MPL RS5k manager, basic Ableton DrumRack port

[Sweetfoot]

The new version looks incredible! It just keeps getting better.

However, when I click on "Learn", then turn a knob on my controller, nothing is appearing in the "command" field. If I go to the RS5K_manager_MacroControls in the fx window of the parent folder, I can use the midi learn there, and the corresponding MIDI CC appears in the command field as expected when I move the control. Am I doing something wrong, or is the learn function still a work in progress?

[mpl]

Originally Posted by BenjyO

Hey MPL. Got another request: I'd like to have an action to toggle enable/disable "NoteOff" for all or selected pads.

Added to settings (Drumrack: release pad send Note Off)

[mpl]

Originally Posted by Sweetfoot

The new version looks incredible! It just keeps getting better.

However, when I click on "Learn", then turn a knob on my controller, nothing is appearing in the "command" field. If I go to the RS5K_manager_MacroControls in the fx window of the parent folder, I can use the midi learn there, and the corresponding MIDI CC appears in the command field as expected when I move the control. Am I doing something wrong, or is the learn function still a work in progress?

Thats a native window, "Learn" button simply call it just like if you tweak some parameter and go to [plugin header] -> Param - Learn

[BenjyO]

Originally Posted by mpl

Added to settings (Drumrack: release pad send Note Off)

Not exactly what I had in mind but thank you anyway. The way you implemented it only makes it possible to set that option when importing the samples into the manager. I'd find it more useful if I could change that option even after I already imported samples onto pads.

[mpl]

Originally Posted by BenjyO

Not exactly what I had in mind but thank you anyway. The way you implemented it only makes it possible to set that option when importing the samples into the manager. I'd find it more useful if I could change that option even after I already imported samples onto pads.

ah sorry, misread
3.12 - you can alt+ctrl click noteoff button in sampler to apply this value to all notes all layers in current rack

[crackinkid]

So I add Reasamplomatic to a track select a Sample and then open RS5K Manager. But the Sampler doesn't appear.

Do I have to tick a box somewhere? Did I miss something?

Same thing happens on Mac os 10.15 and Windows 10

[mpl]

Originally Posted by crackinkid

So I add Reasamplomatic to a track select a Sample and then open RS5K Manager. But the Sampler doesn't appear.

Do I have to tick a box somewhere? Did I miss something?

Same thing happens on Mac os 10.15 and Windows 10

It doesn't work this way. It is designed to add sample by drop from browser onto rs5k manager pads. When you drop sample into rs5k manager, it reads all related data from sample, write it into track (internally) and build adsr limits around this data.

[crackinkid]

Originally Posted by mpl

It doesn't work this way. It is designed to add sample by drop from browser onto rs5k manager pads. When you drop sample into rs5k manager, it reads all related data from sample, write it into track (internally) and build adsr limits around this data.

Oops sry my bad. Thanks for clearing that up!

[Oren Sela]

Hey MPL,

Firstly, thank you so much for your genius work. RS5K manager is a god sent!
May I ask for only one thing?

I like it that you could play all the samples on the keys when you're on the MIDI bus.
I wish you could make it so that when you select one of the children tracks you could play the corresponding sample (and only it) across the keyboard with pitch tracking.

That would make it absolutely perfect...!!

TNX again

[mpl]

Originally Posted by Oren Sela

I like it that you could play all the samples on the keys when you're on the MIDI bus.
I wish you could make it so that when you select one of the children tracks you could play the corresponding sample (and only it) across the keyboard with pitch tracking.

Select childrens, then action:
Track: Set automatic record-arm when track selected

[BenjyO]

Originally Posted by mpl

ah sorry, misread
3.12 - you can alt+ctrl click noteoff button in sampler to apply this value to all notes all layers in current rack

Thank you mpl. That's more helpful. If it's possible I'd like to ask you to add another option: alt+ctrl+shift click -> toggles NoteOff value only for selected pads.

Also a question: If I keep the manager open and I switch to a completely different track, in the manager I still see the samples from that other track. I wanted to create a new rack on this different track. How can I do that? Even if I close and reopen the manager, the samples from that first track are shown. If I keep this new track selected and I drag & drop new samples into it, the previous track which held all previous samples becomes a child track of this new track. The new imported samples then merge with the old ones. Is this intended behavior?

Edit: I think I figured it out and I think it's a bug. If you want to create a new rack, it works properly if you create a track for that new rack below the existing rack's track. If however you create a new track above the existing rack's track, the manager shows the samples from the existing rack even though you have this new track selected and importing samples into it will cause the merging. Maybe a gif will explain that better:


Edit 2: Found another bug - related to the previous one:

[aurelien]

Hi mpl and thanks for this script!
Is there a way to do some round robin between layers?
A bit like this in the original ableton rack(i guess it could be even simpler in mpl 5k!)
https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/ar...ample-playback

[reapero]

Awesome script! thanks MPL!

If i import an item into a Reaper track, lets say a drum loop and then slice it every 1/4th and want those to be mapped to different cells, i find that the clips all start from the beginning of the source file, instead of the beginning of the item.

I guess i can glue each item separately before importing into the manager but i was expecting this not to be the standard behaviour. Took a look at the preferences (>) hoping to find something there that i could enable but there´s nothing there.

Being it such a standard use i wonder..am i missing something?

Thanks again!

[winbe]

Originally Posted by reapero

Awesome script! thanks MPL!

If i import an item into a Reaper track, lets say a drum loop and then slice it every 1/4th and want those to be mapped to different cells, i find that the clips all start from the beginning of the source file, instead of the beginning of the item.

I guess i can glue each item separately before importing into the manager but i was expecting this not to be the standard behaviour. Took a look at the preferences (>) hoping to find something there that i could enable but there´s nothing there.

Being it such a standard use i wonder..am i missing something?

Thanks again!

Hello, I am not sure if you use drag/drop but when doing similar things, I use ctrl+alt+drag (normal drag and drop does nothing anyway?), but his creates renders in the operation, the same as the glue solution that you are mentionning.

I am interested to know how you could quickly split and map to different cells as you describe.

[reapero]

If you right click on a pad there´s an option saying "Import selected starting from this pad" or something similar. That will map or your selected items to different cells with one click.

[mpl]

Originally Posted by BenjyO

Edit: I think I figured it out and I think it's a bug.

should be fixed for 3.14

[mpl]

Originally Posted by aurelien

Hi mpl and thanks for this script!
Is there a way to do some round robin between layers?
A bit like this in the original ableton rack(i guess it could be even simpler in mpl 5k!)
https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/ar...ample-playback

Bad idea for a way layers designed in RS5k manager.
Would be easier to drop samples into RS5k samples list (inside plugin), enable roundrobin there and use some velocity randomizer.

In RS5k every layer is in separated track. And it receives same MIDI. So implementing this will require sort of MIDI filter interacting with each other, placed at every layer track. Thats possible but too clumsy internally (even from RS5k manager that would be one click though).

[seten]

Hello! Just downloaded this and currently exploring, looks like exactly what I've been hoping for. One thing I can't figure out though is after I've already imported a sample to a pad, I can't seem to drag that sample to a new pad. A little box is attached to my cursor saying:

drag pad #xx
sample_name

but then dropping it on a new empty pad does nothing.

Also, maybe I'm misunderstanding this feature but if I select multiple pads with samples on them and then right click on an empty cell and select "import selected items to pads, starting this pad" nothing happens.

Apologies if this has already been answered, couldn't find anything skimming through this thread!

[mpl]

Originally Posted by seten

One thing I can't figure out though is after I've already imported a sample to a pad, I can't seem to drag that sample to a new pad. A little box is attached to my cursor saying:

drag pad #xx
sample_name

but then dropping it on a new empty pad does nothing.

It seems I broke this feature when cleared up external functions, update to 3.15 and it should works fine (simple drag - change layers note, ctrl+drag = copy attached layers to new note)

Originally Posted by seten

Also, maybe I'm misunderstanding this feature but if I select multiple pads with samples on them and then right click on an empty cell and select "import selected items to pads, starting this pad" nothing happens.
Apologies if this has already been answered, couldn't find anything skimming through this thread!

"import selected items to pads" is for scenario like
- select audio ITEMS (in the arrange)
- import thir audio sources into pads sequentally starting pad you just right clicked

[seten]

Originally Posted by mpl

It seems I broke this feature when cleared up external functions, update to 3.15 and it should works fine (simple drag - change layers note, ctrl+drag = copy attached layers to new note)



"import selected items to pads" is for scenario like
- select audio ITEMS (in the arrange)
- import thir audio sources into pads sequentally starting pad you just right clicked

Yep, it works now thank you so much! Ahh okay that makes sense and is much more useful. Excited to start using this!

[Sweetfoot]

Originally Posted by mpl

Thats a native window, "Learn" button simply call it just like if you tweak some parameter and go to [plugin header] -> Param - Learn

The native window sees input from my MIDI controller when I go to [plugin header of track holding RS5K instance] -> Param - Learn, but not when I call the window using the learn button in RS5k manager. Any idea why this might be happening?

[Sweetfoot]

Originally Posted by mpl

Thats a native window, "Learn" button simply call it just like if you tweak some parameter and go to [plugin header] -> Param - Learn

I made a very short video demonstrating the issue: https://youtu.be/ZqtgJm2QFvo

[Ears]

This is everything I thought RS5K would be when I first tried the stock standard version. Thanks, I just had a quick play around with it and it's awesome!

[mpl]

Originally Posted by Sweetfoot

I made a very short video demonstrating the issue: https://youtu.be/ZqtgJm2QFvo

Sorry I can`t fix this. Maybe I missed something obvious. Instead I can probably try to read incoming message retrospectively (in that case that will be probbly faster assign without native window) and assign last incoming control to a desired prameter.

[mpl]

Originally Posted by Sweetfoot

I made a very short video demonstrating the issue: https://youtu.be/ZqtgJm2QFvo

Added to 3.16.
You can also use script mpl_Bind last touched controller to last touched parameter.lua, it is same code under the hood, so

- tweak parameter
- tweak MIDI controller
- run this script or "Learn" button in RS5l manager and it will bind controller to parameter (the learn flags are off by default)

[klauth]

Hey I'm super new to Reaper and I think this will be lovely.
I managed to install it correctly.

Now for the purpose of LIVE performing I want that whenever I select a track it is hearable and record armed/monitored but only while being selected and only that track.
How do I do that?
And how do I do that with MPL tracks as these seem to only be audible when I arm the Midi BUS which is within that trick.

Super confusing here the first steps but maybe someone can help me with these questions quickly

[mpl]

Originally Posted by klauth

Now for the purpose of LIVE performing I want that whenever I select a track it is hearable and record armed/monitored but only while being selected and only that track. How do I do that?

Try auto-record-arm (right click record arm) on selected tracks?

[ayskura]

I love RS5K Manager, I updated the version but it's all changed now! I can't see anymore the piano and drag files on it etc. etc. I like the drum rack but I think it either should be a different version or maybe having a page as old behaviour as I just loved it so much... can I revert somehow to the old version ? big thank you MPL as I really love this

[ayskura]

I figured it out how to revert. one thing I like of the new version it creates different tracks for each instrument which can be useful but I still prefer the old visual of piano roll and drag samples in it

[daeavelwyn]

Thanks so much for this incredible work ! RS5k start being user friendly ! I just have a suggestion if you may, would it be possible to have a "kind of" scrollbar, or even just a mousewheel scroll when the differents UI elements are not shown ?

Actually I have to rezise the window every time a block is show/hide and the size total size of all blocks exceed the window size. I'm working on a laptop, so maybe I should find another workflow, but if you could add this it would definitively improve my workflow !

BTW thanks again for the huge among of work you put into Reaper stuff, not only this script, but so many ones I'd love to use !

[mpl]

Originally Posted by daeavelwyn

Thanks so much for this incredible work ! RS5k start being user friendly ! I just have a suggestion if you may, would it be possible to have a "kind of" scrollbar, or even just a mousewheel scroll when the differents UI elements are not shown ?

Actually I have to rezise the window every time a block is show/hide and the size total size of all blocks exceed the window size. I'm working on a laptop, so maybe I should find another workflow, but if you could add this it would definitively improve my workflow !

BTW thanks again for the huge among of work you put into Reaper stuff, not only this script, but so many ones I'd love to use !

Would it be enough if you would scroll mousewhell to loop tabs?

[daeavelwyn]

Originally Posted by mpl

Would it be enough if you would scroll mousewhell to loop tabs?

You mean put the mouse cursor over the left panel list and scroll or you mean keep the cursor over the opened panel and scroll ?

The second option is my favorite (and I think the more intuitive for everyone), but if it's easier to make the first, it would already be great !

[daeavelwyn]

Maybe stupid question but how can I add a sample from the arrange view to RS5K manager for layering ? I've tried drag'n drop, copy/paste but I surely missed something :-/

[mpl]

Originally Posted by ayskura

but I still prefer the old visual of piano roll and drag samples in it

Since 3.18 you can change layout of drum rack, see Settings/UI. This also change behaviour and look of grid module (dragging grid area is quantized as a layout, to 2 octaves).

[mpl]

Originally Posted by daeavelwyn

a mousewheel scroll when the differents UI elements are not shown

3.18 wheel on tabs loop tabs starting from first active.

Originally Posted by daeavelwyn

Maybe stupid question but how can I add a sample from the arrange view to RS5K manager for layering ? I've tried drag'n drop, copy/paste but I surely missed something :-/

If you want simple file-to-note, just drop file from explorer/finder or mediaexplorer into pa. But if you want multiple layers, you have to open "Device" tab and drop sample(s) there. It will convert single pad (attached to some note) into 'device'. After this, triggering single note will triggers all layers in group. You`ll still be able to manipulate effects on each layer separately, there are also on their own tracks.

[daeavelwyn]

Originally Posted by mpl

If you want simple file-to-note, just drop file from explorer/finder or mediaexplorer into pa. But if you want multiple layers, you have to open "Device" tab and drop sample(s) there. It will convert single pad (attached to some note) into 'device'. After this, triggering single note will triggers all layers in group. You`ll still be able to manipulate effects on each layer separately, there are also on their own tracks.

I meant, if I freeze item to get an audio sample (let say a kick) I can't import that frozen audio kick into RS5K manager.

I've tried to fing a way to import a sample I just create (freeze midi item to audio) into the media explorer, but as it implies a copy/paste or move/paste option to manipulate the *.wav file, I guess it's quite out of the Reaper scope.

The idea behind this, is to be able to generate a bunch of samples (for example 4 differente kicks I made on a track with a synth like Vital) and then import then into the rack directly and/or into my personal sample library (which means via the media explorer).

Actually i have to :
1- Create a track with a synth
2- tweak the synth to create a kick
3- render this kick as an audio item
4- move forward and create another kick changing synth parameters
5- render this new kick
6- repeat step 4 and 5 again and again until I made the desire number of kicks.
7- Now I want snare,
8- I move forward my synth track; tweak parameters until i'm happy with and render/freeze the items.
9- do the same for, let say, 5 new different snares.
10- I do the same to create Hit-Hat and other drums elements

So I got a track with my synth as a VSTi and a bunch of items rendered as audio items. There are kicks, snares, hit-hats and other elements on this track.

Actually I can't import them directly into RS5K manager drumrack. I know how to import them into Reasamplomatic instances but, as your script is an (awesome!) imporvement of reasamplomatic workflow, I'd like to be able to directly import those samples into the drumrack.

So for now, I have to save those rendered files into my personal sample library (export them I mean) and then update my sample lib DB, and then finaly be able to get them into drumrack by drag n droping them.

Doable, but a bit tedious. So I hope this explanation is a bit clearer thant my previous post, let me know if I'm not clear enough

Here is an illustration of the behviour I got :


So I know I can right click and import selected item, but it won't respects the item start and end I tweaked on the arrange view.

[mpl]

Originally Posted by daeavelwyn

So I know I can right click and import selected item, but it won't respects the item start and end I tweaked on the arrange view.

So, something wrong with the import? Send me please RPP+audio to [ m dot pilyavskiy at gmail dot com]

[Ears]

Originally Posted by daeavelwyn

Here is an illustration of the behviour I got :

It looks like you're using Shift drag in the illustration, and not CTRL+ALT drag.

[mpl]

Originally Posted by Ears

It looks like you're using Shift drag in the illustration, and not CTRL+ALT drag.

It doesn`t matter anyway because script can`t grab item from arrange dropped via mouse. The stuff can be dropped only from Explorer/finder or MediaExplorer or from FX browser.

[Ears]

Originally Posted by mpl

It doesn`t matter anyway because script can`t grab item from arrange dropped via mouse. The stuff can be dropped only from Explorer/finder or MediaExplorer or from FX browser.

Sorry, perhaps I misunderstood something.

I'm able to CTRL+ALT drag from the same track like this:



I thought this is what daeavelwyn was trying to do (but it looked like they were using SHIFT drag).