MIDI touch-replace broken (FIXED)

_Stevie_ · 04-26-2019, 06:29 PM

There seems to be a problem with MIDI touch-replace. It behaves like "overdub mode". MIDI latch-replace however, seems to work fine:

MIDI touch-replace

MIDI latch-replace

Justin · 04-28-2019, 06:29 AM

I think touch-replace refers to the note recording rather than CC recording, yeah. There's no concept of touch for CCs, so maybe that would have to be latch-replace? Or touch with a timeout?

Klangfarben · 04-28-2019, 06:37 AM

Hi Justin, I think the confusion lies in that touch is not doing the same thing as it does for regular automation. I think it should function the same way whether for track automation or midi - which is it should replace the previous events while touched. Doing it any other way is I think by definition confusing as it's not conforming to standard practice.

Perhaps I'm missing something here (I usually am...) but I can't see a scenario where you would ever want to keep two sets of CC data in the same lane. Nothing good would ever come from that.

_Stevie_ · 04-28-2019, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

I think touch-replace refers to the note recording rather than CC recording, yeah. There's no concept of touch for CCs, so maybe that would have to be latch-replace? Or touch with a timeout?

Touch with a timeout would be perfect! Like, when no new CC data is received, stop replacing and keep the "old" CC.

Justin · 04-28-2019, 07:29 AM

The current behavior is actually to replace all of the CC data when a note is down. Which may or may not be desired, hmph. And in latch mode it's also somewhat different than probably-expected: if you record any CC it overwrites all CCs on that channel until stopping. I imagine each CC type should latch/touch separately... but of course changing this could be messy.

_Stevie_ · 04-28-2019, 07:34 AM

Oh, hmm, I see the dilemma...

Would two additional latch and touch modes for "CC only" be a solution?

Justin · 04-28-2019, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

Oh, hmm, I see the dilemma...

Would two additional latch and touch modes for "CC only" be a solution?

Or maybe the current behavior isn't enjoyed by anybody and it should be fixed?

_Stevie_ · 04-28-2019, 07:38 AM

Well, if that's an option, I'm all for it

I really liked that timer idea, if that's feasible.

EvilDragon · 04-28-2019, 10:56 AM

I agree that we should have a preference for touch-replace timer for CCs. The way it works now is really not useful.

Klangfarben · 04-28-2019, 11:13 AM

Agreed, the current behavior is not something I would ever use.

Justin · 04-28-2019, 05:47 PM

Upgrades coming in the next +dev cycle!

_Stevie_ · 04-28-2019, 10:21 PM

Amazing, thanks so much Justin!

_Stevie_ · 05-02-2019, 08:20 AM

Thanks Justin, works mighty fine!

_Stevie_ · 05-14-2019, 03:11 AM

Justin, there's one thing that I noticed while using this in a production:
would it be possible to differentiate between notes and CCs while recording,
so that notes don't get erased when only recording CCs?