Old 10-16-2010, 07:36 PM   #1
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v3.72rc3 - October 16 2010
+ MIDI editor: moving CCs/events now updates pre-quantized positions
# Shift+click item selection tweaks/fixes

v3.72rc2 - October 15 2010
+ Made shift+click item selection use range of clicks rather than range of items
+ Shift+click time selection on items now obeys edit cursor moving preference
+ Shift+click item selection no longer unselects other items (hold ctrl in addition for this)
+ VST: better resize notification support

v3.72rc1 - October 11 2010
+ ReaScript: API functions for item/marker setting should now perform better on OSX
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Old 10-16-2010, 09:53 PM   #3
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+ Shift+click time selection on items now obeys edit cursor moving preference
Can anyone explain the changes of this ? I think the shift+ click time selection to left area still changes the right edge time selection.

[img]http://img833.**************/img833/5074/shiftclick.gif[/img]

Maybe I'm not using the right preference settings combination.
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Old 10-17-2010, 07:12 AM   #4
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Can anyone explain the changes of this ? I think the shift+ click time selection to left area still changes the right edge time selection.

[img]http://img833.**************/img833/5074/shiftclick.gif[/img]

Maybe I'm not using the right preference settings combination.
Yeah the behavior changed a bit but it's still not really what I think most would expect based on how selections in general work in most applications (not most DAWs, most applications period...)

I think the idea is to have the time selection swing around a central point like it does in a text editor for example, either that or always extend the current time selection to the where you click. The way it works now where the entire selection changes size and location isn't what I would expect at least.
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Old 10-17-2010, 07:20 AM   #5
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Can anyone explain the changes of this ? I think the shift+ click time selection to left area still changes the right edge time selection.

[img]http://img833.**************/img833/5074/shiftclick.gif[/img]

Maybe I'm not using the right preference settings combination.
I'm late to this party but correct me if I've got the wrong idea..

If you want to keep the right side the same but extend the left side of the time selection you can click anywhere on the left of the time selection with shift held BUT don't click and let go, click and drag a little and it works

This gives us both options then

if I understand you correctly..
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Old 10-17-2010, 09:50 AM   #6
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Another glitch with rc3 and shift+click (the previous one reported seems fixed):

in the attached screencap, I select the first item, then by mistake shift+click on the third item volume line, then shift+click properly the item.

The middle item is not selected and time selection is created. By design?

Weird if so...

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Old 10-17-2010, 10:37 AM   #7
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I select the first item, then by mistake shift+click on the third item volume line, then shift+click properly the item.

The middle item is not selected and time selection is created.
i can confirm this. its OK in rc2
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hey mabian... in your gif I notice that your media items have an interesting semi 3D look and nice border to them... what does that?
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hey mabian... in your gif I notice that your media items have an interesting semi 3D look and nice border to them... what does that?
It's a background image White Tie gave me when we were discussing why items don't get the very same color assigned to them... that was before tint strength was introduced.

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ummm... ok... thanks... I like the look... I am into theme work and think I have done about every png there is at least once... [OMG! ...I'm crazy ] But I don't recall any theme png file that would control that look... can you tell me the file name of it?

are they the item_bg.png and item_bg_sel.png files?
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ummm... ok... thanks... I like the look... I am into theme work and think I have done about every png there is at least once... [OMG! ...I'm crazy ] But I don't recall any theme png file that would control that look... can you tell me the file name of it?
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If you want to keep the right side the same but extend the left side of the time selection you can click anywhere on the left of the time selection with shift held BUT don't click and let go, click and drag a little and it works
That's pretty good, is it new? haha how have I missed that before?

You can't contract the left side instantly of course without starting outside the selection first, but otherwise it's not too shabby.
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mabian thank you... I'll study that ... in the meantime I did find them and have made a few variations...
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That's pretty good, is it new? haha how have I missed that before?

You can't contract the left side instantly of course without starting outside the selection first, but otherwise it's not too shabby.
Think it's been there for a while but I only tried to see if it was possible again today after reading the posts here I think I must use it all the time but subconsciously lol
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I've been using the "shift + click n drag time selection left edge" for sometime now. While I'm glad that it exist, I hope it wouldn't be the reason for not implementing consistent behaviours for expanding time selection. From time to time, I still do the mistake of clicking instead of click n drag, because it works correctly, but only on the right edge.

It's the consistency of the shift+click time selection (right vs left) that throws me off. Clicking right gives a logical result, but clicking left doesn't seem to have a logical behaviour. Making both sides consistent would make it more anticipative for users, and require less "note to self, time selection + click left to expand doesn't work the same as right" which in a long run would save alot of users time and make the learning curve easier too.
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