Media Explorer- User Columns- Not Persistent

simonoflegend · 10-01-2021, 10:02 AM

User Columns added to Media Explorer, that are not "IXML:USER:xxxx' are not persistent.
On relaunch of Reaper the added columns are not displayed or visible in the menu to set to display.

Reaper Version 6.36 Windowsx64
Repro- 100% multiple PC installs.

-Add User Column
-BWF:OriginatorReference
Column is successfully added, rescan of data, populates column. Good
-Save Project, quit Reaper, Relaunch Reaper.
Column is not longer displayed or visible to set to display in Media Explorer Menu.

Investigation performed

The Reaper.ini does in the 'reaper_explorer' section have the data related to the previously added user columns.
That are not displayed on restart of Reaper.
All IXML:USER columns added are displayed.

Creating a database 'ReaperFilelist' when the columns are visible, does include the columns in the list, on examination of the txt. However on Restart they are not visible in Media Explorer.
Creating a new 'ReaperFileList' after restart when Media Explore fails to display the added User columns. The 'ReaperFileList' txt does not contain the previously created user columns.

Expected behavior
Any added User Column added to Media Explorer is persistent.

Reaper ini section

Quote:

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escription
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escription
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schwa · 10-06-2021, 08:31 AM

The media explorer only supports 32 user-configurable columns, it looks like the BWF column you added is the 33rd one. We should have an error message pop up rather than the add column dialog if you try to add more than 32.

simonoflegend · 10-07-2021, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schwa

The media explorer only supports 32 user-configurable columns, it looks like the BWF column you added is the 33rd one. We should have an error message pop up rather than the add column dialog if you try to add more than 32.

Thank you for the information Schwa.

Can you confirm this is a limit of Media Explorer or the Menu system ?

A suggestion

I need to be able to view metadata across multiple Metadata Schema and file formats, 32+ fields. And generate a fully searchable ReaperFileList (Database) to verify successful embedding of rendered Metadata in multiple file formats.

It would be good if Media Explorer could store/recall, Sets of User Added Columns or Sets of Visible Column Views, with columns in the user determined display order.

So a warning - you have reached the limit of addable to Media Explorer User Columns of 32, Start a New Set [Y][N],to add more User Columns. A limit of 1 set of 32 User Columns is visible in Media Explorer at a time.

Thank you again.