 in a giant external metal box as large as a pair of shoes come in. It had an interface box that docked to the side port of an Amiga 500.
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Thanks for the support and laughs.

Where's my coffee?
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Old 08-25-2019, 11:05 PM   #97
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Where's my coffee?
You're not getting of that easy, first you make that video




All fun aside, your channel is a treasure trove of reaper knowledge. Basically my first stop when I need something specific explained quick and easy. So thanks for all your efforts, highly appreciated.
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Old 08-26-2019, 01:48 AM   #98
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It amazes me how Curtis spits out these words of wisdom (according to him) and everyone just jumps on it (guess me included now!) while he sits backs and has a good laugh at all those getting wound up

Curtis stop being so makulit!!!
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I don't like them because I always have to go watch a Christopher Walken movie afterwards. Then my clients get angry cos I missed the deadline.. It's all Kenny's fault.
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Old 08-26-2019, 09:58 AM   #100
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For the record, cutnpaste didn't get banned because he doesn't like Kenny's videos, he got banned for being the 2nd sockpuppet account of someone else.

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How could you know?

Anyway, that account was banned too and the guy that created those (who emailed the webmaster at some point, identifying himself as "Curtis")

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Old 08-26-2019, 10:31 AM   #101
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I am from and live in the North of England and I actually adore Kenny's accent..it's really easy to understand..good rate, flow and clarity of speech..and I am continually amazed at the quality of his videos...perhaps the OP is lonely and seeking attention...in which case by posting this I am also feeding into the posters need to get a response..but heh ho...
Just to say I have learnt so much from Kennys vids ..which I wouldn't have done otherwise..
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I think, in light of all of this that Kenny should release all of the v6.0 videos he has stashed and are just waiting for the debut of v6.0 before releasing them.

Who's with me?
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Man that's just a smokescreen. That's what they WANT you to do: demand the release of something they're already going to release! And then they'll sell it to us and we'll buy it! But if you really want to get to the good stuff, you've got to demand the videos for Reaper 7!
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Get into the mind of Kenny and see where he's at(and where he's been):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5t8C8IW8g
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How could you know?
He admitted to having 3 accounts on this thread:

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=220706

(Curtis, sickamorz, cutnpaste)

His excuse was something to do with the fact he uses multiple devices to log into Reaper...which most of us do, but don't require multiple accounts for.
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I have not seen any video, but given the average video which generally are very poor.
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I have not seen any video, but given the average video which generally are very poor.
This statement makes absolutely no sense, sorry.

I suspect it might represent the reincarnation of curtis/cutnpaste/whoever .
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I have not seen any video, but given the average video which generally are very poor.
I haven't tried any beer, but in general they taste terrible.
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Maybe Kenny's cutnpaste and he's just doing some market research.
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It takes a lot of work to make these videos and he puts in extra thought compared a lot of other people on YouTube.

Kenny is great.
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Buddy of mine had the Video Toaster and I still have the SupraGen Genlock and Digital Creations DCTV broadcast quality devices from yesteryear. He and I did video multi-camera production in the 80s. I still have my Amiga, but also have an Amiga emulator on my PC with virtual copies of several old Amiga HDs that I can boot up.
I sold all my Amiga kit to a guy from Hungary several years ago. In some ways I wish I hadn`t, as the sequencer Basrs b pipes pro that I used back then still stands head and shoulders above every sequencer I have tried contained in current DAWs. However, my MIDI authoring needs are greatloy reduced these days so I get along OK with Reapers MIDI.
FWIW the landlord of my local (weel a couple of landlords back) was one of the owner/operators of a bunch of really good Amiga peripheral hardware stuff.
A cool guy & he was totally with me on the significance of BPP.
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He admitted to having 3 accounts on this thread:
(Curtis, sickamorz, cutnpaste)
I wasn't aware of the sicka one nor his admission etc.
Just good ol observation.

Maybe he should start a sari and take up selling rice.
For the record, I love da videos. Both Kenny's and Jons. Both have come in handy so many times.
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I don't know how good their tutorials are about compression, but With a CommodeOdor 64 and EA Instant Music you can create impressive music beetz like this, and all the instruments you hear are included unlike some DAWs that make you have to get your own!

See, right here they have better "how to" videos than Kenny's.

Damn! I am not at all being sarcastic when I say I would love to use this.. lol I love chiptune.
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Actually Kenny's videos are the best Reaper videos I've come across as far as content goes. He is the man.

However, his constant upspeak rising inflection on just about every sentence is just too much. Too. Much. lol.

I find it distracting and once you hear it, you can never un-hear it.

If you want to learn Reaper, you need to watch Kenny's videos he's an amazing tutor.
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Damn! I am not at all being sarcastic when I say I would love to use this.. lol I love chiptune.
I had it along with "Studio One" by Third Street Software which was Tim Ryan's company before he founded MidiMan.

I ran it on a Commodore SX-64 briefcase model of the C-64 like this.

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I sold all my Amiga kit to a guy from Hungary several years ago. In some ways I wish I hadn`t, as the sequencer Basrs b pipes pro that I used back then still stands head and shoulders above every sequencer I have tried contained in current DAWs. However, my MIDI authoring needs are greatloy reduced these days so I get along OK with Reapers MIDI.
FWIW the landlord of my local (weel a couple of landlords back) was one of the owner/operators of a bunch of really good Amiga peripheral hardware stuff.
A cool guy & he was totally with me on the significance of BPP.
Like you, midi has gotten less important for me. In the 80s, all my projects began with midi sequencing and real instruments got tacked on after. Now it's the complete opposite and some projects have no midi at all.

I never had Bars & Pipes back then but used Dr. T's KCS Level III midi sequencer. The Amiga emulator I have both in Linux and Windows lets me boot virtual images of my old Amiga HDs and I still will on occasion go export some midi composition out from it and bring it into REAPER to mess with. All my midi projects from the early 80s are still accessible and exportable from the emulator.
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I had it along with "Studio One" by Third Street Software which was Tim Ryan's company before he founded MidiMan.

I ran it on a Commodore SX-64 briefcase model of the C-64 like this.
That's amazing! I'd love to work on something like that. I have done a little bit of chiptune music using a chiptune VSTi, but that's not the same as just doing it right on the actual hardware, IMO, as you need those concrete rules and limitations to make it sound right. Well, or at least the software I was using didn't quite impose all the limitations. If you or anyone has any good suggestions for software to use to emulate NES Chiptune, I'm all ears.

This is all pretty nostalgic for me. My first bit of electronic music creation goes back to my TI-99/4a and, eventually, PC Jr, where I just made boop sounds. Then one day I got an Adlib sound card.. one of the early, cheaper PC Midi cards and started making music with that. I know I used a very very early version of Cakewalk at one point, but i don't remember what I used before that. I know at some point in the chain I worked with Tracker software such as Impulse Tracker (which was better than others that I used). I think that came some time slightly later in my music creation timeline though.
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Mmmmmmmm. C64 Chip tunes!

Maniacs Of Noise FTW!



With delay samples provided by the VIC-2 chip!

Glad I still have a working C64! First computer I ever owned. Well, that my parents purchased, and never saw it again.

That's also where our first color TV hand me down from my grandparents went too.

Before that I was playing Ghosts 'n' Goblins, and Impossible Mission in black and white!


And here we in "modern" times with people worrying about the difference between 192K and 384K sample rates, and the difference between 4K and 8K video!




And, then you got crazy bastards who managed to do stuff like this:




Entirely should not be possible, and makes me feel ashamed any time I make a technological excuse for why I couldn't do something that sounds impressive.

"All you know is wrong! Hip Hop Hip Hop. So take a hit of my bong. Hip Hop Hip Hop. All you know is wrong. Hip Hop Hip Hop. And the proof is this song........."

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Drump: I still do a lot of gaming , but I'd say 75% of it is with newly released 8 bit / 16 bit games. Theres a pretty big market out there still. I find those types of games generally are more fun.
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Lol, I still love how people call me drump!

It's Drum Phil!

Because my name is Phil, and I play drums, on which you can play a drum fill!

Geddit!

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