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07-27-2020, 04:55 AM
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Reaper as software to improve sound on YouTube
Hello!
I have a probably very dumb question. I m using reaper to create music, but I recently joined an association that publicises scientific researches and makes interview by streamyard. Can I use reaper to put a limiter and a distresser on my voice and then send it to streamyard live? The video is then recorded by a third party and uploaded to YouTube. Does someone know if it is possible and how to do it ?
Thank you!
Windows 10, focusrite scarlett 2i4, tc helicon Create XT, Sennheiser e 845s
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07-27-2020, 05:41 AM
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Sure you can do it. What issue do you have?
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07-27-2020, 05:55 AM
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My issue it that I don't know how to configure reaper so it acts between the audio interface and the webrowser
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07-27-2020, 05:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baptiste Friscourt
My issue it that I don't know how to configure reaper so it acts between the audio interface and the webrowser
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I'm not sure I get it. Do you want to edit youtube video in Reaper in real time? It's not possible though. You'll need to download it first.
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07-27-2020, 06:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
I'm not sure I get it. Do you want to edit youtube video in Reaper in real time? It's not possible though. You'll need to download it first.
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OP isn't trying to fix existing content. Streamyard is a live streaming platform. OP wants to clean voice output for live broadcast. I have never done this, so will shut up now.
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07-27-2020, 06:03 AM
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Nope, I want to use reaper as a live pedalboard, sending a better audio to streamyard while host of the streamyard session is recording.
As far as I tried it seems to me that the signal goes
Source - interface - reaper - return
............................ - streamyard - YouTube
And I would like
Source - interface - reaper - streamyard - YouTube
...............................- return
When it's recorded.
Once recorded it's then uploaded to YouTube
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07-27-2020, 06:19 AM
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I'm not sure, but it may be possible with ReaCast.
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07-27-2020, 07:52 AM
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Creating an internet streaming website is out of the scope of Reaper. Reaper is a DAW. It will cover everything and everything audio related but it isn't also a website creation tool. Reaper IS an excellent choice for live audio and live broadcast mixing though.
Reaper can work with audio to the highest levels. The limitation will be the available bandwidth you will need to reduce to for the streaming service. Higher bandwidth for broadcast is more expensive as the bandwidth goes up. Customers on the receiving end will need a certain level of service to stream your highest quality.
You also mention making a lo-fi distorted voice with fx. "put a limiter and a distresser on my voice". Reaper can do any and all of that.
You can insert a DAW between an incoming audio stream and your output device if you wish. This won't change anything about the streaming quality of any website you get a stream from or send a stream to though. The easiest way to insert a DAW app between a live incoming stream and your output device is to use a virtual audio device app like Soundflower or Loopback. Assign system audio to the virtual device. Make ag aggregate device of the virtual device + your audio interface used for output. Select the aggregate device in Reaper. Pick up the incoming audio from the virtual device channels. Output to your interface.
Creating a streaming service webpage will be more about working with web development software than the audio part.
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07-27-2020, 08:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by serr
You also mention making a lo-fi distorted voice with fx. "put a limiter and a distresser on my voice". Reaper can do any and all of that.
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FWIW, My guess was that distresser = Distressor VST (it's a compressor).
I don't think OP is trying to build a website, he's just looking to stream audio:
Voice > Mic > Interface > Reaper > Compressor > Limiter > Plugin > Streamyard
Reacast is a plugin which comes with Reaper for the purposes of streaming. I believe Voxengo do a poplar one too. My guess - and it is only a guess - is that either would connect with Steamyard. They're both free. Op might want to look at Reastream too. (I have no idea what any of this stuff does, but I did, at least, read the original post!)
I never was very good at shutting up.
Last edited by Fex; 07-27-2020 at 08:08 AM.
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07-27-2020, 08:34 AM
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Thank you all.
Indeed, it's not for streaming purposes, it's just to better the audio signal I'm sending through streamyard. The distresser prevent distortion due to high volume and the compressor limits the dynamic range of the signal.
What I want is to define the reaper out as an input for streamyard.
I'll look into the aggregating sources.
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07-27-2020, 09:05 AM
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You might be able to use ReaRoute. I used this when Using Jamulus (remote jam software). If tou route you master track to one of the ReaRoute outputs you should be able to select that output as an input into other software. I've not tried it with the software you're using but it worked well enough with Jamulus.
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07-27-2020, 09:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baptiste Friscourt
What I want is to define the reaper out as an input for streamyard.
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You're not the first to face this problem:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=236865
(not helpful, no answers)
In order to tell you how to configure Reaper as an output, I think we'd need to know what input Streamyard is expecting....
You might get more sense out of Streamyard's Helpdesk - apparently there is a “Having issues?” link in Streamyard which will pull up Facebook messenger where you can chat with them.
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07-27-2020, 10:29 AM
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Thank you!
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07-27-2020, 10:39 AM
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If you do find the answer elsewhere, perhaps you could post it here?
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07-27-2020, 10:49 AM
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From Dana, customer support streamyard
Yeah you can use the DAW
If you want the processed audio to be used
You ll need to route the DAW to your audio mixer
The final outputs need to be channel 1&2
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07-27-2020, 11:44 AM
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LOL, brilliant idea that was, then!
Most devices default to channels 1&2, which serve as stereo left and right. (People making or listening to surround sound systems will have different setups, but that's not relevant.)
The answer is lurking somewhere on this forum, but it might be quicker to wait for the right genius to see your post.
In the mean time, the answer is definitely somewhere here:
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ard+AND+Reaper
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07-27-2020, 11:49 AM
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Or, you know, assuming that you don't have an external mixer, tell Dana that Reaper is your mixer (and outputting to channels 1 & 2), and focusrite scarlett 2i4 is your audio interface and all are sitting happily on the same computer as this Steamyard thingummy, Windows 10, and how do you connect, please.
If Reaper is supposed to recognise this Streamyard thingummy as an output device, then I guess that might be something you'd find at
Options > Preferences > Audio > Device
Check audio interface settings on your computer too. And system sound settings on Windows.
My money's still on the plugin. But I still know nothing about this stuff.
Last edited by Fex; 07-27-2020 at 11:54 AM.
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07-27-2020, 12:06 PM
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Also, you might want to think about changing the title of your thread. This is little to do with "software to improve sound on YouTube" and much to do with "Using Streamyard streaming platform with Reaper." Different users will be interested in each.
Also:
Quote:
Originally Posted by serr
use a virtual audio device app like Soundflower or Loopback. Assign system audio to the virtual device. Make ag aggregate device of the virtual device + your audio interface used for output. Select the aggregate device in Reaper. Pick up the incoming audio from the virtual device channels. Output to your interface.
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.... this. I dunno. Might work.
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07-27-2020, 12:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fex
Also, you might want to think about changing the title of your thread. This is little to do with "software to improve sound on YouTube" and much to do with "Using Streamyard streaming platform with Reaper." Different users will be interested in each.
Also:.... this. I dunno. Might work.
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I tried, I can t edit the title sadly
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07-27-2020, 01:19 PM
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I wonder if i couldnt just use the out xlr of the scarlett, an plug it in into the 2 nd input of the scarlett and tell my pc to use that one as the main input. I don t know if windows can handle that
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07-27-2020, 03:13 PM
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07-27-2020, 04:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baptiste Friscourt
From Dana, customer support streamyard
Yeah you can use the DAW
If you want the processed audio to be used
You ll need to route the DAW to your audio mixer
The final outputs need to be channel 1&2
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what drivers are you using?
i think the advice above may require you to be running Reaper with the same drivers that streamyard is using, so probably switching to WASAPI may help?
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07-28-2020, 04:48 AM
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The default driver of the Scarlett is the asio
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07-28-2020, 01:01 PM
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I have a Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 3rd Gen. I think this will work on a smaller Scarlett, but it may have to be 3rd Gen. I couldn't do it on a first gen Scarlett 2i4.
As far as Windows is concerned, the audio device is "Focusrite USB Audio". That plays to "playback 1+2" which is muted in Focusrite control. Focusrite control routes "playback 3+4" to "Monitor Outputs 1+2".
In Reaper I have an input channel that monitors "Loop 1+2" from the Focusrite via ASIO. That track goes through an EQ and a Limiter, and routes to Reaper's master track, which routes to "playback 3+4".
This works really, really well for me. I can capture audio from anything Windows plays, I can add effects, I can mix other things, I can work in an entirely separate context on something else with different channels while Windows audio happily routes through Reaper and out to a monitor or headphone mix. Wouldn't trade this setup for anything.
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07-29-2020, 06:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by james0tucson
I have a Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 3rd Gen. I think this will work on a smaller Scarlett, but it may have to be 3rd Gen. I couldn't do it on a first gen Scarlett 2i4.
As far as Windows is concerned, the audio device is "Focusrite USB Audio". That plays to "playback 1+2" which is muted in Focusrite control. Focusrite control routes "playback 3+4" to "Monitor Outputs 1+2".
In Reaper I have an input channel that monitors "Loop 1+2" from the Focusrite via ASIO. That track goes through an EQ and a Limiter, and routes to Reaper's master track, which routes to "playback 3+4".
This works really, really well for me. I can capture audio from anything Windows plays, I can add effects, I can mix other things, I can work in an entirely separate context on something else with different channels while Windows audio happily routes through Reaper and out to a monitor or headphone mix. Wouldn't trade this setup for anything.
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Damn that's a good idea
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07-29-2020, 04:29 PM
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I have done this successfully with 2 tracks (stereo) or sometimes 4 tracks (4 in from interface, 2 out as stereo mix)
It is OS specific.
On macOs you use a virtual sound driver and create a aggregate device which includes the bundle of devices you want and use that device in the DAW, which now has:
inp interface x 4 (or however many)
out built-in imac speakers
out virtual driver (i.e. Soundflower 2ch)
In the DAW you get the 4 live instruments or mic-in's on their 4 individual tracks, then create a Routing on the MASTER to make a Hardware Output to direct the master mix to the virtual driver.
In the other app (browser or live streamer), you set the sound preferences or "audio devices" as such:
mic: virtual driver
speakers: built-in speakers
Success during livestreams and no perceivable latency.
i.e. Signal Path:
instruments ---/4/-via-aggregate---> DAW ----/2/-via-soundflower----> streaming app
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