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Old 02-01-2024, 10:30 PM   #1
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Default The Reaper Mixing Contest - February 2024: You & Me & The Radio

REAPER CONTEST - February 2024
(ONLY REAPER / TUKAN PLUGINS ALLOWED)

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OFFICIAL WEBSITE: reaMIXed.com


MIXING: 1-16 February
VOTING: 21-26 February
RESULTS: 27 February
FEEDBACK: 28-29 February



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This month's track, "You & Me & the Radio", was chosen by last month's winner Svein. It is by Human Radio and is available courtesy of the Cambridge Music Technology site.

Note: In addition to the effects included with Reaper, the Tukan plugins (all current versions from ReaPack as of the 1st of the month) are considered part of the base installation for the contest, so if you're using plugins from this version of tukan, you don't need to include them in your submission. These are now included in mixcheck.

Non Reaper / Tukan JSFX are still allowed, you just need to include them with your submission.

Please remember:

-NO GLUING OF FILES / RENDERING OF EFFECTS
-ONLY NATIVE REAPER FX -or- non-Native JSFX files that you include with your submission.

It's recommended that you take advantage of the normalization settings in the reaper rendering dialog to meet the LUFS and dBFS requirements by:

1. Normalizing to -14 LUFS.
2. If your mix peaks at or under -1 dBFS, you're done!
3. If your mix peaks over -1 dBFS, rerender it, normalizing to -1 dBFS.

MixCheck (https://reamixed.com/mixcheck/) is still beta, it can help you by analyzing your .rpp files before you upload to:
- Make sure your they don't contain disqualifying audio files
- Make sure your they don't contain disqualifying VST/AU plugins
- See what non-native JSFX files you need to include in your zip file
- See what impulse files you need to include in your zip file

NOTE that Mix Check DOES NOT upload your mix, only checks your project file on your local machine.

Once Mix Check has been tested I may not require you to send in the mixed flacs, just the project files, jsfx and impulses. I'd like to hear your thoughts on that.

You can download the multitrack from the website or clicking on this link.

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The mix-check says I have to remove all wave files... why ?
Is this a mistake by the mix-check ?

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Fast work, Wallaby!

Forgot to update the file list. It's updated now, reload the page & try again. If it doesn't work I may need to do something additional to take into account the subdirectories, let me know.
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Old 02-03-2024, 12:03 PM   #4
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Thanks for the quick response.
Now it works perfectly fine !
https://i.ibb.co/dMJx3hC/Bildschirmf...m-20-00-27.png

As usual, today "finished"
tomorrow "oh my god it's shit"

Anyway I let it go and let the fun come at the end
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k where do I send it?
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Old 02-03-2024, 06:39 PM   #6
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Never mind. The website. Duh.
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Catchy tune! Good choice. 👍
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Catchy tune! Good choice. 👍
Agree!

I would love to get the lyrics to understand the message! Would anyone know where I could get it?


Thanks in advanced!
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Old 02-08-2024, 01:02 PM   #10
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I didn't find any lyrics with a quick search, but you would think our AI overlords would be able to handle this by now.

Here's Microsoft's transcription:
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Transcript
00:00:22 Speaker 1
I gave my love a red red rose and it was.
00:00:26 Speaker 1
Tick tock, tick tock.
00:00:30 Speaker 1
I thought we'd take a stroll around the block, but that wasn't fast enough. And you said I can't get closer real emotion till I feel myself a body emotion. So let's get this caliente on the road and see how hard it is to stop.
00:00:52 Speaker 1
When now we're rolling down the wind, you and me and the radio.
00:01:00 Speaker 1
Blowing down the mountain and there's no way we're going slow.
00:01:07 Speaker 1
We're a vector in space for perfectionist stereo.
00:01:14 Speaker 1
Anywhere we go.
00:01:17 Speaker 1
It's you and me and the radio.
00:01:32 Speaker 1
La La La La la.
00:01:35 Speaker 1
The time slows when you get close to the horizon. You're just riding.
00:01:42 Speaker 1
And life is.
00:01:43 Speaker 1
Sweet and dangerous, but don't be frightened.
00:01:50 Speaker 1
And you smile and your hair is fired and screaming down between the lines.
00:01:58 Speaker 1
And when the song hits hard with the drums and guitars, the world explodes to the Great Divine. Now we're rolling down the road, you and me and the radio.
00:02:14 Speaker 1
Bowing down the mountain now, there's no way we're going slow.
00:02:21 Speaker 1
We're a vector in space for perfection and stereo.
00:02:28 Speaker 1
Anywhere we go, it's you and me and the radio.
00:02:53 Speaker 1
I gave my love a red red rose and it was.
00:02:57 Speaker 1
Tock, tick tock.
00:03:00 Speaker 1
She grinned in me with those big green eyes and said.
00:03:06 Speaker 1
Let's rock now. We're rolling down the road, you and me and the radio.
00:03:15 Speaker 1
Now we're down the mountain now. There's no way we're going slow.
00:03:22 Speaker 1
Were affected here in space for perfection and stereo.
00:03:30 Speaker 1
Well, another wind, you and me and the radio.
00:03:40 Speaker 1
You and me, you and me. The radio, the radio.
I think the timestamps take some of the romance out of it
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I didn't find any lyrics with a quick search, but you would think our AI overlords would be able to handle this by now.

Here's Microsoft's transcription:


I think the timestamps take some of the romance out of it
Great!
Really thnx Daryl!
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Hi.
What is the tempo of the song?

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What is the tempo of the song?

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Hi ArmTazar, I think it is 124 bpm.

I 've tried this method of Kenny to find out: https://www.reaper.fm/videos.php#Z9k09zgbE6g
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Hi,
I have a question for understanding:
is it regarded as destructive editing (and therefor not allowed here) if I would do the following:
- copy some appropriate parts of the Guitar 1 and Guitar 2 tracks
- to a new track
- and shift these small parts (or snippets) in time to the muted parts of the original Guitar 1 and Guitar 2 track
- in order to get rid off the imho annoying muted guitar parts

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I have a question for understanding:
is it regarded as destructive editing (and therefor not allowed here) if I would do the following:
- copy some appropriate parts of the Guitar 1 and Guitar 2 tracks
- to a new track
- and shift these small parts (or snippets) in time to the muted parts of the original Guitar 1 and Guitar 2 track
- in order to get rid off the imho annoying muted guitar parts

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I think this is allowed, I do this all the time.
The audio item can be trimmed to a small part and placed where ever you like as long no slicing or clueing.
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Does the vocal performance annoy anyone else?

The singer doesn't pronounce the first vowel in "perfection" at all. It comes out as "p-FECTion", and the FECT sounds kinda rough and bad.

It's definitely not the worst vocal I've ever tried to mix (I've tried to mix my own, after all), but it's still not awesome. A few more takes, maybe with a producer paying attention to the little details, and this tune would have improved dramatically.
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Hi ArmTazar, I think it is 124 bpm.

I 've tried this method of Kenny to find out: https://www.reaper.fm/videos.php#Z9k09zgbE6g
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I'm officially back this month! Works been crushing my free time but I was able to get a mix done and uploaded. Excited to hear everyones take!
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Does the vocal performance annoy anyone else?

The singer doesn't pronounce the first vowel in "perfection" at all. It comes out as "p-FECTion", and the FECT sounds kinda rough and bad.

It's definitely not the worst vocal I've ever tried to mix (I've tried to mix my own, after all), but it's still not awesome. A few more takes, maybe with a producer paying attention to the little details, and this tune would have improved dramatically.
I’m pretty sure this is a live tracking, so no overdubs, etc. I think it may be misattributed to Cambridge MT, but is actually a TELEFUNKEN Live From The Lab performance.
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The original source I think is telefunken, but cambridge has it on their site as well.
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I’m pretty sure this is a live tracking, so no overdubs, etc. I think it may be misattributed to Cambridge MT, but is actually a TELEFUNKEN Live From The Lab performance.
That makes sense. If this is a live-tracked performance, then it was very well done and well performed.

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Hi ArmTazar, I think it is 124 bpm.

I 've tried this method of Kenny to find out: https://www.reaper.fm/videos.php#Z9k09zgbE6g
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Kenny has several videos about how to find the tempo of a song and I think this is the best one.
Straightforward and clear.
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Hi all - I'm gonna start trying to join in on these over the next couple of months. I'm a beginner but it'll be fun and good practise.

Is there any hard and fast rules about how far you can change certain things?

Can I slip edit to improve timing if need be?

Can I apply effects that significantly alter the character of particular parts?
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Hi all - I'm gonna start trying to join in on these over the next couple of months. I'm a beginner but it'll be fun and good practise.

Is there any hard and fast rules about how far you can change certain things?

Can I slip edit to improve timing if need be?

Can I apply effects that significantly alter the character of particular parts?

Yes yes you can do all effects and moving around the audio items.
Just not glue together or slice into parts.
Copy a part and trim and move and put thousand effects on it !
At the end only effects from Reaper can be in, no Waves plugins or other stuff.
Still almost 4 days left to send in the file ! Try !
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Great stuff, glad to hear it 😃 I'm looking forward to trying.
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Voting is open: https://reamixed.com/vote

If you're having trouble voting in Safari, please try emptying your cache. Someone reported this was an issue, not sure if it's related to a particular version of Safari.
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Voting is open: https://reamixed.com/vote

If you're having trouble voting in Safari, please try emptying your cache. Someone reported this was an issue, not sure if it's related to a particular version of Safari.
Did I win yet?

Seriously though, I have a question. The contest rules said not to vote for yourself but I don't see where it says which one is mine. I THINK I know which one it is based on the sound but it's possible someone else could have done one that sounds similar.
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When you go to the voting page, it asks you to identify if you participated this month. Once you select yourself, the voting option for your mix disappears.
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When you go to the voting page, it asks you to identify if you participated this month. Once you select yourself, the voting option for your mix disappears.
Ah, ok... thanks...
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I think this is allowed, I do this all the time.
The audio item can be trimmed to a small part and placed where ever you like as long no slicing or clueing.
Hi Wallaby, thanks for your answer. That was my understanding as well. There was something wrong with my project file and firstly I didn't know why. I had to think through my workday. But in the evening the penny has dropped: I renamed the original audio file names, which of course causes trouble. While renaming I must probably had just my brain switched off ...
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Hi Wallaby, thanks for your answer. That was my understanding as well. There was something wrong with my project file and firstly I didn't know why. I had to think through my workday. But in the evening the penny has dropped: I renamed the original audio file names, which of course causes trouble. While renaming I must probably had just my brain switched off ...
Oh ! Glad you found out.
This will end up in a salad.
This could be included in the contest rules next to "not slice, not glue" don't rename the wave files.
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Oh ! Glad you found out.
This will end up in a salad.
This could be included in the contest rules next to "not slice, not glue" don't rename the wave files.
I'm curious. What's the reason for renaming the audio files in the first place?
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I'm curious. What's the reason for renaming the audio files in the first place?
I can only guess, it's personal workflow routine, one prefers VOX 1, VOX 2 over Leadvocals and background vocals...?
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I can only guess, it's personal workflow routine, one prefers VOX 1, VOX 2 over Leadvocals and background vocals...?
I understand why one prefers certain TRACK naming conventions, but why the audio files themselves?
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I understand why one prefers certain TRACK naming conventions, but why the audio files themselves?
Hi zappazapper,
because the tracks are named automatically according to the file names, when you import the files via drag and drop into Reaper.
When you have short an meaningful names like
OH L
OH R
Snare top
Tamb
then you can see these names in the mixer panel. And all is fine.

I love to have things correctly named. When the file names e.g. of all the drums tracks have names like
DRUMS -OH L AR_01
DRUMS -OH R AR_01
DRUMS -Snare Bottom M80_01
DRUMS - Snare Top M80_01
then you have too much information in the file name and the names are too long.
The file names appear automatically as track names in Reaper when you import the files via drag and drop. As well as in the track panel as in the mixer panel. And the available space for track names in the mixer panel is rellay restricted. So, short and meaningful names are key.
That's why renaming the source files makes sense to me.

But for the Reaper Mix contest it is really inevitable that the files names remain unchanged. And this for a good reason.
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Hi zappazapper,
because the tracks are named automatically according to the file names, when you import the files via drag and drop into Reaper.
When you have short an meaningful names like
OH L
OH R
Snare top
Tamb
then you can see these names in the mixer panel. And all is fine.

I love to have things correctly named. When the file names e.g. of all the drums tracks have names like
DRUMS -OH L AR_01
DRUMS -OH R AR_01
DRUMS -Snare Bottom M80_01
DRUMS - Snare Top M80_01
then you have too much information in the file name and the names are too long.
The file names appear automatically as track names in Reaper when you import the files via drag and drop. As well as in the track panel as in the mixer panel. And the available space for track names in the mixer panel is rellay restricted. So, short and meaningful names are key.
That's why renaming the source files makes sense to me.

But for the Reaper Mix contest it is really inevitable that the files names remain unchanged. And this for a good reason.
Fair enough. Everyone has their workflow. I'll point out, however, that you admit that your reason for renaming the files is so the TRACKS are named properly upon importing them. So it's really the track names you're concerned with, not the files themselves. Renaming the tracks and not the files achieves the exact same thing.
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Fair enough. Everyone has their workflow. I'll point out, however, that you admit that your reason for renaming the files is so the TRACKS are named properly upon importing them. So it's really the track names you're concerned with, not the files themselves. Renaming the tracks and not the files achieves the exact same thing.
You're correct. And that's the point where I had switched off my mind. I'm quite organised, so I normally give the files short and meaninful names and I'm done. Changing names directly at the source prevents troubles. That's my slogan. And so I did it that way.
But for the Reaper Remix contest this approach is just the wrong way. User error. The problem very often sits in front of the screen.
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I have a question for all the participants of the contest:

Would it be useful to be able to submit notes along with our mixes to be able to explain the reasoning behind the choices we made?

It's funny because I feel like most of the criticisms of my mix are all things that I did on purpose, all the things that I like about the mix. Of course, I respect the opinions of others and accept the results, but I worry that the other participants thought that the amount of compression and distortion in my mix was unintentional.

Would it have changed anybody's criticisms to know that I did these things on purpose? I think that if we could submit notes with our mixes, it would give us a chance to have a different level of discussion, not just on the technical side of things, but on the interpretive side of things. Does everyone else's mix sound EXACTLY as they intended? Because mine does. And I would love to have a discussion about those differences in interpretation, as audio production is at least as much about interpretation as it is about technical matters.
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Would it have changed anybody's criticisms to know that I did these things on purpose?
I don't think so. At least for me.

And congrats to Javi, by the way. Despite my bad judgment 😜
In fact, I didn't expect mine to be that high.
(My fav was Broken Glass Audio).
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