MIDI Editor Horizontal Zoom - whyyyy is this possible?

[ferropop]

What is the possible use case of allowing this to happen?



It's horrifying lol.

[ivansc]

Agreed. One of Reaper`s few MIDI weak spots has long been the clumsy way(s) to access MIDI tracks, especially in the editors.

However, I admit that when I am transposing or modulating a track, it IS handy to be able to shrink it down quickly to envelope select all the data you want to affect....
I am in the middle of re-keying a lot of my old MIDI backing tracks for an upcoming solo gig, because I can`t sing as high as I did ten years ago... last time I did a MIDI-based solo gig!

[ferropop]

Originally Posted by ivansc

Agreed. One of Reaper`s few MIDI weak spots has long been the clumsy way(s) to access MIDI tracks, especially in the editors.

However, I admit that when I am transposing or modulating a track, it IS handy to be able to shrink it down quickly to envelope select all the data you want to affect....
I am in the middle of re-keying a lot of my old MIDI backing tracks for an upcoming solo gig, because I can`t sing as high as I did ten years ago... last time I did a MIDI-based solo gig!

Haha yeah it just really shouldn't be the default behaviour imo.

[ivansc]

It really isn`t a default behaviour, it`s just The Behaviour.

P.S. I am currently working on about 300 MIDI files in exactly the way I said originally!!! Love that I can quickly minimise individual MIDI tracks in the TCP.

[vitalker]

It drives me crazy, too.

[mccrabney]

zooming in REAPER (also in arrange):



i'd like to be more like the guy in the middle. no more criss cross

...crisscrosscrisscross

[NAD]

Originally Posted by ferropop

What is the possible use case of allowing this to happen?
[demonstration gif]
It's horrifying lol.

I'm not sure I understand. Is the problem that you can zoom in the midi editor to sections of the project such that no midi items are visible? And if so what would your expected behavior be?

[ferropop]

Originally Posted by NAD

I'm not sure I understand. Is the problem that you can zoom in the midi editor to sections of the project such that no midi items are visible? And if so what would your expected behavior be?

That a default behaviour (being able to zoom into the nucleus of an atom, to the infinite empty right-side of your entire project) is maybe bad default behaviour. That maybe it shouldn't be so easy to do an unbelievably useless and disruptive thing, to the point that it commonly happens during routine navigation.

It's just kinda bad, so clunky and unrefined in actual practice, not just aesthetically.

[StefanMax]

Originally Posted by ferropop

That a default behaviour (being able to zoom into the nucleus of an atom, to the infinite empty right-side of your entire project) is maybe bad default behaviour. That maybe it shouldn't be so easy to do an unbelievably useless and disruptive thing, to the point that it commonly happens during routine navigation.

It's just kinda bad, so clunky and unrefined in actual practice, not just aesthetically.

Not sure if I understand your point...

So basically what you want is Reaper to automatically create empty space left of the starting point (1.0.0) when you zoom out more than the whole project has items?

[ferropop]

Like, you can't add new MIDI Items from the MIDI Editor at measure 22,000 even if you wanted to for some reason, so there's literally no utility to being able to zoom that far. So rather than zoom over to measure 22,000 for literally no reason, it could just stop at the edge of the item (if that's what's editable), or stop at the edge of the last item in the project, etc. Something useful and sensible.

[vdubreeze]

+1 x a billion