Option for splitting grouped item to not split group...

[Fabian]

I would want an option to not split a group when an item in the group is split. Currently this happens, and maybe there is some logic to it (http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=7693), but there's also logic (in my mind) to not split the group but to have the split remain within the group.

Why?

When working with takes and comping (which I find works rather good, although I seem to be alone in thinking this http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=83909 ), it makes sense to group all the items that make up a comp and have the "Option: Selecting one grouped item selects group" turned on (otherwise the logic of the comps function is very confusing to me). But the current split group behavior wrecks this work flow, and having a split that splits within the group would instead support it.

So... either a new split action that preserves the group, or an option to always preserve the group when splitting. Thanks...

[Fabian]

No-one else seems to think this would be a useful feature...

Luckily, using SWS extensions a simple macro can achieve this.

SWS/S&M: Split selected items at edit cursor (no change selection)
Item: Group items

[Jeffos]

hey fabian, unfortately not in SWS v2.0: I removed those actions, reasons:

Originally Posted by Jeffos

House cleaning:[list][*] Removed the folowing split actions:
Contrary to their related native versions, the following ones were spliting selected items *and only them*, see related thread.
Due to REAPER v3.67's new native pref "If no items are selected, some split/trim/delete actions affect all items at the edit cursor", those actions are less useful (well, they would still split only selected items even if that native pref is ticked). Also removed because of the spam in the action list (many split actions).
SWS/S&M: Split selected items at play cursor
SWS/S&M: Split selected items at time selection
SWS/S&M: Split selected items at edit cursor (no change selection)
SWS/S&M: Split selected items at time selection (select left)
SWS/S&M: Split selected items at time selection (select right)
SWS/S&M: Split selected items at edit or play cursor
SWS/S&M: Split selected items at edit or play cursor

That being said, if you think they still interesting, let me know!

.. also I post here because your post confirms what I was thinking about your other SWS issue: you're using an "old" SWS version with REAPER v4.
Do not use SWS 1.x with REAPER v4 but only SWS v2.0!

[Fabian]

Originally Posted by Jeffos

hey fabian, unfortately not in SWS v2.0: I removed those actions, reasons:


That being said, if you think they still interesting, let me know!

.. also I post here because your post confirms what I was thinking about your other SWS issue: you're using an "old" SWS version with REAPER v4.
Do not use SWS 1.x with REAPER v4 but only SWS v2.0!

OK, thanks.

Yes, I'm currently using the 1.8.6 build with R4beta20. And other than the crash reported in the other thread, I've not seen anything bad.

But, yes, I think that the "no change selection" is useful. I have the "if no items selected" switch turned off. I really think that affecting all items if no items are selected is counter-intuitive.

But then a "Split item(s) (preserve group(s))" would also do it for me, since that's what I'm really after.

Thanks