05-09-2021, 05:44 PM | #1 |
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Drum VST's - are there any good ones with presets?
As in preset drumkits and beats (although beats are not that important).
Coming from Addictive Drums, which does not work and the developers will not release .exe install files. It is compulsory to use the online installer, which does not work, properly, under WINE. So something of that quality would be the go...And it does not have to be free, happy to pay for one if necessary. |
05-09-2021, 06:05 PM | #2 |
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Just to move this along a bit I have just installed Hydrogen so I'll have a play with that...but please, any further suggestions welcome
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05-09-2021, 07:00 PM | #3 |
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James, are the kits you setup not usable on Linux?
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Yes, they are. The kits are for DrumGizmo, which is available as Linux VST and Linux LV2. There are no "presets" though. The kits are ready to use, and sound good as-is, but they are best with more EQ etc. added.
Here's a link to the "big" kit I made: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=233402 And then the other 2 which are simpler (no overhead/room channels, made from different drum samples): http://tchackpoum.fr/ (Scroll down a bit.) Last edited by JamesPeters; 05-10-2021 at 08:21 PM. |
05-09-2021, 09:26 PM | #5 |
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Thanks James, Drumgizmo? I think I ahve read or heard about that somewhere...
I'll have a look, cheers Dennis PS:re urigtone, aren't they more Metal sample sets? |
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Ugritone can be used for pop, rock, etc. too. In EZDrummer, I'd even sometimes use the Nashville kit for metal. It's more a matter of whether the software will allow enough adjustments or not. This software does allow for that.
You would have to adjust most of the presets (since the mix is more suited to metal), and I expect you might not like some of the expansions available for KVLT II (and you might not care for Northern Artillery). But these plugins have multiple mic channels, various kit pieces to substitute, EQ, pitch, and one-shot slots, so it's not like a "pre-baked" sound per kit; what starts out even as a "death metal" kit preset can be transformed into something great for rock. If you expect to play jazz with them though (or blues), then I'd agree that you probably shouldn't use them. If you're just concerned about rock (or even blues) sounds, Riot should be good. It's just the one kit though. You might also like the DrumGizmo kits I made. Quote:
Also there are these: https://x42-plugins.com/x42/x42-avldrums They're probably in your distro's repo. Last edited by JamesPeters; 05-09-2021 at 11:08 PM. |
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Then there is the Room Blasting thing and MT PowerDrumKit
https://www.roomsound.com/products/blastingroom/ https://www.powerdrumkit.com/download76187.php
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A +1 for the stuff from Tchackpoum. I used his kits fort a long time till I got drawn into Toontrack`s beta testing... now I am just sad that I cant persuade them to consider putting out a Linux version...
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and then export the kit with a different name. Lots of synths have segregated percussion preset sections to mine from, for example, you find 10 cool percussive sounds in a preset collection, record them in a track with a uniform gap beteen the sounds, load the track three times in audacity, and starting at the end of the first track, export each sound as .wav with a simple name, and delete it off the end of the track, repeating the steps for each remaining sound. Do the same for the other 2 tracks, but first amplify each track louder or quieter, and export using the same names appended with a 2 or 3, so drum sounds pulled from TAL Noisemaker synth could be tal-tom tal-tom2 tal-tom3 based on loudness etc This way, a hydrogen pattern could have built-in velocity from instruments in the kit placed in the pattern grid(s) with some randomness, or desired expression. When using qjackctl, make an audio track in Reaper, and connect the Hydrogen (or avlkits etc) output there, add something like Replika for effects, and let the good times roll, or badda-bing or... |
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05-10-2021, 10:15 AM | #10 |
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Thanks folks, much appreciated...
One thing is that I cannot seem to load Hydrogen into Reaper? Well at least I have not found where ladspa files are stored by Hydrogen and I am guessing I need to point Reaper to the location. I read they are suppose to be in opt somewhere? but I couldn't find them? In any case it may be moot if one of those other options mentioned above pans out |
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I didn't think Hydrogen was a plugin.
Try DrMr: https://kx.studio/Repositories:Plugins#drmr It's supposed to load Hydrogen kits and it's a plugin. |
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https://lsp-plug.in/?page=manuals&se...t_hydrogen_kit
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05-10-2021, 11:30 AM | #13 |
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Thanks James - yeah it is supposed to be a ladspa as well, but there us no ladspa folder in usr/lib - at least that's where research suggests it should be. And I read that Reaper can load ladspa files. I installed via Synaptic, so I am guessing it did the "right" thing??
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ladspa is the predecessor to LV2. Reaper supports LV2.
I imagine the LSP Plugins sampler is better than DrMr, based on how it looks. I haven't used either. |
05-10-2021, 11:40 AM | #16 |
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hmmmm, I think I may have misread this...it can use ladspa plugins but the program itself is not.
Well i think I will now uninstall it. Might try that drmr app ( as it loads H kits!) quick edit - couldn't figure out how to get Hydro drums into this this thing quickly, so another job for a "thousand sweating clerks" best left for another time. I'll just stick with AVL drums for the mo, it loads up easy and has a couple of preset kits. haha from one go-to drum app (which did everything I needed) in windows to needing to use several different things in linux to achieve the same....ah well Last edited by pax-eterna; 05-10-2021 at 11:53 AM. |
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You can also try that drumkits I made for DrumGizmo. I included Reaper track templates, so despite the fact it loads multiple tracks (for the various output channels), it's "ready to go" as soon as you load it.
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05-10-2021, 05:05 PM | #18 |
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Again, just route hydrogen output to a reaper audio track.
I promise, the plugin-police can't jail you for doing that! Cheers |
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When I start to get into the projects as Reaper ones I'll dig a bit deeper then Cheers m8 D |
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05-10-2021, 08:38 PM | #21 |
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For me, it's cleaner to have hydro's gui and mixer on it's own desktop screen, big and full-featured as it is, and reaper on another, where plugin guis must already vye for screen real-estate. But sometimes you just want some great drums quick, like the avl's, and that's also on the ever growing menu.
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