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Old 07-05-2010, 07:10 PM   #1
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I've just about had it with Digital Performer not only not being 64-bit but with the fact that 64-bit is not mentioned once in connection with DP on their website (except for mastering). I have 32 Gigs of ram. How many more years am I supposed to wait to use the 28 Gigs that are sitting there idle?

So here's my question: is anyone using Reaper (Mac) professionally? I mean like real, getting-paid-to-meet-deadlines professionally. 'Cause I don't have time to indulge an interesting hobby sequencer and to spend hours swapping ideas about neat things to implement. That's totally cool, but not what I do. I'm just an end-user who uses computers to make music for a living. Efficiency and reliability are what matter for me.

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Old 07-05-2010, 07:26 PM   #2
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Yes, and you'll meet them in this forum.
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try the demo........

make a professional assessment.
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I just switched from Sonar 8.5.3 PE which is used by some professionals, a bit of a learning curve at first but well worth the effort.
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Professional engineer here. Ex ProTools user (for twelve years). I still have ProTools installed and use it for previous projects and client compatibility but REAPER is now my primary DAW.
I use REAPER for tracking, editing, mixing and mastering and have even used it for live use at a recent gig with a quadraphonic PA system. At that gig, I used REAPER for surround panning, quadraphonic delays and quadraphonic reverbs (using surround room impulses).
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:09 PM   #6
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Semi-Professional use here. I track and mix for bands (and get paid) and do moderate track count (26 channel) live recording gigs (and subsequent mixing) on a professional basis. It's not my day job though.
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I wouldn't jump right away. My advice is, install it and take some time to learn its differences and/or similarities with Digital Performer. I've spent a lot of time configuring it and setting options up (and I'm still learning) but it does worth that time because once you've mastered it you'll be able to complete those deadlines successfully just like some of us do (clients have never complained here, I always get the job done). Read the User Guide (http://www.reaper.fm/userguide.php), install extensions (http://www.standingwaterstudios.com/) and do some searches here to find useful tips and tricks according to your criteria. People are really helpful around here so please don't hesitate if you have any doubt.

Communication with Reaper's developers is fluent here, bugs are fixed regularly (sometimes users jumped in if they can help somehow). Requests are fulfilled eventually so if you have any idea to improve any area or simply think others' ideas could benefit your workflow, please share it or support it voting in the Issue Tracker (http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?projectid=2), don't worry it won't take more than 10 minutes to find and vote for a suggestion there
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Reaper can make an excellent sidekick to Logic\DP etc, in rewire. It's a great way to get up and runnin with it too, cause your not in totally alien territory. You might find a very nice middle ground rewiring, cause you have your familiar DAW, and the expandability that Reaper introduces.

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Old 07-05-2010, 09:18 PM   #9
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So here's my question: is anyone using Reaper (Mac) professionally? I mean like real, getting-paid-to-meet-deadlines professionally.
I'm not sure if this fits your criteria but Sound on Sound magazine use reaper in most of their mix rescues, I know at one time they used Logic.
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:27 PM   #10
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Old 07-05-2010, 10:22 PM   #11
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Thanks for all the feedback. I have Reaper freshly installed and will certainly take it for a spin. I'm feeling a little hinky because I've been in DP for so long and am very comfortable, but not so comfortable with MOTU's reliance on need-to-know customer relations, slowpoke development, etc. I like Cockos' approach/politics, guess I'll find out if I'm comfortable in Reaper.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:24 AM   #12
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Check out the extensions too as they can add a lot. Mainly sws extension which you can find the link for in the above resources page.

I came from Nuendo and used it for many paid jobs and reaper now replaces and exceeds it for the way I work. This has mostly been down to the development team here listening and then implementing the bits that were missing from Nuendo!

Any questions to help you cross over just ask us all here! We're a helpful bunch!
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I've just about had it with Digital Performer not only not being 64-bit but with the fact that 64-bit is not mentioned once in connection with DP on their website (except for mastering). I have 32 Gigs of ram. How many more years am I supposed to wait to use the 28 Gigs that are sitting there idle?

So here's my question: is anyone using Reaper (Mac) professionally? I mean like real, getting-paid-to-meet-deadlines professionally. 'Cause I don't have time to indulge an interesting hobby sequencer and to spend hours swapping ideas about neat things to implement. That's totally cool, but not what I do. I'm just an end-user who uses computers to make music for a living. Efficiency and reliability are what matter for me.
Might as well stick with what you're using then.
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So here's my question: is anyone using Reaper (Mac) professionally? I mean like real, getting-paid-to-meet-deadlines professionally. 'Cause I don't have time to indulge an interesting hobby sequencer and to spend hours swapping ideas about neat things to implement. That's totally cool, but not what I do. I'm just an end-user who uses computers to make music for a living. Efficiency and reliability are what matter for me.
I think there are lots of pros using Reaper but that question or observation doesn't really help you make a decision because, like hobbyists and/or others, "professionals" aren't a static class of identical users who all do the same things with their hosts.

Honestly, you can run a professional studio with Garageband and some great plugs. It all depends on the client base. People recording mostly string quartets or gospel choirs for church for instance won't be doing a heck of a lot of the editing that others think is mandatory in a host.

Try it (and everything else) and see if it works for you in it's current state based on how you work and what you need. It's the only relevant criteria.

Also keep in mind that Internet chat is a hobby that some enjoy. It's certainly not the case that the vast majority of any user of any software (and their users opinions) will be found in a web forum. Only the people who enjoy that kinda thing and the net in general... so even majority web opinions would only be a very, very tiny sampling of the user base.

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Old 07-07-2010, 02:45 AM   #15
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A sales rep from Avid told me that all PROfessional studios used PRO tools and Avid products. So it must be true. . . not.

Between the great software, this forum and the documentation - no contest. Reaper just works!
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Old 07-07-2010, 08:41 AM   #16
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I think a better question would be does Reaper do the things I'm accustom to doing (then give examples), because if you think about it all software Daws can give professional sounding results it's just a matter of workflow and if it works with how you do things. Personally I was a Sonar user from Sonar 1-8 but I always felt like it didn't flow with how I liked to work, I even used pro tools and cubase/nuendo but nothing felt right until I started using Reaper but you may be different.
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Old 07-07-2010, 08:54 AM   #17
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I am a Professional/semi-pro/hobbyist/no-one... and I have been using various programs properly for over 10 years and dabbling in mixing/making music for over 15 or more since I was a kid.

Reaper is the best I have ever used and I used to use cubase for years and have tried sonar and used reason and ableton live too.

I have sold records and digital downloads to people all over the world and I think that if you couldn't make professional music in reaper; you couldn't make it in another sequencer.

I wouldn't say I am a professional now but I was self employed writing music. But I would like to think my tunes made in reaper are 'professional'.

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Old 07-07-2010, 09:26 AM   #18
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I'm not on Mac and I don't consider myself pro per se.

But...
4 days after I payed my $60 REAPER license I recorded, edited, and mixed 10 tracks for a band. Charged them enough to pay for that license more than four times over.

IMHO REAPER has everything you need to be 'pro' depending on your definition of pro. I only define pro here as getting payed.
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I am also a DP refugee and prefer REAPER. More capable (after a steep learning curve).
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Old 07-08-2010, 09:56 AM   #21
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35 years as professional engineer/producer- so went through the analogue, digital, standalone digital recorders, Nuendo/Cubase and now Reaper. I have both a commercial and semi-pro licence in my tiny company and I love it. Every time I think there is something Reaper can't do someone on this forum tells me how to do it or it becomes available in an update within a week or two. I can't comment on the midi aspects but the audio aspects are tremendous. I do my own private digital studio recording (the semipro license) as well as full on commerical stuff with live recordings of 48 channels at a time as well as live production playbacks. Right now, and for the next ten days, my commercial license version is running the timecode synced playback system for background fireworks music and stage production playback in a major theme park/exhibition that gets over 1.5 million people over the ten days. Stable and awesome! It took me a couple of months to fully change over from Nuendo/Cubase as I learned the program and how to do everything I needed, but it was worth it. I have LOTS of deadlines and major clients and the workflow and stability has greatly improved my confidence in meeting them compared to when I dealt with Steinberg. Check it out!
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:34 PM   #22
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It's better than steinberg Pro24...

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Professional DAW user, but on custom-built PC. Mac used for Logic/garageband.
REAPER has a few minor niggles, oddities and weird curveballs, but all DAWs do. The plusses walk all over the minuses by a factor of hunderds for me.

Try it, the only cost will be some of your spare time...

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Old 07-09-2010, 01:07 AM   #23
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Yes!

Full time job, 80% recording-editing-mixing, 20% live engineering (during summer). I'm kinda specialized in recording on site as a cheap but effective alternative, mainly for indie acts. Reaper based systems. Two custom PCs and an old G4 laptop. Former ProTools user. I always bring my daws with me, even when working in other local studios...
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Professional Sound Designer and Music Producer for 11 years, I use Reaper from day 1, Never Looked Back :-P

With Reaper's expandability, routing, handling, quality features I can say for sure that I know make 30% more money for my time, its not a small number, Reaper rules !!!

All other DAWs now seem dinosaurs to my eyes (and ears!)

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Old 01-11-2011, 08:17 AM   #27
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Yup....

Producer and engineer here. Use Reaper exclusively on all our projects, including music production, mixing, mastering, video sync, sound design. Relatively new to the software so the first productions will be out and about soon.

We have worked on Pro-tools, Logic, Cubase, Nuendo, Cakewalk/Sonar since the early days of digital audio technology and no software has had us as enthusiastic as Reaper. Some minor niggles aside, it is a great piece of software that is performs amazingly well. Plus, their licencing policy and customer response is fantastic. I have no hesitation in recommending it to all my colleagues.

We are now looking at expanding our rig to surround, and so are rather excited at the developments going on in Reaper 4.
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There is another earlier thread on just this subject which is already running to many many pages.
You don`t need to be afraid of Cubendo, Sonar and PoTools users kicking sand in your face if you switch.
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I'm not a music producer, engineer, mixer, etc... but I use it for work. I do some content for high-end commercial usage, like casinos, malls, theatrical events, and some marketing type stuff too (no ads you've seen on TV though, I'd quit my job if that was the case! more like presentations and demo videos...)

anyways, yeah, I could've used protools, soundforge, vegas, logic, or whatever else my company already had laying around, but REAPER does the job with less hassle and cost... seemed pretty obvious to me. plus I was able to do some js programming for a kinetic light/video study (with music/audio ques and interactive controls) so it's way more programmatically friendly - seems you'd have a much harder time doing that with any other DAW...
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I have a bachelor's degree in Audio Engineering from the Rythmic Music Conservatory in Denmark (the state-run non-classical conservatory). I was trained on Pro Tools there and hated every second of it with a passion (used 2" tape whenever I could get away with it).

Now I do mostly live SNR but with the occasional live recording/mixing and a few studio productions as well. And that's my profession, so yes - another professional Reaper user here.

And I can't see how Reaper should not be usable professionally. Unless there's some specific feature you need that's missing, it only seems more stable than other DAWs for most users.
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There is another earlier thread on just this subject which is already running to many many pages.
You don`t need to be afraid of Cubendo, Sonar and PoTools users kicking sand in your face if you switch.
Yes, and also you can see if many academics are using Reaper because of the routing, format, high bit depth precision it has, after all being a professional doesn't always mean that is using the best tools, probably it means that he is doing it professionally so he chooses what he wants and uses it by applying it to his workflow and pipeline.

So academia for me is a more valid source if you are going to see the top notch users, they tend to stress the capabilities of software and also have significant more reliable opinions. Pros are usually biased...
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A friend of mine who works for Steinberg (Yamaha) just recently said "No such thing as a Nuendo to Reaper convert, professionally I mean".

So in other words what he is saying no major commercial studios are using Reaper (like if someone had a full blown pro tool rig etc.)

I pointed out that the reason that most pro studios use Pro Tools and Nuendo is because they had set the standards. However, that doesn't mean that non of them USE Reaper

So I Google and came across this thread.

Any Big Boys using Reaper? I think so! But if you have a link to your studio showing how you use it over Pro Tools that would be sweet to see!
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So in other words what he is saying no major commercial studios are using Reaper (like if someone had a full blown pro tool rig etc.)
He's more likely saying that the features that most people pay $2000 to get in Nuendo actually don't even exist in Reaper so a guy using all of Nuendo's post features daily would likely not "convert" to Reaper or Logic or similar because those products actually don't do that nearly as well, if even at all.

Maybe convert to DP though.

Are you really aware of all of the features of Nuendo? Most people don't pay $2k for it just to make pop songs.

If you want to record and mix in a conventional studio there are 6-7+ viable great choices, for a studio centerpiece. If you work in post at a high level there are only maybe 3 great choices, PT, Nuendo and DP (on Mac), and maybe Pyramix.

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He's more likely saying that the features that most people pay $2000 to get in Nuendo actually don't even exist in Reaper so a guy using all of Nuendo's post features daily would likely not "convert" to Reaper or Logic or similar because those products actually don't do that nearly as well, if even at all.

Maybe convert to DP though.

Are you really aware of all of the features of Nuendo? Most people don't pay $2k for it just to make pop songs.
I know there's a lot of stuff in Nuendo that I currently am not using. I have Cubase 7.5 and was going to throw some of the bands I'm mixing into it to see how it performs next to Reaper with its stock plugs like Yamaha's virtual console compared to Slates VCC that I use now.

I'm also getting into video editing and will probably work with Adobe as my editor of choice. However for now I would do my audio in Reaper, then drop it into Adobe. Nuendo? Perhaps one day.
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I know there's a lot of stuff in Nuendo that I currently am not using.
Me either. Don't need 70% of it. (my copy is 5.5, the almost never expiring demo)

But many other people do. You have to remember that most of those people (major studios and post rooms) are in - business - they're not fighting a daw war. Success is measured by the financial income and ongoing viability of the enterprise, not by the popularity of the software they use.

Go look at the Nuendo 6 videos and tell me how you can do all that so easily in any popular consumer level music production DAW. If you could, it wouldn't cost $2k.

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Nuendo actually gained its original market share in post production environments (television and film). Cubase was the app meant for musicians. However, the gradual bleed from one to the other has created a more homogenous product line; Nuendo, and Nuendo Junior.
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Yes. It's built for professional post.

Only (imo) a complete moron or maybe a trust fund baby would pay an additional $1400 more for it over the full Cubase just to record bands and sequence midi and do the occasional YT home movie video score. But of course, if you got lots of extra cash like that (and some do), go for it.
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Me either. Don't need 70% of it. (my copy is 5.5, the almost never expiring demo)

But many other people do. You have to remember that most of those people (major studios and post rooms) are in - business - they're not fighting a daw war. Success is measured by the financial income and ongoing viability of the enterprise, not by the popularity of the software they use.

Go look at the Nuendo 6 videos and tell me how you can do all that so easily in any popular consumer level music production DAW. If you could, it wouldn't cost $2k.

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There is no reason to convert unless you want to, REAPER and all other sequencers are just good tools, it depends on what you do.

Now, to answer your question, yes there are big guns using REAPER.

As far as I know:

1) Broadcast giant BBC, changed all their locations recording mobile studios from ProTools to REAPER because as they said is better for what they want.

2) DSP Developer behemoth Native Instruments, uses REAPER to test and develop plugins.

3) Many studios that can't state the use due to commercial reasons are using REAPER especially in the Game Audio sector.

But again, I'm not trying to convince anybody, I work in post for many years and in game audio, I choose reaper from nuendo or others for my own reasons and I propose it as an alternative to anyone(and I worked professionally with DP, Nuendo, ProTools, Sonar, Studer A800, Samplitude/Sequoia, Cubase, Radar24, heck I started from the early commodore trackers).

I have a friend in a huge studio that does mostly orchestral recordings and when I showed to him what REAPER was capable of doing he started shouting "Why Neve is not doing that!" :-)

Anyway, its a personal preference, who cares which brand of brushes Michelangelo used? Find the tools that best fit your workflow and pipeline with the rest of your colleagues and start making some noise!

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I wonder if they changed the Nuendo demo timing in the latest version. My copy goes in real time "days", like it only counts down against those hours, minutes, seconds, when the application is running.

I've had it forever and I still have over 10 full real time days left. I burned an entire day once by forgetting to close it, I left it running on a system I wasn't using for almost a full day. I mostly only use it to open AAF's and to do some other stuff, usually never launch it for more than 10-15 minutes at a time, tops. It'll last a really, really long time.

Last edited by Lawrence; 08-08-2014 at 08:33 AM.
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