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09-01-2010, 08:23 AM
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#81
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 4,105
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Quote:
Originally Posted by primelpott
Kenny,
do You know the meaning of the word fair?
No? Okay ...
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Yes. You are correct. As previously mentioned, the new pricing is "unfair" for some people.
But as I looked up the word "fair" and "unfair" in my dictionary I couldn't help but notice another word. "Significant".
I'm still shocked to see people call Reaper "fairly" priced. As in "Moderately" or "Reasonably" priced. Whaaat??
As compared to what? Pirated music?
Because it's not fairly priced compared to a hamburger. Or a bicycle. Or just about anything else I can think of. It is soo severely "under-priced" that I don't think it's "fair" to any other company that makes a DAW.
If Microsoft had created it I'd bet that Apple would be suing them. jk
At $499.00 - Logic is considered to be selling their DAW at cost just to sell computers. Digital Performer has lowered their price to match, but without a computer to sell, I doubt that they'll stick around much longer.
Perhaps a more "fair" model would be to consider purchases 3 months out.
So if you bought it 3 months ago, you're out the full $20.
But if you only bought it 2 months ago, you're only out $13.33
And if you only bought it 1 month ago, you're only out $6.66
Bought it 13 days ago? You only lose $2.86
Is that more "fair"?
Kind of reminds me of the Waves WUP plans.
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09-01-2010, 10:39 AM
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#82
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,572
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LOVE LOVE LOVE REAPER!
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09-01-2010, 10:40 AM
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#83
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,572
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Quote:
Originally Posted by subtractive
Me too! I bought it about 2 weeks ago. Well, it's only $20. No big deal. What really makes me sad is $500 for Sonar. Complete junk!
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Haha I like how you're about as anti-Sonar as I am anti-ProTools.
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09-01-2010, 10:45 AM
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#84
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,572
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Quote:
Originally Posted by primelpott
Okay,
cleverness or not. It leaves quite a bitter taste ..
This is 33,33% less. For three weeks? 10% would be okay. Prior notice would have been okay.
@subz :
If they had made a version leap for example from 3,66 to 3.7 or so
- I eventually could understand. But I bought 3.66 and now it's 3.661.
No really extend service period ...
This is a bit unfair, isn't it?
But I will stop complaining - Reaper is even at $60 a real bargain.
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Wow... some people can't seem to get a feel for context. I'm really biting my tongue here and will just say this... if you admit REAPER is a bargain at $60, why complain at all? You're putting yourself in a bad light.
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09-01-2010, 10:50 AM
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#85
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 3,210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Not offering the price cut at all is unfair to anyone who buys a REAPER 3 license shortly before REAPER 4 is released.
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i think this is a very good point that every one is missing!
the simple fix is to offer, no wait then they will be even more piffed off,
Ahh wait i have it!!!
you offer Reaper 3 to 4.99 for $40 on random day (as was done this time) but you also offer Reaper 3 to 5.99 for $60 & offer all who already own Reaper 3 to 4.99 a upgrade offer to last to 5.99 for $20 [edit] scrap that it will still leave users piffed off, "i paid $60 last week now i have to pay another $20 that $80 blah blah, seems you cant win! [edit end]
that is the simplest way i can find to actually keep everyone happy & not cost you to much profit
i'm honestly happy i got in before the price drop as i can not pay $40 as i had been using it for full production from over a month before i paid (Sorry! ) i would feel guilty as sin if i held out & got it for $40
i want Reaper to outlive me as i intend to train my kids on it
Subz
Last edited by Subz; 09-01-2010 at 11:01 AM.
Reason: seems i can't solve things after all
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09-01-2010, 11:07 AM
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#86
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
Posts: 22,754
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I have practically lost the will to lie trying to understand this thread. Think I will go back to making music and searching for cheap mics on ebay....
Reaper? Oh, yeah - that`s what this thread started up about.... I found out I have a 1.xx licence so I guess it is wait till four time for me - $60 instead of $50 when I first bought, but inflation inthe meantime makes this reasonable. Hell, MORE than reasonable.
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09-01-2010, 11:13 AM
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#87
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
Posts: 22,754
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
September 2007 would have been a REAPER 1 license, meaning that license is only good through 2.58. If you are currently using a REAPER version later than 2.58, the right thing to do would be to buy a license.
Unfortunately there isn't an upgrade discount from REAPER 1 licenses. Hopefully by this point, somebody who's been using REAPER for 3 or more years on their original v1 $40 license has gotten their money's worth.
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?????
I paid $50 for mine - it ran out at 2.85.
Does that mean that in spite of thinking I had a 1 licence I bought a 2 licence?
I think I bought around december of 2007??
I honestly can`t remember that far back, but it may well have been at version 2 when I bought.
Like I said, maybe I need to go make some music....
(grin)
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09-02-2010, 04:49 AM
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#88
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: octopusse's garden
Posts: 12
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Oh my god,
how dare I to say anything against the generosity of Cockos!
Just to put some things straight: I really appreciate Reaper's price policy!
It is absolutely great for $60, $80 or even $100.
But to say it a last time (I won't argue or repeat me anymore):
This is not charity, this is business! (btw. Did you all pay for - as an example - your Winamp? Yes? Fine! Good boys!)
I just tried to explain how i feel as as "valued costumer" when i get said:
"Oh well, You got bad luck! You bought 3 weeks ago. We're now 1/3rd cheaper. Sorry, but I can't help it! But look, what you would have got for Your money when you would have bought in the future." Once again : I'm a costumer, not a beggar for charity.
@DeyBwah:
If you talk about context, you should carefully look at all sides. Not only at yours.
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Either way, I shall not be held responsible for any of that.
Last edited by primelpott; 09-02-2010 at 05:07 AM.
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09-02-2010, 10:59 AM
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#89
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 212
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Count on my upgrade from v2!!
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09-02-2010, 12:25 PM
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#90
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 3,210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by primelpott
(btw. Did you all pay for - as an example - your Winamp? Yes?
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No, i always used the free version
to be honest i only used it recent to do net Radio over ShoutCast
to the best of my knowledge this was/is all above bored with the free Standard version of Winamp?
Subz
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09-02-2010, 01:41 PM
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#91
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 22
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Bored of Tunbridge Wells. I think we all agree don't we...
(Thanks Cockos)
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09-02-2010, 03:14 PM
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#92
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Middle England U.K
Posts: 31
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Is WinAmp still around?
Hav'nt seen for years.
Reaper great product.
Great value for money.
Need I say more.
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09-03-2010, 10:04 AM
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#93
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: South Coast, England
Posts: 708
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Hmmm, I for one was a bit miffed when i bought in at v2.5x and then v3 comes out a few weeks later with a license to v4.99. Well having thought about it again, I realised that I was happy to spend $50 for it then so why am I miffed now? After all it's the same product! So if a product is cheaper now than when you purchased it, does it make it any less valuable now? No! Else you wouldn't have paid the original price in the first place!
Rock on Cockos - I'll be upgrading
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09-03-2010, 10:59 PM
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#94
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: S.E.England
Posts: 329
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I've only recently discovered Reaper and I was lucky enough to get the $40.00 deal. This program has doubled my recorded output and had I paid $60.00 for it, a day, an hour or a minute before the price drop, I would still consider it a bargain.
If Cockos continue to make and improve this great product as well as they are doing they can be sure that I'll keep buying it.
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09-05-2010, 06:26 AM
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#95
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Middle England U.K
Posts: 31
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I paid $60 for mine but I'm not complaining.
I am having so much fun learning Reaper and discovering new things every day coupled with the wonderfull support from the forum
you just cant complain.
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09-05-2010, 05:55 PM
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#96
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 3,210
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FYI
the download page still has the old price on it,
Subz
FIXED NOW
Last edited by Subz; 09-13-2010 at 03:46 AM.
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09-06-2010, 02:27 PM
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#97
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 45
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Damn, that is another dent into my boozing money.
Ah well... Another $50 bucks well spend. Thanks for all the great work guys!
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09-07-2010, 12:48 AM
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#98
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by subtractive
Me too! I bought it about 2 weeks ago. Well, it's only $20. No big deal. What really makes me sad is $500 for Sonar. Complete junk!
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Well, to be fair, (a) Sonar is down to 400, and (b), Reaper still hasn't caught up with Sonar in terms of ease and power of its piano roll view. But with V4 around the corner, one can hope...
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09-07-2010, 07:28 PM
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#99
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Québec city
Posts: 411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
-Justin (+SCO)
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Who's "O" ?
I'm used to JCS but don't know who is "o"...
And to keep myself in line with the thread... Have a look at my signature:
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09-07-2010, 07:36 PM
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#100
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simple Simon
Justin (and team) for world presidents! Hell... Justin (and team) for World Dictator (benevolent, of course)!
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09-08-2010, 10:04 AM
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#102
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Québec city
Posts: 411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zappsunzorn
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You're right. I should not take vacation when important stuff is announced here...
Dali
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REAPER: The best experience I've ever had with intellectual property. (BaronStinky)
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09-10-2010, 04:53 AM
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#103
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: earth
Posts: 273
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so so happy I found Reaper
so happy
thanks cockos.
your contribution for a better evolution of our world is so lovely and inspiring
"be the change you want to see in the world" (Ghandi)
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09-11-2010, 04:56 PM
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#104
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Posts: 7
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A great move on Cockos Part
The reduce of Reaper's price couldn't have come at a better time.
In my opinion they are being sensitive to The world economy. In all, more people will be turning to Reaper with that iniciative after all. That will make Reaper stronger. I think we should vote the Devs for Office.
I AM VERY LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT VERSION 4 WILL BRING.
I wish the Cockos Team all the best and thank you so very much for all the great things you are doing.
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09-11-2010, 05:51 PM
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#105
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14
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Announcement: REAPER pricing changes
Considering the thousands of dollars I wasted on Sonar and ProTools LE, not to mention the countless hours of frustration and lost productivity I spent trying to get aforementioned software to actually work, the pointless and expensive annual "upgrades"...
The prospect of paying just $50 to upgrade my REAPER 2.0 license to a 4.0 license makes me just want to fly out there and do your housework, wash your car and cut your grass.
I've been raving about you guys to everyone I meet here in Nashville.
JT
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09-12-2010, 07:33 AM
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#106
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Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 4,326
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Also, the hundreds of $ saved for DAW allowed to get a much higher end audio card, and some plugins that cannot simply be found bundled with any daw.
Don't forget the 60$ or 40$ or whatever actually count for two upgrades of the "other guyz".
- Mario
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09-12-2010, 03:45 PM
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#107
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 8
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Euro change rate
I just stop using my cracked DAWs and for the first time of my life I paid for a license because:
1) Reaper is the best DAW and has a great community.
2) The fair pricing policy is what it always should be. The Euro change rate makes a licence 32 Euros only today.
Thank you Reaper team for all your great work.
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Reaper licensed user because I support fair pricing policy.
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09-12-2010, 07:47 PM
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#108
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 354
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Good for you, Rudi. Welcome "home" - it's good here.
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09-13-2010, 03:52 AM
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#109
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 3,210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudi
I just stop using my cracked DAWs and for the first time of my life I paid for a license because:
1) Reaper is the best DAW and has a great community.
2) The fair pricing policy is what it always should be. The Euro change rate makes a licence 32 Euros only today.
Thank you Reaper team for all your great work.
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Reapers even cutting in to the Warez sector of the market & making money from it!
& who said a unrestricted demo will never work?
Welcome!
Subz
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09-15-2010, 10:09 PM
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#110
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 147
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I feel guilty using this program legitimately for the price they charge. Not that I'm complaining but as soon as I make money from music comp - These guys will be getting a commercial license from me.
Now when is the October Sounds online Complete Composers Collection Special? Waiting for that big pay cheque to roll in for some sample loving.
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09-26-2010, 12:02 PM
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#111
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: California
Posts: 4
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Just a few quick things.
1.This product is AWESOME. I just started using it, and I'm all in.
2. I will be upgrading to a new DAW computer next month - is the license easily transferable?
3.On the lower left corner of the home page (index.php) the old pricing numbers are still listed.
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09-26-2010, 12:23 PM
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#112
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 6
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here in my place (Malaysia), Reaper is RM 124 (USD40), cubase is RM2050...
2050-124=1926...what a difference...
....if Reaper is a girl, im ready to marry her...but if Reaper is a guy, i gonna wait for her daughter...i love Reaper..haha...
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09-26-2010, 12:29 PM
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#113
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Super Moderator (no feelings)
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: On or near a dike
Posts: 9,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FatStratCat
Just a few quick things.
1.This product is AWESOME. I just started using it, and I'm all in.
2. I will be upgrading to a new DAW computer next month - is the license easily transferable?
3.On the lower left corner of the home page (index.php) the old pricing numbers are still listed.
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1. Thanks!
2. Yes.
3. Thanks!
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09-26-2010, 11:50 PM
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#114
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 207
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I've been using Reaper since V2.xx and I'm happily going to upgrade my licence on the very day Reaper 4 is released!
My band's album is being finished as we speak and it's ll done in Reaper with the help of a few external friends : Mr Superior Drummer, Mr POD, Mr Gibson and Mr Marshall, and if it hadn't been for Reaper, the recording would have taken a lot longer.
The minute the album brings money in, I'm paying for the commercial licence, I'll get it because it's all worth it and it's a way of saying thank you for being more than fair, generous and trusting... and obviously having a great product to boot.
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09-27-2010, 08:14 AM
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#115
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 4,630
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I think this is a good time to invest in Reaper 3 because it will only go up in value as a collector's item once the company stops making it. Buy now so you can reap the rewards later.
At last check, Sotheby's had auctioned off a copy of Reaper 2.0 at an astonishing $459.17!
(Yes, I was the buyer!)
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09-27-2010, 10:36 AM
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#116
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: France
Posts: 3,698
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kundalinguist
At last check, Sotheby's had auctioned off a copy of Reaper 2.0 at an astonishing $459.17!
(Yes, I was the buyer!)
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Are you one of moon field's buyer too ?
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09-29-2010, 05:10 PM
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#117
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 313
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MASSIVELY COOL
Wow, as usual.
This sort of thing is one of the main reasons that, though I still use Reaper less than my main DAW I still recommend Reaper constantly to my clients, and almost everyone who brings in projects or takes them out is using this product.
I will obviously be continuing to upgrade.
And since it has been mentioned elsewhere that my main showstopper feature is being addressed in 4.x (take/comping workflow) I still hold out hope that Reaper could be my main tool sooner than later.
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09-30-2010, 11:06 AM
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#118
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2
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Reaper for School
Hi folks,
I'm so new here and not sure where to ask a few things ^_^°
I plan to use Reaper at school (I'm a teacher...)
If I buy a license then can I install Reaper on all computers at school or do I need a license for every computer?
And
Is Reaper supporting the german language by chance?
Best Regards
Ralf
...a so far Logic User for 15 Jears...
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09-30-2010, 11:16 AM
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#119
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Virginia Beach VA
Posts: 2,274
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ralf-77
If I buy a license then can I install Reaper on all computers at school or do I need a license for every computer?
And
Is Reaper supporting the german language by chance?
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Welcome to the Forum!
No German language version now, but you can customize the menus. I am not sure if someone has made a custom menu translated to German.
For special licensing cases I would contact Cockos with the address given at the bottom right of the purchase page email licensing at cockos.
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09-30-2010, 11:35 AM
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#120
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Super Moderator (no feelings)
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: On or near a dike
Posts: 9,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ralf-77
Hi folks,
I'm so new here and not sure where to ask a few things ^_^°
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Welcome to REAPER!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ralf-77
I plan to use Reaper at school (I'm a teacher...)
If I buy a license then can I install Reaper on all computers at school or do I need a license for every computer?
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Please contact licensing[at]cockos.com with some details. Thanks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ralf-77
Is Reaper supporting the german language by chance?
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No, sorry. At least not officially and far from being complete (clickme). Documentation auf Deutsch is next to nonexistent.
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