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03-03-2014, 06:13 AM
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#401
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2012
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This is really my first wishlist feature, the timeselection in Reaper is not very userfriendly for me for fast editing. I'd really love to see implemented in Reaper a new type of time selection, something like the Ableton one that is by far the best one imho.
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Any chance to get this one in a future, since the long time request? It will speed up the editing and arranging workflow a lot!
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03-05-2014, 10:45 AM
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#402
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spinlud
This is really my first wishlist feature, the timeselection in Reaper is not very userfriendly for me for fast editing. I'd really love to see implemented in Reaper a new type of time selection, something like the Ableton one that is by far the best one imho.
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Any chance to get this one in a future, since the long time request? It will speed up the editing and arranging workflow a lot!
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Agree, Ableton Live's arranging with its own area selection is really fast..
As for area selection in an editing sense, I have given up and started to use Twisted Wave for Mac,
Surely it would be easy for Reaper to have the Twisted Wave style editing tools built into its timeline so we dont have to go elsewhere?
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03-06-2014, 10:46 AM
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#403
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Human being with feelings
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Actually does Cubase 7 or Studio One have timeline/arrangement selection cursor?
I have used Logic, Ableton, Acid, Reaper, FL etc, and none apart from PT have the selection that you can edit and select (like a 2 track editor)?
Please let this come to Reaper soon...
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03-08-2014, 08:11 AM
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#404
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Yes cubase has it.
You can do something similar in Reaper using alt+right drag but the problem for is that it changes also the range of loop and everytime you have to manually re-adjust it.
I think we actually need a tool for area selection that doesn't change the range of loop.
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03-08-2014, 08:24 AM
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#405
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Human being with feelings
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Hi spinlud. Have you un-checked Options: Loop points linked to time selection?
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03-08-2014, 08:50 AM
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#406
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jackacid
Hi spinlud. Have you un-checked Options: Loop points linked to time selection?
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I was just going to quote this too, but its still not the same as dedicated Area Selection as its the same as the loop points, as it carries on all the way down the screen
I think this is long overdue
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03-08-2014, 09:44 AM
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#408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence
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You can do it in reaper a lot more easier and more faster.
You just need this (require sws extensions last release)->
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...onsolidate.ini
http://youtu.be/1qpCAoNx5cw
Just don't forget to set back your media folder and format for glueing and apply FX after...
PS: the action can support up to 100 tracks, if you want more, just change the number after LOOP in the cycle action
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03-08-2014, 10:16 AM
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#409
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That's cool, thanks. Actually doesn't look faster to me but cool nonetheless, and not slow.
Thanks.
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03-09-2014, 09:16 AM
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#410
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jackacid
Hi spinlud. Have you un-checked Options: Loop points linked to time selection?
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Thanks i didn't check that option, it is a great help of course. For me what i just would like to see is an option for time selection that doesn't automatically fill all the tracks but only the ones you drag with the mouse, like in ableton. The fuction is already there, the alt+right drag is exactly this, but the visual feedback is just a normal time selection with the items where you dragged the mouse selected (if any)...I think it will be more clear if the time selection is restricted only to the area of tracks where you dragged the mouse, like in ableton....just more clear to work in this way imho.
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06-05-2014, 09:37 AM
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#411
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Human being with feelings
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Location: Berlin
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It's time for a bump.
634 votes and counting.
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06-05-2014, 10:54 AM
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#412
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Human being with feelings
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Glad you bumped it. I read through your writeup on the FR when I didn't quite grasp the (full) concept after reading the post here. I would use the hell out of this, can't believe its been posted since 2009? I don't even do 'intense' editing like you guys do, just arranging of guitar parts & midi drums during the writing portion of my songs. This would still be incredibly helpful. I voted.
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06-05-2014, 11:26 AM
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#413
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Human being with feelings
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This kid wanted to vote...
I guess FR with more than x hundred of votes go for next big release like 5.0... hopefully...
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06-05-2014, 11:36 AM
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#414
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Human being with feelings
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I really hope this will be implemented in Reaper 5!
very very Very vEry VeRY (very) useful
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10-15-2014, 05:18 PM
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#415
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Another bump for this. Thanks.
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11-10-2014, 09:24 AM
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#416
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Human being with feelings
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Bump. We need this.
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11-10-2014, 09:28 AM
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#417
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Human being with feelings
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+10000 bump..
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11-10-2014, 10:30 AM
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#418
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kinda OT: Is it just me or is REAPER 5 more a big deal than any previous version? Or is that my "anticipation bias"?
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11-10-2014, 02:56 PM
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#419
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Argitoth
kinda OT: Is it just me or is REAPER 5 more a big deal than any previous version? Or is that my "anticipation bias"?
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things are heating up! really curious to see how things pan out in terms of api and extensions with an sws member at the core of the dev team...
of course last round of pre cycles was almost a year long (dec 10 - aug 11), start to finish! still, kept my interest throughout...
but wow! this is the most popular request i've come across. never seen the feature before, but would surely use. voted.
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11-10-2014, 06:38 PM
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#420
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I only really care about 2 things:
1) I don't care if it's presonus style with different selection areas per track. Just make it so that it doesn't look like I'm selecting time on every track at once. That was a bad design decision.
2) When I select time across more than one track, make both track tcp's selected as well. (or did I miss how to do this?)
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01-14-2015, 09:57 AM
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#421
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As this keeps coming up with people, here's a simple way to implement this. I hope this helps Cockos to decide to finally try and tackle this.
Contexts in mouse modifiers for area selection- Media Item
- Media Item bottom half
- Arrangement View
- Envelope Lane
This could work as the mouse method to selection envelopes and track content across multiple tracks.
Area Selection methods- Select Area
Selects everything on the track, including automation that is hidden. Additional commands could include copy/pasting only automation from the area selection, or only the items without any automation.
- Add to area selection (SHIFT+whatever for example)
This would extend whichever area selection edge is currently closest to the mouse cursor.
NOTE!!!
If the user clicks on a track without an existing area selection, this would add the same area on the clicked-on track to the area selection that already existed elsewhere.
In other words, IN to OUT on track 1, then "Add to area selection" click on track 2, results in area selections between IN and OUT on both track 1 and 2.
- Make additional area selection
Second stage feature set. Most of us would be happy having just one area selection.
Actions
Cut, copy, paste, delete, split.
Then there is creating an area selection with actions.
- Create area selection from item selection
- Create area selection from item selection, excluding tracks with no selected items
- Automation commands we'd need the more advanced automation recording system for. This could be applying changes only to the area selection for example, making the whole system a little more flexible.
Think I've left things out or that what I did include could use a better description ?
Don't hesitate to write your concerns down here.
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01-24-2015, 12:16 AM
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#422
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Human being with feelings
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+1 As a person trying to make the jump from Pro Tools, I would very much appreciate this!
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02-17-2015, 01:59 AM
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#423
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The 5.8 year bump.
Shane
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02-17-2015, 04:47 AM
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#424
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shan
The 5.8 year bump.
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I think, it never will come. Not even in V5.
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02-17-2015, 03:44 PM
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#425
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What I understand of it, I like. I must be missing seeing the videos for lack of having flash.
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02-17-2015, 04:56 PM
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#426
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I don't get it. Everything in that video in post #401 is almost exactly how I edit in Reaper right now with about 3 simple custom actions and some mouse modifier tweaks...
What exactly is it that you guys think you can't do currently? Just not seeing it.
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02-17-2015, 06:33 PM
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#427
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PooFox
What exactly is it that you guys think you can't do currently? Just not seeing it.
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All of this right here. I've done every workaround you can think of the past 8 years. Nothing even remotely comes close unfortunately.
Shane
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02-17-2015, 07:17 PM
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#428
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shan
All of this right here. I've done every workaround you can think of the past 8 years. Nothing even remotely comes close unfortunately.
Shane
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Well that I get. We could use per-track time (area) selection. I doubt I would use it much myself but yea, it's a useful idea.
Editing in Reaper is perfect for me as is. I'd rather eat a shoe than try to edit in Ableton. I've never used ProTools though.
Last edited by foxAsteria; 02-17-2015 at 08:10 PM.
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02-17-2015, 07:57 PM
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#429
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It makes me think first of doing things to more than one envelope at a time. Without requiring an item for copy paste for example, or that features all or nothing aspect.
Side note- Maybe this would go good with a separate undo line for selections or even an easy means of finding and deleting such things from the undo history?
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02-17-2015, 08:10 PM
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#430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FnA
or even an easy means of finding and deleting such things from the undo history?
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Act now and you can be lucky voter number three! http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=4960
Last edited by foxAsteria; 02-17-2015 at 08:44 PM.
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02-17-2015, 08:43 PM
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#432
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Originally Posted by FnA
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Pretty hard to resist...
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08-24-2015, 12:21 AM
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#433
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So this is the semi-anual bump. The issue tracker has been closed, so let's keep the posts coming.
A lot of people are still interested in this optional feature, according to this thread : http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=165428
I think the area selection woul greatly speed up many envelope editing tasks, because it makes envelope selection 1-dimensional and visually intuitive. Selection over multiple tracks is also much more practical.
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08-24-2015, 01:22 AM
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#434
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Human being with feelings
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Bump again from me..
Not to flame or anything but in my post that you link to, it mentions Studio One can do this.
Does Studio One allow you to edit with Area selection on the timeline like an editor? and add audiosuite style fx directly?
I love Reaper, and I can't see any S1 videos or tutorials showing this? and I don't want to install yet another DEMO just to see before jumping in?
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08-24-2015, 04:25 AM
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#435
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Location: Berlin
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Lawrence has or can make a quick demo of that functionality.
Any of your videos have that Lwrence ?
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08-24-2015, 05:19 AM
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#436
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Yes, we need this badly. Didn't happen in v4 and I really thought it was coming in v5 pre-release. I still have my fingers crossed, though.
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08-24-2015, 11:32 PM
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#437
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Human being with feelings
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Let's narrow it down to use cases. It's more than a visual aspect but an optional selection conext all together.
Use cases for me : - Envelope selection
1-dimensional, visually intuitive, probably the only practical method for selecting envelopes across multiple tracks or lanes
- Replaces marquee+time selection for visually intuitive material selection. Copy/paste actions have to include the dead space the user might select around items.
- Fast multiple track selection when making edits
Useful for copying chunks of material, including all the automation, even in the empty space between and around the items.
- Enables intuitive use of future actions for copy/paste/duplicate/fill/deletion of all automation within a selection.
With current selection AND display methods users will be second-guessing and triple-checking whether or not they've made the right selection. Area selection is fast and fool proof.
- Enables use of new automation writing actions that would only work on area selections, thus enabling even more highly selective automation recording and writing.
- Enables edit groups,
the second-most voted on request, due to its intuitive nature and high efficiency. It would be an added tool in our arsenal, not a replacement of any other tools.
Last edited by airon; 09-08-2015 at 01:20 AM.
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09-07-2015, 06:28 AM
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#438
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Finland
Posts: 792
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Surely needed...
Just a moment ago one of my friends called and asked about this.
"PT can do it, why can't reaper?" Since he doesn't want to touch the time selection or loop points, but want's to select areas within the items and delete them.
It's really time to get this to Reaper... please?
PS: I can never fathom as to why this isn't implemented after 6 years...
Last edited by Icchan; 09-07-2015 at 07:20 AM.
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09-07-2015, 10:59 AM
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#439
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 652
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icchan
PS: I can never fathom as to why this isn't implemented after 6 years...
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Unfortunately ... I think, if it's is not implemented yet, it "never" will.
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09-08-2015, 01:15 AM
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#440
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Human being with feelings
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Gives us some situations where you will use this, or think you can put this to good use.
I listed mine, let's hear yours, in bullet points if you please.
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