MPL RS5k manager, basic Ableton DrumRack port

[mpl]

Originally Posted by J Reverb

When dragging files from media browser to the manager I am getting a double name entry in the pad/key gui.

kick(1)
kick

Am I doing something wrong?
I have checked and there only seems to be one instance but two names on the pads.

Thanks.

By default the first "kick" is name note in MIDI editor, then count of linked RS5K instances, then list of sample names in these instances. Like:

Kick(3)
Sub_kick808
Punch_BD
LinDrBD

You can edit format via tags from menu.

[J Reverb]

Great stuff thanks much appreciated a lot neater now here.

Noticed a bug i think on the controls, the start/end rotary controls seem to stick themselves together i.e move at the same time is this expected behaviour ?

[mpl]

Originally Posted by J Reverb

Noticed a bug i think on the controls, the start/end rotary controls seem to stick themselves together i.e move at the same time is this expected behaviour ?

Expected, they are limited by each other. Also dragging start offset shifts looped segment so lenth of loop is preserved.

[J Reverb]

Originally Posted by mpl

Expected, they are limited by each other. Also dragging start shift looped segment so length of loop is preserved.

Right I see, understood, thanks.

Just a quick FR
I have a small screen on laptop, could we have an option to hide the waveform display as well as separating it?
Many thanks.

[J Reverb]

Just synced Reapack and boom!

Show waveform option in GUI

Thanks for this MPL 'awesome' also makes switching between pads
a load faster nice one

[X-Raym]

Poll: Don't you think it would be more accessible/ergonomic if Pads and waveforms were more contrasted against background ?


Here is my test with a alpha set to 1 for both waveforms and pad colors, flat color for assigned pads.

Custom mod


Original

[mpl]

Yeah, probably not really a 1, but something closer to 1 would be better.

[Ozman]

MPL...
How about the option of "pre-RS5K" fxchain for new sample tracks?

Example: MIDI note repeat (Rapidfire).

Another possibility: Note repeat can even be added to the current gui (1/4, 1/8, ..., normal, triplet, etc.) and placed before the rs5k instance when in use.

[mccrabney]

hey man -

regarding the different "mpl_RS5k manager control functions" modes -- they all seem to work as expected (last touched, RS5K modes) except for "last touched" ...

if i understand correctly, the expected behavior is that only the last touched RS5K's params are changed by the increment actions. this does not work (no params seem to be changed at all).

otherwise, things are working very well!

[mpl]

Originally Posted by Ozman

MPL...
How about the option of "pre-RS5K" fxchain for new sample tracks?

Menu/Dragndrop option/Use custom FX chain for newly dragged samples ?

if i understand correctly, the expected behavior is that only the last touched RS5K's params are changed by the increment actions. this does not work (no params seem to be changed at all).

Not sure, but hopefully fixed now.
Edit: not expected for last touched parameter, but last touched FX

[mccrabney]

hey, thanks for the fast reply and bug fix.

the behavior is improved, but "last touched" requires a user to modify a param before the targeted RS5K instance can be manipulated by your script.

in other words, simply clicking/focusing an RS5K is not enough to make REAPER consider it "last touched" -- a user must mouse to a parameter and click that before your increment scripts work.

perhaps "focused" rs5k instance would work better than "last touched" rs5k instance?

[mpl]

For make FX focused you still need a click on it.

[mccrabney]

Originally Posted by mpl

For make FX focused you still need a click on it.

or focus it via actions, which would be my strategy. to me, the purpose of all of these actions/modes is to avoid using the mouse more than necessary.

[mccrabney]

also, unrelated - where might i look if i wanted to create my own layout (ala 8x8, etc) ?

edit -- found it in obj...now to play...

[mpl]

Originally Posted by mccrabney

or focus it via actions, which would be my strategy. to me, the purpose of all of these actions/modes is to avoid using the mouse more than necessary.

Added as new mode.

Re: maps. Yes, there is no way (except changing code directly) to create external maps.

[Ozman]

In regards to Pre-RS5K chains, I used the "Menu/Dragndrop option/Use custom FX chain for newly dragged samples" script, and it works as I'd suspect.

However, what I tried was adding an instance of RS5K as a placeholder, hoping that it would be replaced by the instance coming from the original track, which didn't work.

So how about an option for an FX chain that can be prepended, before the RS5K instance?

Use case: a disabled Midi Note Repeat.

Or, even simpler: We can have an effect, of which its instance is renamed, like an RS5K renamed to --REPLACE-- or something, which will be targeted location of the RS5K instance.

[mpl]

Originally Posted by Ozman

So how about an option for an FX chain that can be prepended, before the RS5K instance?

*at first sight* Looks possible.
*after inspecting code* Even current code for inserting FX Chain is soooo rough and as is can cause different problems. Most likely it will be soon removed for safety reasons, until REAPER devs introduce API for inserting FX Chain from file at specific FX id, but i`m not sure this will happen someday.

[themixtape]

This looks incredibly dope. Any way to midi-map the start/end points via MIDI hardware controller (knob/encoder)? At least? I also dig the 4x4 grid. Very helpful and similar functionality to Poise... but for FREEEEEE

Thanks!

[mpl]

Originally Posted by themixtape

This looks incredibly dope. Any way to midi-map the start/end points via MIDI hardware controller (knob/encoder)? At least?

Depending on your workflow, you can use control function (there are a lot of them, add https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Re...ster/index.xml to ReaPack via "Import repository" action):
1) control focused FX
2) control last touched FX (unrelated to parameter)
3) control all FX on selected track
4) control all RS5k instances related to RS5k manager
5) control current note RS5k instances related to RS5k manager (this was just added, require click on pad before so control script know on which note you need to change parameters)
Typical usage is a custom action linked to MIDI controller:

• mpl_RS5k manager control functions - RS5k manager current instance.lua
• mpl_Increment 1ms release (RS5k manager).lua

No support for OSC/MIDI(knob&fader) yet since no one asked this. Probably this very specific and hard to follow/setup/understand, so not sure I should continue to support this feature further. Actually there only one user asked for that kind of workflow (mccrabney).

[Rangler]

Watching the Reaper Blog I have a question. Does it have to put the sample into its own separate track when you create a send for effects? I rather it just send audio to that new track and keep all the samples in the same track. Easier to manage for choke hi-hat plugin.

Also, there's a bug where the buttons don't respond until I move the mouse cursor away from the manager window and then back again. (macOS Sierra)

[mpl]

Originally Posted by Rangler

Watching the Reaper Blog I have a question. Does it have to put the sample into its own separate track when you create a send for effects? I rather it just send audio to that new track and keep all the samples in the same track. Easier to manage for choke hi-hat plugin.

Also, there's a bug where the buttons don't respond until I move the mouse cursor away from the manager window and then back again. (macOS Sierra)

No, it doesn't work this way. You have MIDI ONLY sends from parent track. If you want a sample been processed via its own FX chain, click on "FX" button. Or enable "Always create new track for newly dropped samples" in Menu/Dragndrop options.

I can't test/fix/report bug since I haven't Mac now.

[Rangler]

Originally Posted by mpl

No, it doesn't work this way. You have MIDI ONLY sends from parent track. If you want a sample been processed via its own FX chain, click on "FX" button. Or enable "Always create new track for newly dropped samples" in Menu/Dragndrop options.

I can't test/fix/report bug since I haven't Mac now.

Thanks. Really cool plugin. I'll keep at it.

[mpl]

In the latest RS5K manager I added basic stepsequencer tab for related RS5K children/notes. It supposed to work with selected midi take (it handle pools also). Any suggestions welcome.

[Ozman]

Originally Posted by mpl

In the latest RS5K manager I added basic stepsequencer tab for related RS5K children/notes. It supposed to work with selected midi take (it handle pools also). Any suggestions welcome.

Hmm...

Oh, crap..
I was wondering how this works, until I drew out a midi item.

Man, this is SLICK!

Suggestion:

Use either alternative shading or dividers (or something) so one can quickly/easily discern bars. That and maybe, later, play cursor representation (e.g. line, triggered cells lighting up). Just cosmetic stuff.

Man this is awesome.

I can't wait to see where you go with this one

[Ozman]

Also, I just noticed that each pad can have a different step division.

Man, that's tight!

[TonE]

Is there any 8 out version of
Script: mpl_Export selected items to RS5k instances on selected track (drum mode).lua ?
Having 8 out and 16 out versions at least would be great. Just doing modulo 8 or modulo 16 for the item counting, then applying to the sent tracks.

Example:
item 1: goes to out/track 1
item 2: goes to out/track 2
item 3: goes to out ... 3
item 4: goes to out 4
...
item 8: goes to out 8
item 9: goes back to out 1, as we have only 8 outs

If we have e.g. 16 outs, item 17 would go back to out 1. In short, this should use multiple tracks, not a single track. For 8 out case, using 8 tracks. For 16 out case, using 16 tracks. Not sure, maybe this exists already, did not check mpl's stuff for a long time.

[mpl]

You're better to keep your highly "specific" questions out of this thread. Any of your request is a stupid waste of time to read.

[TonE]

Since when is having multiple outputs in a sampler specific? This is just minimum standard. No I will write into this thread, even if you do not want it. You have to read it, hehe, and waste your time.

[mpl]

Good luck with it.

[Ozman]

mpl,..
diggin the updates so far...
this last one really improves the pattern editor's performance.

[mpl]

Originally Posted by Ozman

mpl,..
diggin the updates so far...
this last one really improves the pattern editor's performance.

Seems only you. Be careful btw, there is a Reaper API bug potentially hangs Reaper (this happen to me only while playing): https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=213037

[mccrabney]

would you mind including this layout?

elseif conf.keymode == 7 then -- 8x8, vertical columns
        w_div = 8
        h_div = 8  
        shifts  = { 
                    {0,7},    
                    {0,6}, 
                    {0,5}, 
                    {0,4},
                    {0,3},
                    {0,2},
                    {0,1},
                    {0,0},
                            
                    {1,7},    
                    {1,6}, 
                    {1,5}, 
                    {1,4},
                    {1,3},
                    {1,2},
                    {1,1},
                    {1,0},
					
		    {2,7},    
                    {2,6}, 
                    {2,5}, 
                    {2,4},
                    {2,3},
                    {2,2},
                    {2,1},
                    {2,0},
                            
                    {3,7},    
                    {3,6}, 
                    {3,5}, 
                    {3,4},
                    {3,3},
                    {3,2},
                    {3,1},
                    {3,0},
		
		    {4,7},    
                    {4,6}, 
                    {4,5}, 
                    {4,4},
                    {4,3},
                    {4,2},
                    {4,1},
                    {4,0},
                            
                    {5,7},    
                    {5,6}, 
                    {5,5}, 
                    {5,4},
                    {5,3},
                    {5,2},
                    {5,1},
                    {5,0},
					
		    {6,7},    
                    {6,6}, 
                    {6,5}, 
                    {6,4},
                    {6,3},
                    {6,2},
                    {6,1},
                    {6,0},
                            
                    {7,7},    
                    {7,6}, 
                    {7,5}, 
                    {7,4},
                    {7,3},
                    {7,2},
                    {7,1},
                    {7,0},
                                                                                        
                }  				
      end

[Ozman]

Originally Posted by mpl

Seems only you. Be careful btw, there is a Reaper API bug potentially hangs Reaper (this happen to me only while playing): https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=213037

Thanks for the heads up.

[dupont]

rather confusing.
If there are several MPL instances, according to the track selected, hitting a pad can trigger a reasmaplomatic from another track and sample name triggered does not correspond to the name of the pad.

[mpl]

Originally Posted by dupont

rather confusing.
If there are several MPL instances, according to the track selected, hitting a pad can trigger a reasmaplomatic from another track and sample name triggered does not correspond to the name of the pad.

RS5k triggers MIDI note correspond to current pressed pad to the track armed for MIDI monitoring from Virtual MIDI keyboard, it could be other track which is a MIDI receive relative to parent track, and it can contains multiple samples (layers) as well as instances related to other notes, depends on how you organized routing from parent track.

[J Reverb]

i'm interested in the display of waveform just noticed graphics slow
it all down any thoughts ?
much faster being less the graph maybe the dev's can make
some memory available for MPL no ? respect to the coders get in !

[mccrabney]

MPL, i made it work so that "Script: mpl_Export selected items to RS5k instances on selected track (drum mode).lua" doesn't ask for user input for which midi note to assign.

instead, it references a track which has a dummy JS whose 1 param is controlled by OSC to output the last hit midi note. your script looks at that value and uses that.

it works beautifully.

    -- get base pitch
      for i = 1, reaper.CountTracks(0) do
            inqtrack = reaper.GetTrack(0,i-1)
            _, tr_name = reaper.GetSetMediaTrackInfo_String( inqtrack, 'P_NAME', '', 0 )
            if tr_name:lower():find("inq") then
              val = reaper.TrackFX_GetParam(inqtrack, 0, 1)
              reaper.ShowConsoleMsg("[value] - ")
              reaper.ShowConsoleMsg(val)
              reaper.ShowConsoleMsg("\n")
              end
            end
      base_pitch = math.floor(tonumber(val))

i am using a similar OSC / getparam trick to have my launchpad light up pads corresponding to RS5K's "Note range start" param

[mpl]

Originally Posted by mccrabney

MPL, i made it work so that "Script: mpl_Export selected items to RS5k instances on selected track (drum mode).lua" doesn't ask for user input for which midi note to assign.

instead, it references a track which has a dummy JS whose 1 param is controlled by OSC to output the last hit midi note. your script looks at that value and uses that.

it works beautifully.

    -- get base pitch
      for i = 1, reaper.CountTracks(0) do
            inqtrack = reaper.GetTrack(0,i-1)
            _, tr_name = reaper.GetSetMediaTrackInfo_String( inqtrack, 'P_NAME', '', 0 )
            if tr_name:lower():find("inq") then
              val = reaper.TrackFX_GetParam(inqtrack, 0, 1)
              reaper.ShowConsoleMsg("[value] - ")
              reaper.ShowConsoleMsg(val)
              reaper.ShowConsoleMsg("\n")
              end
            end
      base_pitch = math.floor(tonumber(val))

i am using a similar OSC / getparam trick to have my launchpad light up pads corresponding to RS5K's "Note range start" param

Still no so obvious to me. Ideally if should run a defer loop inside waiting for changes in the MIDI log I requested here:https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=212605

[mccrabney]

maybe i can explain this way -- you know the js "midi examine" ? one of the status byte sliders shows the note number when it receives a midi note. i essentially reference that param and use that as "last touched note" for your script, so i can hit a key/pad and then run your script in order to drop a rs5k instance right there.

in other news, I've also cloned some of your increment/decrement scripts in order to make more (+/-100ms, +/-1 cent, etc for example). if i send them to you will you include them in your additional repo?

[mpl]

Originally Posted by mccrabney

maybe i can explain this way -- you know the js "midi examine" ? one of the status byte sliders shows the note number when it receives a midi note. i essentially reference that param and use that as "last touched note" for your script, so i can hit a key/pad and then run your script in order to drop a rs5k instance right there.

in other news, I've also cloned some of your increment/decrement scripts in order to make more (+/-100ms, +/-1 cent, etc for example). if i send them to you will you include them in your additional repo?

You'd better make pull request right to the github.

As for last touched note, it is exactly as RS5K manager tracker JSFX works, so I understood how it works.