Old 11-07-2017, 10:38 AM   #1
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v5.62 - November 7 2017
  • + Automation items: duplicate automation items on send envelopes when duplicating tracks [t=197766]
  • + Arrange: show tooltip when editing markers/regions/loop/time selections
  • + Config import: improve import behavior on macOS
  • + Control surfaces: pass through Faderport footswitch commands to action bindings as a note-on
  • + FX browser: allow adding FX to master track when opened via action [t=192812]
  • + Localization: fix validation of strings ending in %%
  • + Localization: improve note/key localization [p=1897006]
  • + Localization: localize articulations/ornaments
  • + Localization: localize jsfx UI
  • + Localization: various fixes [p=1898728] [p=1899438]
  • + Media items: group items correctly after moving within time selection [p=1900966]
  • + Media explorer: fix missing context menu items [t=197784]
  • + Notation editor: improve stem drawing
  • + Notation editor: suppport themeable colors
  • + Preferences: remove UI lazy updates option, always use UpdateWindow on Windows
  • + ReaSurround: fix automation behaviors for LFE and speaker output levels [t=197727]
  • + Routing window: fix accessibility support (regression in 5.61)
  • + Solo: 5.6/5.61 behavior fix [p=1903931]
  • + Startup: remember size of project selection window
  • + Startup: prevent new windows from being initialized with offscreen titlebars
  • + Undo: improve undo history context menu with ability to look at .RPP differences
  • + VST3: make Console 1 obey solo-in-place preference [t=197633]
  • + Video: fix potential memory errors with certain video processors
  • + macOS: check for GL shader support when opening video window rather than from video thread
  • + macOS: disable word-wrap in various text windows
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:22 PM   #2
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+ Arrange: show tooltip when editing markers/regions/loop/time selections
Perhaps the disappearing tooltip bug can be fixed before v5.62 is officially released? A tooltip that disappears as soon as the user pauses to check the info inside the tooltip, is not very useful. (BTW, the tooltip only disappears if the mouse cursor is in the Ruler area. If the cursor is in the Arrange area, the tooltip remains in place.)
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:46 PM   #3
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Perhaps the disappearing tooltip bug can be fixed before v5.62 is officially released? A tooltip that disappears as soon as the user pauses to check the info inside the tooltip, is not very useful. (BTW, the tooltip only disappears if the mouse cursor is in the Ruler area. If the cursor is in the Arrange area, the tooltip remains in place.)
Updating the builds with that fixed (and also another subtle addition which is omitted from the changelog, ha ha), thanks
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Old 11-07-2017, 02:55 PM   #4
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I just had a sudden crash while editing some MIDI. I don't know if it is related to plugins but it's was quite unusual.

Code:
Process:               REAPER [66386]
Path:                  /Applications/REAPER64.app/Contents/MacOS/REAPER
Identifier:            com.cockos.reaper
Version:               5.62.0 (5.62.0)
Code Type:             X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:        ??? [1]
Responsible:           REAPER [66386]
User ID:               501

Date/Time:             2017-11-07 16:49:41.748 -0500
OS Version:            Mac OS X 10.12.6 (16G29)
Report Version:        12
Anonymous UUID:        4D8B515F-BC40-34F9-BE00-0447E883E7CA

Sleep/Wake UUID:       A6FBAF09-CDC2-4655-A4EF-D10F7A661D02

Time Awake Since Boot: 590000 seconds
Time Since Wake:       4000 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread:        0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:        EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes:       KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000700f0000e020
Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Signal:    Segmentation fault: 11
Termination Reason:    Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
Terminating Process:   exc handler [0]

Application Specific Information:
objc_msgSend() selector name: isKindOfClass:


Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libobjc.A.dylib               	0x00007fffdd61a05d objc_msgSend + 29
1   com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100518faa DestroyWindow(HWND__*) + 106
2   reaper_midi.dylib             	0x000000010d53353f MIDIFile_Context::EndTrackSelEdit(bool) + 191
3   reaper_midi.dylib             	0x000000010d5328b9 MIDIFile_Context::TrackSelProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 18729
4   reaper_midi.dylib             	0x000000010d52df5f _TrackSelProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 111
5   com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001004f889c SwellDialogDefaultWindowProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 364
6   com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001006db8ea CoolSBWndProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 250
7   com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001004f3b85 -[REAPERSwell_hwnd setFrame:] + 165
8   com.cockos.reaper             	0x000000010050edfb SetWindowPos(HWND__*, HWND__*, int, int, int, int, int) + 1403
9   reaper_midi.dylib             	0x000000010d4874a7 MIDIFile_Context::editDlgProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 3063
10  reaper_midi.dylib             	0x000000010d486896 _dlgProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 134
11  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001004f889c SwellDialogDefaultWindowProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 364
12  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001004f55ad -[REAPERSwell_hwnd onSwellMessage:p1:p2:] + 829
13  com.cockos.reaper             	0x000000010051571a SendMessage(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 90
14  reaper_midi.dylib             	0x000000010d4a7b77 MIDIFile_Context::AlignWndControls(HWND__*) + 1639
15  reaper_midi.dylib             	0x000000010d4946fb MIDIFile_Context::editDlgProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 56907
16  reaper_midi.dylib             	0x000000010d486896 _dlgProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 134
17  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001004f410d -[REAPERSwell_hwnd initChild:Parent:dlgProc:Param:] + 1389
18  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001004f5a2f -[REAPERSwell_modelesswindow initModeless:Parent:dlgProc:Param:outputHwnd:forceStyles:] + 687
19  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001004f7e48 SWELL_CreateDialog(SWELL_DialogResourceIndex*, char const*, HWND__*, long (*)(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long), long) + 680
20  reaper_midi.dylib             	0x000000010d451190 __localizeDialog(void*, char const*, HWND__*, long (*)(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long), long, int) + 144
21  reaper_midi.dylib             	0x000000010d514d4e displayEditDialog(HWND__*, MIDIFile_Context*) + 270
22  reaper_midi.dylib             	0x000000010d46c3c1 PCM_source_midifile::Extended(int, void*, void*, void*) + 18321
23  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001000b406f OpenMIDIEditor(WDL_PtrList<PCM_source>*) + 255
24  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001000872ba OpenMIDIEditorEx(WDL_PtrList<PCM_source>*, int, int) + 186
25  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001000741f2 Main_OnCommandEx2(int, int, ReaProject*) + 35138
26  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001000cfeaf Main_OnCommandEx(int, int, ReaProject*) + 31
27  com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100668630 OnOpenReverseItemCommand(ReaProject*, int) + 352
28  com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100073f75 Main_OnCommandEx2(int, int, ReaProject*) + 34501
29  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001000cfeaf Main_OnCommandEx(int, int, ReaProject*) + 31
30  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001001ac0f5 TrackList_OnDoubleClick(int, int) + 4405
31  com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100536489 TrackListWindowProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 20969
32  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001006db8ea CoolSBWndProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 250
33  reaper_sws_extension.dylib    	0x000000011406aa32 ZoomWndProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 258
34  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001004f9c08 SWELL_SendMouseMessage(NSView*, int, NSEvent*) + 600
35  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001004f2c76 -[REAPERSwell_hwnd mouseDown:] + 214
36  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fffc6b7924f -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _handleMouseDownEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 6341
37  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fffc6b75a6c -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _reallySendEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 1942
38  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fffc6b74f0a -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) sendEvent:] + 541
39  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fffc69f9681 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) sendEvent:] + 1145
40  com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100361a15 -[REAPERapp sendEvent:] + 789
41  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fffc6274427 -[NSApplication run] + 1002
42  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fffc623ee0e NSApplicationMain + 1237
43  com.cockos.reaper             	0x000000010001196c main + 28
44  com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100011934 start + 52

Thread 1:: com.apple.NSEventThread
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fffde03534a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fffde034797 mach_msg + 55
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fffc8787434 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 212
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fffc87868c1 __CFRunLoopRun + 1361
4   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fffc8786114 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 420
5   com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fffc63ccf02 _NSEventThread + 205
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fffde12793b _pthread_body + 180
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fffde127887 _pthread_start + 286
8   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fffde12708d thread_start + 13
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Old 11-08-2017, 01:54 AM   #5
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[*]+ Startup: remember size of project selection window
What's the project selection window? The "Open project"-dialog?
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Great update.
One wish, project selection window, is it possible to disable (by choice?) project location, i dont need to see the search way, just makes it cluttered.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:31 AM   #7
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Great update.
One wish, project selection window, is it possible to disable (by choice?) project location, i dont need to see the search way, just makes it cluttered.
You mean Project List? That's a SWS feature, so nothing Cockos has to do with.

At any rate, you can right-click the header to disable the Path column.
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:41 AM   #8
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Default Automation ITEM + Region issue

Muted AIs are UNMUTED when regions are copied
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:59 AM   #9
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Idea/UX Fix - Single left click on a region could move the edit cursor to the beginning of that region, like it does with markers.

Currently, left click on a region does nothing.
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:10 AM   #10
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Great update.
One wish, project selection window, is it possible to disable (by choice?) project location, i dont need to see the search way, just makes it cluttered.
Hell yeah!
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:15 AM   #11
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What's the project selection window? The "Open project"-dialog?
It's the startup Prompt option





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One wish, project selection window, is it possible to disable (by choice?) project location, i dont need to see the search way, just makes it cluttered.
I agree
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:37 AM   #12
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...except if you have two projects with the same name in different paths, I suppose?
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It's the startup Prompt option







I agree
Exactly!
It´s kind of weird, last active project doesn't have it, but the rest...
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that window is fuggin ugly compared to
https://steinberg.help/cubase_pro_ar...erg_hub_r.html
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Old 11-08-2017, 02:25 PM   #15
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that window is fuggin ugly compared to
https://steinberg.help/cubase_pro_ar...erg_hub_r.html
It's definitely not pretty but it seems on par with the rest of the REAPER GUI.

I would love to see a little search box on that window so it's easier to find slightly older sessions.

The text is so static that it's not easy to read all the project names well.

I also remember and issue when trying to expand the window horizontally to the right. Eventually the text just cuts off when you have especially long names/paths for projects.
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:30 PM   #16
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Project selection window should have button to open project.

In my way of working recent project list is not helpful, because I move projects from folder to folder, and rename folders. So usually most recent projects on the list are pointing wrongly.

Every time I want to open project in renamed folder, first I have to pick new project to pass by project selection window. Then I can open project directly, but before that it asks me to discart or save the new empty project....

Now I disabled project selection window, so Reaper opens with new empty project. Still it asks me to save before opening the one I want....

I wish there was a OPEN button, which would open projects from disk directly, without needing to open new empty project first.
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I wish there was a OPEN button, which would open projects from disk directly, without needing to open new empty project first.
+1 for this.
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Still it asks me to save before opening the one I want....
Do you have "Preferences->Project->[ ] Prompt to save on new project" enabled? Disable.
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Old 11-09-2017, 04:01 AM   #19
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So, literally, no-one gives a crap that THIS is happening?

Are people aware of what is even happening in the gif? Look at the muted AIs, then look how they all become UNMUTED when the region is copied. That can't be right.

I've not seen this mentioned before and I don't see any fixes in the .65 pre-releases.

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Mentioned in pre 10, no?
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Mentioned in pre 10, no?
Yes, it was.
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Do you have "Preferences->Project->[ ] Prompt to save on new project" enabled? Disable.
Yea, it is disabled here. If I enable it, I get full "Save" browser window. But if disabled, I get small popup window "Reaper Query: Save unsaved project before closing? Yes No Cancel".

So in any case I have to click a button to close new project before opening new one. Which is horrible.... Because it takes cca 0.1s ....

Anyhow, OPEN button would be really welcome.
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that window is fuggin ugly compared to
https://steinberg.help/cubase_pro_ar...erg_hub_r.html
It may be ugly but I never found all that stuff in the "Steinberg HUB" useful - and back then when I used Cubase you had no options to change the usefulness to the better. It showed the typical flaws of the problematic development style of that DAW.

Regarding the project selection window I would recommend to consolidate the folder info when you have opened several versions of a project in a row like this:

TophitMaster01.RPP D:\Songs\Tophit
TophitMix02.RPP
TophitMix01.RPP
TophitMix00.RPP

Instead of this duplicate info right now:

TophitMaster01.RPP D:\Songs\Tophit
TophitMix02.RPP D:\Songs\Tophit
TophitMix01.RPP D:\Songs\Tophit
TophitMix00.RPP D:\Songs\Tophit

Another good thing is alignment:

D:\Songs\Tophit
TophitMaster01.RPP
TophitMix02.RPP
TophitMix01.RPP
TophitMix00.RPP
D:\Songs\Topfflicker
Topfflicker01.RPP
Topfflicker00.RPP


Just some simple formatting would make this list way more readable.

Ps.: Maybe even an alternating list background (second line light grey).


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An undocumented change in this update is the track quick add fx menu, and I'm finding it really annoying to be honest.

In this image I'm right-clicking the FX button on the track "Main" to access the video processor already on the track.
Instead of that plugin being just below the mouse cursor it is now 5 inches away at the bottom of the big list of fx folders.





If you go through with changing this menu, please keep an option for the simple 3-item list. add fx, add fx chain, inserted plugins.

Thanks!
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In 5.65, the loaded plugins on the track will be on top rather than on bottom.
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