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01-13-2020, 01:44 PM
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#5961
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkybot
The changes aren't huge so when it comes time to update, it's just changing a few characters in some spots.
Cragster, if you look at my post, you should be able to make the changes yourself if you just follow the same conventions of where quotes, pipes, and 1-8's go. Compare to the mcu.zon and just make your file look similar.
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the changes aren't huge IF you're on the forum here every single day and oftentimes ALL day because things can change so quickly. Otherwise they start to add up so it is what it is. Personally I really have no need to stay up to date at all because I love how my setup is now and wouldn't want anything to change....well except master meter on the ProX
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01-13-2020, 02:14 PM
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#5962
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
the changes aren't huge IF you're on the forum here every single day and oftentimes ALL day because things can change so quickly. Otherwise they start to add up so it is what it is. Personally I really have no need to stay up to date at all because I love how my setup is now and wouldn't want anything to change....well except master meter on the ProX
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Oh, I totally get it. I just meant when we do get further along, it won't be a big update to get the syntasx working again.
For my actual music work, I'm still using the old Eucon method over the CSI implementation for the same reason: it just works for what I need so I'm not ready to update yet.
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01-13-2020, 02:16 PM
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#5963
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cragster
I got ya.thanks .slight changes and updates I think I can handle. Well I hope. Been looking at ur file thanks for the help
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Cragster, this is probably so obvious it doesn't need pointing out, but I'm the "process guy" at work so I will anyway just in case: you'll need to rename the extensions on those files from .txt to .mst and .zon respectively. I'm sure the extensions were changed to allow them to be uploaded here so just don't forget that step if you take a stab at updating the zon yourself.
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01-13-2020, 02:30 PM
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#5964
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkybot
Cragster, this is probably so obvious it doesn't need pointing out, but I'm the "process guy" at work so I will anyway just in case: you'll need to rename the extensions on those files from .txt to .mst and .zon respectively. I'm sure the extensions were changed to allow them to be uploaded here so just don't forget that step if you take a stab at updating the zon yourself.
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oh yea, I forgot to mention that, thank you.
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01-13-2020, 02:58 PM
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#5965
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Faderport v2 Single Fader
Hello,
I've been following along for the last month or so and it really is great to see so much amazing collaboration.
Yesterday I started building a mapping for my Faderport v2 single fader version. I'm in discovery mode at the moment, trying to understand how this stuff hangs together. I randomly chose to use FP2's MCU Logic mode and have had some success with mapping the transport and some of the basic buttons, which is great. But, I have found that the MIDI that comes out of all of the FP2 modes is inconsistent.
Question 1
I have been having some problems with the CSI Actions, in fact in most cases I ended up using the reaper action
Code:
This works
Solo Reaper "40281"
This doesn't
Solo TrackSolo
Should TrackSolo be working at the moment? Does it have to be in a specific Zone?
Question 2
Working with the solo button again
Code:
Solo button midi
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 08 7F
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 08 00
My Solo Widget
Widget Solo
Press 90 08 7f
FB_TwoState 90 08 7f 90 08 00
WidgetEnd
This works fine
SHIFT & Solo button midi
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 47 7F
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 08 7F
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 08 00
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 47 00
How do I write a Widget that can handle two sets of midi (SHIFT #47 & Solo #8)?
Question 3
Faders, or more accurately A Fader.
Most of the examples I have seen are for controllers with a bunch of faders, I only have one and I cant for the life of work out how the Widget and Action need to be configured.
Code:
The fader midi looks like this
21:28:28.135 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 70 14
21:28:28.155 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 60 17
21:28:28.175 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 00 1B
21:28:28.195 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 20 1E
21:28:28.215 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 10 21
21:28:28.235 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 30 23
Ive tried loads of permutations of channel in the IncludedZones Section
Zone Home
IncludedZones
"Buttons|"
"channel|"
"channel|1"
"channel|1-1"
"channel"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
I tried a bunch of permutations of Zone "Channel|", with and without the pipe, with and without TrackNavigator but no luck.
And in the mst file I tried
Widget Fader
....
and
Widget Fader1
....
But no luck. The fader is not for moving!
Needless to say any advice, help, examples would be very gratefully received.
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01-13-2020, 03:04 PM
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#5966
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkybot
Cragster, this is probably so obvious it doesn't need pointing out, but I'm the "process guy" at work so I will anyway just in case: you'll need to rename the extensions on those files from .txt to .mst and .zon respectively. I'm sure the extensions were changed to allow them to be uploaded here so just don't forget that step if you take a stab at updating the zon yourself.
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Yes thanks I got that.i did do that my first go around when you guys found out for me that I was using outdated files.i surely do appreciate you guys looking out for me on that. And when it comes to me on this if you ever have some advice that u think goes without saying say it anyway. I'll take it and appreciate it !!! Been using reaper a long time but this control surface CSI stuff I'm really new to.
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01-13-2020, 03:06 PM
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#5967
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
oh yea, I forgot to mention that, thank you.
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Thank you for your help. I'll post how it goes
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01-13-2020, 03:42 PM
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#5968
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnharkinz
Hello,
I've been following along for the last month or so and it really is great to see so much amazing collaboration.
Yesterday I started building a mapping for my Faderport v2 single fader version. I'm in discovery mode at the moment, trying to understand how this stuff hangs together. I randomly chose to use FP2's MCU Logic mode and have had some success with mapping the transport and some of the basic buttons, which is great. But, I have found that the MIDI that comes out of all of the FP2 modes is inconsistent.
Question 1
I have been having some problems with the CSI Actions, in fact in most cases I ended up using the reaper action
Code:
This works
Solo Reaper "40281"
This doesn't
Solo TrackSolo
Should TrackSolo be working at the moment? Does it have to be in a specific Zone?
Question 2
Working with the solo button again
Code:
Solo button midi
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 08 7F
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 08 00
My Solo Widget
Widget Solo
Press 90 08 7f
FB_TwoState 90 08 7f 90 08 00
WidgetEnd
This works fine
SHIFT & Solo button midi
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 47 7F
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 08 7F
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 08 00
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 47 00
How do I write a Widget that can handle two sets of midi (SHIFT #47 & Solo #8)?
Question 3
Faders, or more accurately A Fader.
Most of the examples I have seen are for controllers with a bunch of faders, I only have one and I cant for the life of work out how the Widget and Action need to be configured.
Code:
The fader midi looks like this
21:28:28.135 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 70 14
21:28:28.155 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 60 17
21:28:28.175 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 00 1B
21:28:28.195 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 20 1E
21:28:28.215 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 10 21
21:28:28.235 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 30 23
Ive tried loads of permutations of channel in the IncludedZones Section
Zone Home
IncludedZones
"Buttons|"
"channel|"
"channel|1"
"channel|1-1"
"channel"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
I tried a bunch of permutations of Zone "Channel|", with and without the pipe, with and without TrackNavigator but no luck.
And in the mst file I tried
Widget Fader
....
and
Widget Fader1
....
But no luck. The fader is not for moving!
Needless to say any advice, help, examples would be very gratefully received.
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If it means anything, I couldn't get the FP2 to work at all for me. It seemed like the midi values kept changing, so I eventually gave up. If you do get it working, please do share!
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01-13-2020, 04:00 PM
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#5969
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I was just about to ask for help getting sends to work, but I figured it out. Therefore, next question. Is there a way to bind specific FX parameters, if FX is present on a track without opening the FX?
Since Reaper added "Show embedded UI im MPC" I have used a HP, and LP filter and a compressor appearing per default on new tracks. It would be fantastic if the frequencies of the two bands and the threshold of the compressor could be binded to three rotary encoders upon track selection. Is this possible?
What I would like to accomplish is something like thes piece of fake code below:
Code:
Zone "Channel|"
SelectedTrackNavigator
LayerB_Fader TrackVolume // I use the fader for writing automation only, since there is not yet soft takeover
LayerB_Rotary1 TrackVolume "1"
LayerB_Rotary2 TrackPan "0"
LayerB_Rotary3 FX: ReaEQ Band1Frequency
LayerB_Rotary4 FX: ReaEQ Band2Frequency
LayerB_Rotary5 FX: ReaComp Threshold
IncludedZones
"Send|"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Zone "Send|1-3"
SelectedTrackNavigator
LayerB_Send| TrackSendVolume
ZoneEnd
I ended up geving new names to LayerB_Rotary6, 7 and 8; LayerB_Send1, 2 and 3, to get the sends to work. Is there another way?
I use a XTouchMini if that is of any importance.
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01-13-2020, 04:37 PM
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#5970
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So my understanding of the single channel FaderPort is that it's meant to control the selected track in your DAW. This means you'll want to use "SelectedTrackNavigator" a lot. Here's some stuff to try...
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnharkinz
Question 1
I have been having some problems with the CSI Actions, in fact in most cases I ended up using the reaper action
Code:
This works
Solo Reaper "40281"
This doesn't
Solo TrackSolo
Should TrackSolo be working at the moment? Does it have to be in a specific Zone?
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Here's what my Steinberg CMC-QC zone looks like (the Widget name is EQ but I'm using that button for Track Solo of the selected track).
Code:
Zone "Buttons|"
SelectedTrackNavigator
EQ TrackSolo
ZoneEnd
Are you using SelectedTrackNavigator? That would probably be the ideal "navigator" for a one channel surface.
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnharkinz
Question 2
Working with the solo button again
Code:
Solo button midi
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 08 7F
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 08 00
My Solo Widget
Widget Solo
Press 90 08 7f
FB_TwoState 90 08 7f 90 08 00
WidgetEnd
This works fine
SHIFT & Solo button midi
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 47 7F
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 08 7F
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 08 00
21:19:05.134 From PreSonus FP2 Note On 1 90 47 00
How do I write a Widget that can handle two sets of midi (SHIFT #47 & Solo #8)?
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What that looks like to me is the Shift Button MIDI which is 90 47 7F (press) and 90 47 00 (release). And the Solo Button MIDI which is 90 08 7F/00 (press/release). So they're two completely independent button presses if true. So what you could do in that case is create two separate widgets. One for solo, and one for shift. Then use the shift "modifier" in the zone to combine them as needed.
.mst code...
Code:
Widget Solo
Press 90 08 7f
FB_TwoState 90 08 7f 90 08 00
WidgetEnd
Widget Shift
Press 90 47 7f
FB_TwoState 90 47 7f 90 08 00
WidgetEnd
Then in your Zone, you would have something like this...
Code:
Zone "Buttons|"
SelectedTrackNavigator
Solo TrackSolo
Shift Shift
Shift+Solo [Some other Reaper Action]
ZoneEnd
At that point, you could combine Shift with as many other buttons as you want.
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnharkinz
Question 3
Faders, or more accurately A Fader.
Most of the examples I have seen are for controllers with a bunch of faders, I only have one and I cant for the life of work out how the Widget and Action need to be configured.
Code:
The fader midi looks like this
21:28:28.135 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 70 14
21:28:28.155 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 60 17
21:28:28.175 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 00 1B
21:28:28.195 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 20 1E
21:28:28.215 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 10 21
21:28:28.235 From PreSonus FP2 Pitch Wheel 1 E0 30 23
Ive tried loads of permutations of channel in the IncludedZones Section
Zone Home
IncludedZones
"Buttons|"
"channel|"
"channel|1"
"channel|1-1"
"channel"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
I tried a bunch of permutations of Zone "Channel|", with and without the pipe, with and without TrackNavigator but no luck.
And in the mst file I tried
Widget Fader
....
and
Widget Fader1
....
But no luck. The fader is not for moving!
Needless to say any advice, help, examples would be very gratefully received.
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Because you only have one fader, try this (assuming your fader widget is named "Fader" and not "Fader1"):
Code:
Zone "Fader"
SelectedTrackNavigator
Fader TrackVolume
ZoneEnd
Then be sure to add that "Fader" zone to your "Home" zone.
If you get stuck, post the complete .mst and .zon files in here and someone might be able to help.
Last edited by Funkybot; 01-13-2020 at 04:43 PM.
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01-13-2020, 04:45 PM
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#5971
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AbbeH, you want SelectedTrackFXNavigator rather than FocusedFXNavigator...or something like that. I forget the exact syntax now, but you should have an example of it in the provided zon files. Basically instead of showing fx params when the FX is focused, it will show all mapped params when a track is selected. You just have to be careful the params don't collide.
I use it, it's awesome for a kind of "console" workflow. Here's a little video that very briefly showcases how I use it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRU6hBRXnUQ&t=397s
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01-13-2020, 06:17 PM
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#5972
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinGShore
Success!!! No more crash! That said none of my tracks in Reaper are appearing in Eucon. Scribble strips are blank, and faders, knobs, solo, and mutes don't do anything. If I go into the assign tab in the Eucontrol settings the track list is empty if I try to lock a track to a fader (the only options I'm seeing in the dropdowns are auto-assigned, attentioned track, and blank strip).
Soft key assignments are working though, and if I run the no-op action in Reaper I can see stuff in the console output when I move the faders, so there is definitely communication happening between Reaper and Eucon.
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Been thinking about this, pretty sure it is in the .zon file.
Could you please post the contents of EuCon.zon ?
Thanks
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01-13-2020, 06:20 PM
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#5973
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
AbbeH, you want SelectedTrackFXNavigator rather than FocusedFXNavigator...or something like that. I forget the exact syntax now, but you should have an example of it in the provided zon files. Basically instead of showing fx params when the FX is focused, it will show all mapped params when a track is selected. You just have to be careful the params don't collide.
I use it, it's awesome for a kind of "console" workflow. Here's a little video that very briefly showcases how I use it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRU6hBRXnUQ&t=397s
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Fabulous video !!
Thanks man, it's great to see how it actually gets used in the real world.
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01-13-2020, 06:23 PM
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#5974
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AbbeH
I was just about to ask for help getting sends to work, but I figured it out. Therefore, next question. Is there a way to bind specific FX parameters, if FX is present on a track without opening the FX?
Since Reaper added "Show embedded UI im MPC" I have used a HP, and LP filter and a compressor appearing per default on new tracks. It would be fantastic if the frequencies of the two bands and the threshold of the compressor could be binded to three rotary encoders upon track selection. Is this possible?
What I would like to accomplish is something like thes piece of fake code below:
Code:
Zone "Channel|"
SelectedTrackNavigator
LayerB_Fader TrackVolume // I use the fader for writing automation only, since there is not yet soft takeover
LayerB_Rotary1 TrackVolume "1"
LayerB_Rotary2 TrackPan "0"
LayerB_Rotary3 FX: ReaEQ Band1Frequency
LayerB_Rotary4 FX: ReaEQ Band2Frequency
LayerB_Rotary5 FX: ReaComp Threshold
IncludedZones
"Send|"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Zone "Send|1-3"
SelectedTrackNavigator
LayerB_Send| TrackSendVolume
ZoneEnd
I ended up geving new names to LayerB_Rotary6, 7 and 8; LayerB_Send1, 2 and 3, to get the sends to work. Is there another way?
I use a XTouchMini if that is of any importance.
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You will need separate .zon files for ReaEQ and ReaComp -- for FX the Zone name is critical -- it must match the FX name exactly.
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01-14-2020, 01:36 AM
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#5975
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
Here are my latest files, let me know if they are helpful.
Note this is for the new firmware. So you'll see F1-F8 for the F buttons plus F1L2 etc for the 2nd layer added in the new firmware. Also there are 5 "blank" buttons that are defined.
also note that there are several custom actions referenced, so if some stuff isn't working you'll have to go through everything. I forget now, but I think I have a lot of them, haha. Just ask me anything
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Ok so I got your files in for my proX and took a shot at updating them myself using the quotations and all that funkybot suggested and I got something !! It's not all right but I got some buttons working and it plays but none of the tracks are showing up and no display. No meter. Nothing happening on the fader part of my surface(that being the icon proX).but the master fader is working.so I did something right.i just didnt do evrything write lol.also a Learn Mode page popped up.dont quite know what that is .I'm gonna look over the zone file again and see if i missed any changes.but hey I'm halfway there ha.Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
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01-14-2020, 05:52 AM
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#5976
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkybot
If you get stuck, post the complete .mst and .zon files in here and someone might be able to help.
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That's great, a definate nudge in the right direction. I'll have a tinker with it again this evening.
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01-14-2020, 07:03 AM
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#5977
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Hi! I recently got my sends to work, but now they stopped working. Is there something wrong with my zon-file regarding the sends?
Code:
Zone Home
OnTrackSelection MapSelectedTrackSendsToWidgets
OnTrackSelection MapSelectedTrackFXToWidgets
IncludedZones
"LayerA_Buttons|"
"LayerB_Buttons|"
"Channel|"
"Mix|1-8"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Zone "LayerA_Buttons|"
SelectedTrackNavigator
LayerA_Fader TrackVolume
LayerA_LowerButton1 TrackBank "-8"
LayerA_LowerButton2 TrackBank "8"
LayerA_LowerButton3 Reaper "40172"
LayerA_LowerButton4 Reaper "40173"
LayerA_LowerButton5 CycleTimeline
LayerA_LowerButton6 Stop
LayerA_LowerButton7 Play
LayerA_LowerButton8 Record
ZoneEnd
Zone "LayerB_Buttons|"
SelectedTrackNavigator
LayerB_LowerButton1 NoAction
LayerB_LowerButton2 NoAction
LayerB_LowerButton3 Reaper "40172"
LayerB_LowerButton4 Reaper "40173"
LayerB_LowerButton5 CycleTimeline
LayerB_LowerButton6 Stop
LayerB_LowerButton7 Play
LayerB_LowerButton8 Record
LayerB_UpperButton1 TrackSolo
ZoneEnd
Zone "Channel|"
SelectedTrackNavigator
LayerB_Fader TrackVolume
Volume TrackVolume "1"
Pan TrackPan "0"
IncludedZones
"Send|1-3"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Zone "Send|"
SelectedTrackNavigator
Send| TrackSendVolume
SendPush| TrackSendMute
ZoneEnd
Zone "Mix|"
TrackNavigator
LayerA_UpperButton| TrackSolo
Rotary| TrackVolume "1"
ZoneEnd
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01-14-2020, 10:39 AM
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#5978
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkybot
Cragster, this is probably so obvious it doesn't need pointing out, but I'm the "process guy" at work so I will anyway just in case: you'll need to rename the extensions on those files from .txt to .mst and .zon respectively. I'm sure the extensions were changed to allow them to be uploaded here so just don't forget that step if you take a stab at updating the zon yourself.
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I gave it a go updating the zone file.idk i got buttons to work but no faders(except the master fader works) not loading tracks..nothing on the display..no track names.no meters...basicly the whole one side of the surface (qcon proX) not working ?? im referring to the included MCU zone file and the only differences i see are the spacings of all the words and stuff. does that matter?.i guess it wouldnt if some of the buttons do work. also what is the learn mode page that keeps popping up ? sry for all the questions .just determined to get this and eventually add an extender.once i get everything working then ill try changing some buttons to actions of my liking as this is poetnprophets files im using. thanks you guys for any feedback and for all the help so far
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01-14-2020, 10:44 AM
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#5979
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[code]
Zone Home
IncludedZones
"Buttons|"
"Channel|1-8"
"MasterChannel|"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Zone "Buttons|"
Shift Shift
Option Option
Control Control
Alt Alt
Blank2 ToggleLearnMode
Blank3 Reaper "41665"
Shift+Blank3 Reaper "40199"
Blank4 GoPage "TCP"
Blank4 Reaper "40454"
Blank4 Reaper "_47c39c29321e2d4799c61af0c2c0e008"
Blank5 GoPage "Console"
Blank5 Reaper "40455"
Send Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_5"
ChannelLeft TrackBank "-1"
ChannelRight TrackBank "1"
BankLeft TrackBank "-16"
BankRight TrackBank "16"
TimeDisplay TimeDisplay
smpteBeats CycleTimeDisplayModes
Last Reaper "41043"
Next Reaper "41042"
Stop Stop
Stop Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_7"
Play Play
Play Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_7"
Record Reaper "1013"
Record Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_7"
Shift+Record Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_6"
F1 Reaper "42073"
F2 Reaper "40041"
F3 Reaper "_RSe3ad1140dc733c3ccfe65a67ec53bfc634535821"
F4 Reaper "_S&M_SHOWNOTESHELP"
F5 Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_4"
F6 Reaper "_44924b08811f144e9f88ca3a2918ff48"
Read TrackAutoMode "1"
Shift+Read GlobalAutoMode "1"
Write TrackAutoMode "3"
Shift+Write GlobalAutoMode "3"
Trim TrackAutoMode "0"
Shift+Trim GlobalAutoMode "0"
Touch TrackAutoMode "2"
Shift+Touch GlobalAutoMode "2"
Latch TrackAutoMode "4"
Shift+Latch GlobalAutoMode "4"
Save Reaper "40026"
Shift+Save Reaper "40022"
Undo Reaper "40029"
Shift+Undo Reaper "40030"
Normal Reaper "_99cf65b265098c499591aa4cf8bafcab"
Marker Reaper "40172"
Option+Marker Reaper "40174"
Shift+Marker Reaper "40157"
Loop CycleTimeline
Click Reaper "40364"
Blank1 Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_1"
EQ Reaper "41757"
Up Reaper "_da961e76f4ab7d47be2d800d188c934f"
Down Reaper "_02153033d77e5145a4bf075329c64327"
Left Reaper "_da961e76f4ab7d47be2d800d188c934f"
Right Reaper "_02153033d77e5145a4bf075329c64327"
JogWheelRotaryCW Reaper "41667"
JogWheelRotaryCCW Reaper "41666"
/MasterFader MasterTrackVolume
ZoneEnd
Zone "Channel|1-8"
TrackNavigator
VUMeter| TrackOutputMeterMaxPeakLR
/VUMeter| TrackOutputMeterAverageLR
DisplayUpper| TrackNameDisplay
DisplayLower| TrackPanDisplay
TrackTouch+DisplayLower| TrackVolumeDisplay
RotaryPush| GoZone PanWidth|
Rotary| TrackPan "0"
RecordArm| TrackRecordArm
Solo| TrackSolo
Mute| TrackMute
Select| TrackUniqueSelect
Shift+Select| TrackRangeSelect
Control+Select| TrackSelect
Shift+Control+Select| TogglePin
Option+Select| TrackFolderDive
Fader| TrackVolume
TrackTouch+Fader| TrackVolume
FaderTouch| TrackTouch
ZoneEnd
Zone "Pan|1-8"
TrackNavigator
Rotary| TrackPan "0"
RotaryPush| GoZone PanWidth|
ZoneEnd
Zone "PanWidth|1-8"
TrackNavigator
Rotary| TrackPanWidth "1"
RotaryPush| GoZone Pan|
ZoneEnd
Zone "MasterChannel|"
MasterTrackNavigator
MasterFader TrackVolume
MasterFaderTouch TrackTouch
ZoneEnd
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01-14-2020, 10:46 AM
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#5980
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thats my zon file.sry i cant figure out how to out it in the reply in code window like you guys do.im just not a computer guy. bare with me please
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01-14-2020, 10:48 AM
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#5981
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cragster
I gave it a go updating the zone file.idk i got buttons to work but no faders(except the master fader works) not loading tracks..nothing on the display..no track names.no meters...basicly the whole one side of the surface (qcon proX) not working ?? im referring to the included MCU zone file and the only differences i see are the spacings of all the words and stuff. does that matter?.i guess it wouldnt if some of the buttons do work. also what is the learn mode page that keeps popping up ? sry for all the questions .just determined to get this and eventually add an extender.once i get everything working then ill try changing some buttons to actions of my liking as this is poetnprophets files im using. thanks you guys for any feedback and for all the help so far
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There's a difficult to find "Learn Mode" for this. Reason it's hard to find: the Learn Mode screen is very, very buggy and incomplete. It's crashed Reaper on me more than a few times. BUT!...it's super handy for troubleshooting.
Try this:
1. Open Reaper
2. Open the Actions list
3. Type in "No-op" and run that action - this opens the Learn Mode
On that screen, there's a checkbox on the bottom left that says "Show Input from Surfaces." If you check that and move a fader or press a button on your surface, you should see the action appear in the monitor window that shows up (sometimes it's behind another window so you may need to move the Learn screen around if you don't see the monitor window).
Now...if you see input from the fader, that's a good start. It means CSI and the Surface are talking to one another. Then, it's likely just a .zon issue.
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01-14-2020, 10:56 AM
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#5982
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cragster
Ok so I got your files in for my proX and took a shot at updating them myself using the quotations and all that funkybot suggested and I got something !! It's not all right but I got some buttons working and it plays but none of the tracks are showing up and no display. No meter. Nothing happening on the fader part of my surface(that being the icon proX).but the master fader is working.so I did something right.i just didnt do evrything write lol.also a Learn Mode page popped up.dont quite know what that is .I'm gonna look over the zone file again and see if i missed any changes.but hey I'm halfway there ha.Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
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Oh yea, stay away from Learn mode for now.
What's your MST file look like?
Are you on the new Firmware yet for the ProX?
What mode on the ProX are you in? You want MCP mode.
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01-14-2020, 11:01 AM
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#5983
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 13
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Refreshing CSI config
Hi, is there a quick way to refresh the zon and may files so I can speed up my feedback loop?
I'm currently restarting Reaper each time I change a value to test.
Cheers,
John
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01-14-2020, 11:08 AM
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#5984
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnharkinz
Hi, is there a quick way to refresh the zon and may files so I can speed up my feedback loop?
I'm currently restarting Reaper each time I change a value to test.
Cheers,
John
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you should just be able to open and close the CSI dialog box from preferences (just open it, then close it), the surfaces should refresh based on file changes.
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01-14-2020, 11:10 AM
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#5985
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Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
Fabulous video !!
Thanks man, it's great to see how it actually gets used in the real world.
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thank you, and as always thank you for this amazing system. I can't praise it enough, seriously.
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01-14-2020, 11:20 AM
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#5986
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Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Inman, SC USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
Oh yea, stay away from Learn mode for now.
What's your MST file look like?
Are you on the new Firmware yet for the ProX?
What mode on the ProX are you in? You want MCP mode.
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Thanks all. Yes I updated the firmware and I am using the new firmware mst file and zone file that u gave me.just one side of the surface is working.fader side and display is not. And I will do what funkybot suggested and see what's what.when I had that learn mode page open I was touching and moving faders and it was showing up in those columns on the learn mode page so I think they are talking just not working but I'll double check with funkybot method. Unfortunately I'm off to work so I'll give it a go later.work just gets in the way of everything lol. Thanks all
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01-14-2020, 11:22 AM
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#5987
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
Oh yea, stay away from Learn mode for now.
What's your MST file look like?
Are you on the new Firmware yet for the ProX?
What mode on the ProX are you in? You want MCP mode.
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Oh and yes in MCU mode on the prox
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01-14-2020, 11:23 AM
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#5988
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cragster
Thanks all. Yes I updated the firmware and I am using the new firmware mst file and zone file that u gave me.just one side of the surface is working.fader side and display is not. And I will do what funkybot suggested and see what's what.when I had that learn mode page open I was touching and moving faders and it was showing up in those columns on the learn mode page so I think they are talking just not working but I'll double check with funkybot method. Unfortunately I'm off to work so I'll give it a go later.work just gets in the way of everything lol. Thanks all
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Ok, do you have the files in the correct folders?
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01-14-2020, 11:27 AM
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#5989
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
Posts: 11,570
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cragster
Code:
Zone Home
IncludedZones
"Buttons|"
"Channel|1-8"
"MasterChannel|"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Zone "Buttons|"
Shift Shift
Option Option
Control Control
Alt Alt
Blank2 ToggleLearnMode
Blank3 Reaper "41665"
Shift+Blank3 Reaper "40199"
Blank4 GoPage "TCP"
Blank4 Reaper "40454"
Blank4 Reaper "_47c39c29321e2d4799c61af0c2c0e008"
Blank5 GoPage "Console"
Blank5 Reaper "40455"
Send Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_5"
ChannelLeft TrackBank "-1"
ChannelRight TrackBank "1"
BankLeft TrackBank "-16"
BankRight TrackBank "16"
TimeDisplay TimeDisplay
smpteBeats CycleTimeDisplayModes
Last Reaper "41043"
Next Reaper "41042"
Stop Stop
Stop Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_7"
Play Play
Play Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_7"
Record Reaper "1013"
Record Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_7"
Shift+Record Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_6"
F1 Reaper "42073"
F2 Reaper "40041"
F3 Reaper "_RSe3ad1140dc733c3ccfe65a67ec53bfc634535821"
F4 Reaper "_S&M_SHOWNOTESHELP"
F5 Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_4"
F6 Reaper "_44924b08811f144e9f88ca3a2918ff48"
Read TrackAutoMode "1"
Shift+Read GlobalAutoMode "1"
Write TrackAutoMode "3"
Shift+Write GlobalAutoMode "3"
Trim TrackAutoMode "0"
Shift+Trim GlobalAutoMode "0"
Touch TrackAutoMode "2"
Shift+Touch GlobalAutoMode "2"
Latch TrackAutoMode "4"
Shift+Latch GlobalAutoMode "4"
Save Reaper "40026"
Shift+Save Reaper "40022"
Undo Reaper "40029"
Shift+Undo Reaper "40030"
Normal Reaper "_99cf65b265098c499591aa4cf8bafcab"
Marker Reaper "40172"
Option+Marker Reaper "40174"
Shift+Marker Reaper "40157"
Loop CycleTimeline
Click Reaper "40364"
Blank1 Reaper "_S&M_CYCLACTION_1"
EQ Reaper "41757"
Up Reaper "_da961e76f4ab7d47be2d800d188c934f"
Down Reaper "_02153033d77e5145a4bf075329c64327"
Left Reaper "_da961e76f4ab7d47be2d800d188c934f"
Right Reaper "_02153033d77e5145a4bf075329c64327"
JogWheelRotaryCW Reaper "41667"
JogWheelRotaryCCW Reaper "41666"
/MasterFader MasterTrackVolume
ZoneEnd
Zone "Channel|1-8"
TrackNavigator
VUMeter| TrackOutputMeterMaxPeakLR
/VUMeter| TrackOutputMeterAverageLR
DisplayUpper| TrackNameDisplay
DisplayLower| TrackPanDisplay
TrackTouch+DisplayLower| TrackVolumeDisplay
RotaryPush| GoZone PanWidth|
Rotary| TrackPan "0"
RecordArm| TrackRecordArm
Solo| TrackSolo
Mute| TrackMute
Select| TrackUniqueSelect
Shift+Select| TrackRangeSelect
Control+Select| TrackSelect
Shift+Control+Select| TogglePin
Option+Select| TrackFolderDive
Fader| TrackVolume
TrackTouch+Fader| TrackVolume
FaderTouch| TrackTouch
ZoneEnd
Zone "Pan|1-8"
TrackNavigator
Rotary| TrackPan "0"
RotaryPush| GoZone PanWidth|
ZoneEnd
Zone "PanWidth|1-8"
TrackNavigator
Rotary| TrackPanWidth "1"
RotaryPush| GoZone Pan|
ZoneEnd
Zone "MasterChannel|"
MasterTrackNavigator
MasterFader TrackVolume
MasterFaderTouch TrackTouch
ZoneEnd
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Just change:
to:
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01-14-2020, 11:34 AM
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#5990
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Inman, SC USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
Ok, do you have the files in the correct folders?
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Using the show reaper resource action I put the mst widget file in surfaces/midi folder.the zone file in the zones/included prox folder that also has a reacomp zone file in it.
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01-14-2020, 11:43 AM
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#5991
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Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Inman, SC USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
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Ohhhh yea!!!! Thanks Geoff you are the man. That did it.faders and all working. Gonna late for work now lol but dam worth it.all seems to working .I'll go thru evrything later.thanks EVERYBODY for help so far!! I really really appreciate
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01-14-2020, 11:46 AM
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#5992
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Location: Inman, SC USA
Posts: 873
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
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Should I delete all the 1-8's through out the zone file ??
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01-14-2020, 12:25 PM
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#5993
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See, this is why I am afraid to update....even just a few things could be big trouble for me and I really don't have the time to trial and error what is already a perfectly working system. On the one hand, it is beneficial to stay up to date so the changes are small, but on the other hand who can keep up with EVERYTHING??
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01-14-2020, 12:48 PM
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#5994
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
Posts: 11,570
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cragster
Should I delete all the 1-8's through out the zone file ??
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No.
Ones that end in "|" will be used as included Zones, the number of Zones will be stated where they are included - "Buttons|", "Channel|", "MasterChannel|" are all included in "Home".
Ones that end with something like "Pan|1-8" are stand alone -- in this case 8 standalone Pan Zones will be generated.
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01-14-2020, 12:48 PM
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#5995
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
See, this is why I am afraid to update....even just a few things could be big trouble for me and I really don't have the time to trial and error what is already a perfectly working system. On the one hand, it is beneficial to stay up to date so the changes are small, but on the other hand who can keep up with EVERYTHING??
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Yup, this will all smooth out at the point we go beta.
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01-14-2020, 01:18 PM
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#5996
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Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Inman, SC USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
See, this is why I am afraid to update....even just a few things could be big trouble for me and I really don't have the time to trial and error what is already a perfectly working system. On the one hand, it is beneficial to stay up to date so the changes are small, but on the other hand who can keep up with EVERYTHING??
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Hearing you. I cant imagine evrything you guys went through over the time it took to build this thing. My hats off to you all. Great job. Amazing !!btw is this project still accepting donations ? You all helped me and I wanna give a little back. Since I cant knowledge wise
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01-14-2020, 02:11 PM
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#5997
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01-14-2020, 03:22 PM
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#5998
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cragster
Hearing you. I cant imagine evrything you guys went through over the time it took to build this thing. My hats off to you all. Great job. Amazing !!btw is this project still accepting donations ? You all helped me and I wanna give a little back. Since I cant knowledge wise
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yes, donate donate donate! I hope everyone here has donated at least once...
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01-14-2020, 06:42 PM
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#5999
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Location: New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
Been thinking about this, pretty sure it is in the .zon file.
Could you please post the contents of EuCon.zon ?
Thanks
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Here's what I've got in Eucon.zon:
Code:
Zone Home
IncludedZones
"Buttons|"
"Channel|1-100
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Zone "Buttons|"
Rewind Rewind
FastForward FastForward
Stop Stop
Play Play
Record Record
Cycle CycleTimeline
ReturnToZero Reaper "40042"
/ smpteBeats CycleTimeDisplayModes
/ TimeDisplay TimeDisplay
/ Read TrackAutoMode "1"
/ Write TrackAutoMode "3"
/ Trim TrackAutoMode "0"
/ Touch TrackAutoMode "2"
/ Latch TrackAutoMode "4"
/ Group Reaper "42023"
/ Shift+Read GlobalAutoMode "1"
/ Shift+Write GlobalAutoMode "3"
/ Shift+Trim GlobalAutoMode "0"
/ Shift+Touch GlobalAutoMode "2"
/ Shift+Latch GlobalAutoMode "4"
/ Shift+Group Reaper "42024"
/ Save Reaper "40026"
/ Shift+Save Reaper "40022"
/ Undo Reaper "40029"
/ Shift+Undo Reaper "40030"
/ Marker Reaper "40172"
/ Shift+Marker Reaper "40157"
/ Option+Marker Reaper "40174"
/ Nudge Reaper "40173"
/ Click Reaper "40364"
ZoneEnd
Zone "Channel|"
TrackNavigator
IncludedZones
"Send|1-8
IncludedZonesEnd
Display| TrackNameDisplay
Pan_Rotary| TrackPanPercent
Width_Rotary| TrackPanWidthPercent
RecordArm| TrackRecordArm
Solo| TrackSolo
Mute| TrackMute
Select| TrackUniqueSelect
Shift+Select| TrackRangeSelect
Control+Select| TrackSelect
Shift+Control+Select| TogglePin
FaderDB| TrackVolumeDB
FaderTouch| TrackTouch
ZoneEnd
Zone "Send|"
ParentNavigator
Send_Display| TrackSendNameDisplay
Send_Rotary| TrackSendVolumeDB
ZoneEnd
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01-14-2020, 07:17 PM
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#6000
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinGShore
Here's what I've got in Eucon.zon:
Code:
Zone Home
IncludedZones
"Buttons|"
"Channel|1-100
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Zone "Buttons|"
Rewind Rewind
FastForward FastForward
Stop Stop
Play Play
Record Record
Cycle CycleTimeline
ReturnToZero Reaper "40042"
/ smpteBeats CycleTimeDisplayModes
/ TimeDisplay TimeDisplay
/ Read TrackAutoMode "1"
/ Write TrackAutoMode "3"
/ Trim TrackAutoMode "0"
/ Touch TrackAutoMode "2"
/ Latch TrackAutoMode "4"
/ Group Reaper "42023"
/ Shift+Read GlobalAutoMode "1"
/ Shift+Write GlobalAutoMode "3"
/ Shift+Trim GlobalAutoMode "0"
/ Shift+Touch GlobalAutoMode "2"
/ Shift+Latch GlobalAutoMode "4"
/ Shift+Group Reaper "42024"
/ Save Reaper "40026"
/ Shift+Save Reaper "40022"
/ Undo Reaper "40029"
/ Shift+Undo Reaper "40030"
/ Marker Reaper "40172"
/ Shift+Marker Reaper "40157"
/ Option+Marker Reaper "40174"
/ Nudge Reaper "40173"
/ Click Reaper "40364"
ZoneEnd
Zone "Channel|"
TrackNavigator
IncludedZones
"Send|1-8
IncludedZonesEnd
Display| TrackNameDisplay
Pan_Rotary| TrackPanPercent
Width_Rotary| TrackPanWidthPercent
RecordArm| TrackRecordArm
Solo| TrackSolo
Mute| TrackMute
Select| TrackUniqueSelect
Shift+Select| TrackRangeSelect
Control+Select| TrackSelect
Shift+Control+Select| TogglePin
FaderDB| TrackVolumeDB
FaderTouch| TrackTouch
ZoneEnd
Zone "Send|"
ParentNavigator
Send_Display| TrackSendNameDisplay
Send_Rotary| TrackSendVolumeDB
ZoneEnd
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Aha, think you've uncovered a bug in the EuCon config logic.
In the meantime, you should be able to get this file working simply by completing the quotes in 2 places:
Code:
Zone Home
IncludedZones
"Buttons|"
"Channel|1-100"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Zone "Channel|"
TrackNavigator
IncludedZones
"Send|1-8"
IncludedZonesEnd
Display| TrackNameDisplay
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