v5.65pre6 - October 30 2017

[Edgemeal]

v5.65pre6 - October 30 2017
+ Arrange: show tooltip when editing time/loop selection
+ Envelopes: option to trim content behind automation items when editing also trims when writing automation
+ Envelopes: trim overlapping automation items when actions to write current value to envelope create a new automation item [p=1904138]
+ Preferences: remove UI lazy updates option, always updatewindow on Windows
+ Undo: improve history context menu with ability to look at differences
+ macOS: disable word-wrap in various text windows
# Envelopes: copy automation items when applying VCAs to tracks [p=1904138]
# FX: in Add FX dialog, optionally display plugins that have no category and/or developer defined

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[EvilDragon]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

v5.65pre6 - October 30 2017
+ Arrange: show tooltip when editing time/loop selection

THANKS!!! This is so useful.

Can you please add the same when editing region edges and moving markers? If items can have this tooltip, why not regions and markers?


Hell, why not edit cursor, even? Sometimes you wanna position it REALLY accurately, tooltip would definitely help. Thoughts?



EDIT: This is interesting. When drawing in an item, tooltip lists, in this order: Length, Start, End. For time selection, it is: Start, End, Length.

Why not have the same order in both (and by that I mean the more logical one: Start, End, Length)?

[Robert Randolph]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

# FX: in Add FX dialog, optionally display plugins that have no category and/or developer defined

You guys are the best. Thanks!

[mlprod]

While there is some UI update work being done. Would it be possible to get rid of the play cursor flickering somehow? When zoomed in it's really laggy/stuttering.

[Reno.thestraws]

+ Envelopes: option to trim content behind automation items when editing also trims when writing automation

Thanks!



Now we just need something to connect segment end and start to avoid jump between item...





Here's the correction by adding manually a point

[fundorin]

in Add FX dialog, optionally display plugins that have no category and/or developer defined

I don't see this option, but there's another one, that's new - "Show VST Folders":

[schwa]

Originally Posted by fundorin

I don't see this option

Right click the word "categories" or "developers" in the actual left pane, as if you were going to add a new category or developer.

[EvilDragon]

Right-click the Categories or Developers entry in the left pane.

[musicbynumbers]

Agreed and thanks Devs! Super useful!

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

THANKS!!! This is so useful.

Can you please add the same when editing region edges and moving markers? If items can have this tooltip, why not regions and markers?


Hell, why not edit cursor, even? Sometimes you wanna position it REALLY accurately, tooltip would definitely help. Thoughts?



EDIT: This is interesting. When drawing in an item, tooltip lists, in this order: Length, Start, End. For time selection, it is: Start, End, Length.

Why not have the same order in both (and by that I mean the more logical one: Start, End, Length)?

[RobU]

+ Arrange: show tooltip when editing time/loop selection
# FX: in Add FX dialog, optionally display plugins that have no category and/or developer defined

Both of these are great, thank you!

I commented on an earlier pre about the slowness in scrolling the developer list if you have a lot of devs (I have a few...).

Sorry for the quality, I shrank it a little so as not to take up to much screen space



Full size version here - https://stash.reaper.fm/32036/develo...t_slowness.gif

It would be much appreciated if this list could be scrolled with the mousewheel, if at all possible.

Cheers

[EvilDragon]

Scrolling speed is I think something at the OS level that might not be changeable (not 100% sure). I remember some other applications having the same issue (and not being able to mousewheel through it)...

Having a multi-column dropdown instead of one big scrolling list would be better, for sure. And/or mousewheelable through, yes.

[Edgemeal]

Or maybe just break long menus into sub menus based on items first chars,

Developers >
A-F >
G-L >
M-R >
S-Z >

[fundorin]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

Or maybe just break long menus into sub menus based on items first chars,

Developers >
A-F >
G-L >
M-R >
S-Z >

I can't drag auto-created developer folders into newly created folder names, as you suggested.

I also wonder, how would those scroll menus act for touchscreen interface?
No scroll? Only pressing an arrow button at the bottom of the list would work?

P.S. schwa, ED, thanks for telling me about a proper way of add unlisted plugins.

[Edgemeal]

Originally Posted by fundorin

I can't drag auto-created developer folders into newly created folder names, ass you suggested.

I meant that as something the devs could do.

[Xenakios]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

v5.65pre6 - October 30 2017

+ Undo: improve history context menu with ability to look at differences
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Always neat to see into the inner workings of Reaper...

[drummerboy]

If you guys still have the region edge edit code open:

I‘m using a magic mouse. It‘s extremely hard to move the edge of a region
because of the scroll functionality of the mouse. As soon as I a drag the edge
a bit, Reaper will change into scroll mode. This doesn‘t happen with item edges,
so maybe there‘s an easy way around this?

Best,
Frank

[Robert Randolph]

This is not so much a bug, but more of a nitpick.

When dragging things to a category there's 2 things that could be improved:

1. The target category could be highlighted so you know where you're about to drop to
2. The current viewed category shouldn't change. Currently when you drop something it switches to that category, which ends up causing a lot of extra clicking while organizing.

This is in macOS.

[EvilDragon]

Originally Posted by Robert Randolph

[*]The current viewed category shouldn't change. Currently when you drop something it switches to that category, which ends up causing a lot of extra clicking while organizing.

Yep! This is quite annoying when organizing stuff. Please, don't change to the destination folder after dropping stuff into it!


(Funny you have a category named "u-he"... yep, their stuff is in a category all of their own! )

[Robert Randolph]

Also, should JS not be showing up with 'No Category' and 'No Developer'?

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by Robert Randolph

Also, should JS not be showing up with 'No Category' and 'No Developer'?

Optionally.

[Mavriq]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Yep! This is quite annoying when organizing stuff. Please, don't change to the destination folder after dropping stuff into it!

+1

Makes organizing difficult.

[srdmusic]

I've been experiencing some sporadic freezing in Reaper. Sometimes it comes back after a couple of minutes and sometimes it does not.

I've included a forced crash dump file while reaper was stuck and never came back.

LINK: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zbbv3se76u...84%29.zip?dl=0
Procedure steps before crash:

1: Opened a blank session at startup.
2: Closed the blank session and loaded my large writing template.
3: Loaded one Zebra HZ instrument.
4. Reaper was not responding to my keyboard so I decided to check the midi driver in reaper's preferences.
5. I hit the command to open Reapers preference window and it froze before opening the window.

Versions:

Reaper Pre Release 5.65 pre6
Windows 10 1703 build
Zebra HZ lastest version

[sonicowl]

Originally Posted by Robert Randolph

[*]The current viewed category shouldn't change. Currently when you drop something it switches to that category, which ends up causing a lot of extra clicking while organizing.

Yes, this switching is counterproductive. Would be better if it would stay on previous view.

[bFooz]

An idea/UI fix - when moving an envelope segment or a point, normal or fine speed, tooltip is fixed in one place on an Y axis for a point, on both axles for a segment.

Agument for a change in current behaviour: now a user needs to follow mouse and catch those tiny font numerical values as they move and that is pretty difficult on its own.

Current behaviour:

[EvilDragon]

Indeed, it'd be much better if tooltip wouldn't follow the mouse pointer.

[Mercado_Negro]

It would be so nice if we could select several automation items across tracks or envelope lanes and copy/paste them all.

Please!

[EvilDragon]

Well... you can Ctrl+drag&drop copy them that way already, which is pretty spiffy.

[Iv_Karev]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

v5.65pre6 - October 30 2017
+ Envelopes: option to trim content behind automation items when editing also trims when writing automation
+ Envelopes: trim overlapping automation items when actions to write current value to envelope create a new automation item [p=1904138]
# Envelopes: copy automation items when applying VCAs to tracks [p=1904138]

Wow! Thanks a bunch!

[Mercado_Negro]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Well... you can Ctrl+drag&drop copy them that way already, which is pretty spiffy.

Really? I mean, you EvilDragon saying that? C'mon man you that's not spiffy at all, that's just a way to create a copy of something but ctrl+c and ctrl+v exist for a reason, let's use it please

[musicbynumbers]

Regarding the new Solo change..

I could have sworn Solo now allowed you to solo a child track in a folder even if it's parent was muted?

It doesn't seem to work now.

It's always been something I would love to see changed as it doesn't make any sense to me for the parent to not let the solo through if you solo one of it's childs.

I can see why it can be hand if solo in place is on but for normal solos, could we make it so a child solo overides the parent's mute state temporarily?

If not, we have to unmute the parent each time.

Thanks.

[Justin]

Originally Posted by musicbynumbers

Regarding the new Solo change..

I could have sworn Solo now allowed you to solo a child track in a folder even if it's parent was muted?

It doesn't seem to work now.

It's always been something I would love to see changed as it doesn't make any sense to me for the parent to not let the solo through if you solo one of it's childs.

I can see why it can be hand if solo in place is on but for normal solos, could we make it so a child solo overides the parent's mute state temporarily?

If not, we have to unmute the parent each time.

Thanks.

Solo overrides mute on the same track, but not a parent track mute. A muted non-soloed track can't produce output (even if child tracks or tracks that send to the track are soloed).

You can solo a child track in a muted folder, which means that any sends the child track sends will send, but the muted folder will still be muted. This is the same behavior as 5.50.

[musicbynumbers]

Thanks for confirming that Justin.

I guess it's useful then to allow the user to "control" what is heard and gives a way to hear just say, sends without the parent etc so all in all, useful. All good

Originally Posted by Justin

Solo overrides mute on the same track, but not a parent track mute. A muted non-soloed track can't produce output (even if child tracks or tracks that send to the track are soloed).

You can solo a child track in a muted folder, which means that any sends the child track sends will send, but the muted folder will still be muted. This is the same behavior as 5.50.

[musicbynumbers]

Small bug I'm hoping that could be fixed easily and that others probably get too.

If you have just played a file in media explorer and have autoplay on.

Going to a different program and then back to reaper always triggers media explorer to start playing again.

Maybe because I have reaper set to offline audio when not focused but great if this could be fixed.

If not this set of pres, I'll put a bug report in, just thought I'd mention it.

[musicbynumbers]

When right clicking on the TCP FX button..

Anyway to get the current FX on that track to show at the top again and not at the bottom.

This is my main method of getting to the FX (in the arrange page) and would be great to have the current FX be at the top (where the mouse is) rather than the bottom.

Or did I miss the option for this?

[EvilDragon]

They were never on the top... always on the bottom after the folders, recent, etc. and there was never an option for their location.


I agree they should be on the top!