Convert sysex from MIDI file to syx file

[msundh]

I have some old patches for CasioCZ1000 that I want to import into CZ-V, but I only have it in MIDI files.
The Cz V doesn't seems to recognize sysex messages.
I've googled for file converters but I only found some win3 programs that I cannot use.

[Philbo King]

I've never had problems sending sysex files to a synth from reaper. How are you doing it? Is it possible you need to set something in the Casio before sending?

[schwa]

If you load the MIDI files into REAPER and open the MIDI editor, here is a reascript that should extract the sysex messages and export each one to a .syx file.

path="/Users/XXX/Desktop" -- wherever you want the files to go
tk=reaper.MIDIEditor_GetTake(reaper.MIDIEditor_GetActive())
if tk ~= nil then
  cnt,notecnt,cccnt,syxcnt=reaper.MIDI_CountEvts(tk)
  for i=0, syxcnt do
    ret, sel, mute, ppqpos, type, msg=
      reaper.MIDI_GetTextSysexEvt(tk, i, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0)
    if type == -1 then
      fn=path.."/reaper_"..i..".syx"
      file=io.open(fn, "w")
      if file ~= nil then
        file:write("\xF0"..msg.."\xF7")
        file:close()
        reaper.ShowConsoleMsg("wrote "..fn.."\n")
      end
    end
  end
end

[msundh]

Hi
Thanks, but it doesn't seems to work.
50% ofthe files are successfully imported, but sounds bad (same).
I'm pretty sure the sysex is ok.
They are from a CZ1000 I had last century.
Someone on another forum said that the syx files spec is manufactur specific. Is that true?
I know the data is specific, but the syx file spec?

Philbo:
It is a VST synth, not a real CZ1000.

[schwa]

The sysex file data is manufacturer specific, but the file format is not.

You could try the minor edit I made to the script, above.

[msundh]

Originally Posted by schwa

The sysex file data is manufacturer specific, but the file format is not.

You could try the minor edit I made to the script, above.

Thanks, but it become worse.
I fear that the sysex messsages are corrupt

[Philbo King]

Originally Posted by msundh

Hi
Thanks, but it doesn't seems to work.
50% ofthe files are successfully imported, but sounds bad (same).
I'm pretty sure the sysex is ok.
They are from a CZ1000 I had last century.
Someone on another forum said that the syx files spec is manufactur specific. Is that true?
I know the data is specific, but the syx file spec?

Philbo:
It is a VST synth, not a real CZ1000.

There's not much to the sysex file spec. A couple unique bytes mark the beginning and end. Everything between is manufacturer-specific.

Since it's a VSTi, it's very likely it doesn't do sysex. At least I've never encountered any VSTi that can use them. On the other hand, I've never tried it either.

[drichard]

It's been a long time, but if I remember correctly the old CZ synths transferred data a bit differently than most. Please don't take this as fact but IIRC correctly they don't accept a simple sysex dump directly, but rather require a "handshake" protocol in which sysex communication is begun, an ACK sent back, and then data transfer can begin. And it might be that MIDI data was transferred in packets, with an ACK required at each stage. Years ago I wrote a CZ software prog for an Atari ST, and I don't recall that a simple sysex dump would work. There are a couple of early MIDI devices that worked that way. The Roland TR707 comes to mind.

You may need to find software specific to the CZ to transfer patches, and the software likely has its own file format for storing the data.

Originally Posted by msundh

I have some old patches for CasioCZ1000 that I want to import into CZ-V, but I only have it in MIDI files.
The Cz V doesn't seems to recognize sysex messages.
I've googled for file converters but I only found some win3 programs that I cannot use.

[LugNut]

Hi,
I started with Atari st and music. At First alleditor/ librarians were for single instruments. Then came xor, then unisyn, now I have and still use Soundiver.
Soundiver has a module for the Casio if I'm not mistaken. But its 32 bit only on
PC. One reason I'm still on xp:-)
Handshaking was quite common in the early days.
Oh yeah, stay away from midi quest:-)

[LugNut]

Hi,
If this is the arturia cz ...it says it can import original cz sysex. So it must be the old banks are either corrupted or not in the correct format. Or it coulkd be user error.

Edit..op, maybe your not connected bidirectional? Midi in AND out?

[msundh]

This is old dumps. My cz1000 is not working, so I have only this.
I did each sysex to separate files. Then concatenate them into one file. It did not work, then changed the midi channel and it worked in Arturia CZ V.

[LugNut]

Hi,
I think that's because the orig hardware had to be set to CH 1 for sysex dumps to work. I saw it in the thread I linked to.