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With this MPE coding you could do any microtonal melody within 10 octaves of intervals of less than a cent. (The example uses intervals of 12.5 cent.) -Michael Last edited by mschnell; 10-02-2018 at 07:01 AM. |
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10-01-2018, 01:03 PM | #43 |
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i hope the consultant can reply so i can tell him all about this, and for hIm to do the MPE coding
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10-01-2018, 01:08 PM | #44 |
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or how can this be done? do you have any ideas?
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10-01-2018, 01:12 PM | #45 |
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What is "this" ?
It depends on what kind of data iannix can provide, The Midi sequence you showed me is obviously inappropriate without additional information which might or might not be included in the Midi stream by iannix. Or you could be using by the OSC stream iannix might provide (while with OSC content the is no "standard"; everything is completely propriety). But in any case you would need to find some clear specification of the iannix output before any progress is possible. -Michael Last edited by mschnell; 10-01-2018 at 01:20 PM. |
10-01-2018, 01:22 PM | #46 |
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hello? what have we been trying to accomplish all this time? for the virtual piano Pianoteq to follow the outputting messages of iannix´s curve´s and triggers. if i draw a five second diagonal curve from C4 to F4 id hear 500 microtones accordingly in 5 seconds as the curve passes through... if i place a trigger in Y=8.89 id listen to a G#2 plus .89 cents also.
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10-01-2018, 01:23 PM | #47 |
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ok, let me check
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10-01-2018, 01:27 PM | #48 |
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i checked iannix midi messages, and its only outputting notes in 12 edo... so im guessing that OSC to retuned midi would have to be in place.
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10-01-2018, 01:45 PM | #49 |
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the OSC message which is called "collision_value_y - y mapped coordinate of the collision between the cursor and the curve" is the one that will handle pitch, its a value from 0 to 1, i just saw that if my curve is all the way at the bottom, the message outputs this value:0.0004999637603759766 for Y coordinate... its all i know.
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10-01-2018, 02:12 PM | #51 | |
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Using Midi and OSC in combination does not make any sense at all. While I already did OSCII-Bot programming, and it's not much harder than JSFX programming, I would avoid it if any possible, as maintaining jet another system besides Reaper leads to increased complexity and less reliability. And as said the is no "standard" (similar to MPE) for OSC note-definition. Hence before starting a decent documentation is necessary. -Michael |
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10-01-2018, 02:17 PM | #52 |
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This is very bad. No chance for any progress on that basis.
As said, I might offer some help with the Midi standard and Pianoteq Site, but not with the iannix site of the conversion tool. -Michael Last edited by mschnell; 10-01-2018 at 02:22 PM. |
10-01-2018, 02:25 PM | #53 |
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edo means equally divided octave, ive mentioned before what a trigger is,,, a trigger is a discrete attack, as opposed to a curve which is for glissandi and continuous movements. so you dont want to use OSC, i already told you what value for Y coordinate iannix outputs within a value of 0 to 1.
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10-01-2018, 02:33 PM | #54 |
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i dont think this can be done through midi
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10-01-2018, 02:33 PM | #55 |
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if you have an idea let me know
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As you don't seem to want to research in what way iannix really can be used to create usable data, and I also am not inclined to do that, I suppose we'd better stop at this point. -Michael |
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10-01-2018, 03:19 PM | #57 |
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i did the research, and i told you i needed help, goodbye. not answering to you anymore.
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10-01-2018, 09:39 PM | #58 |
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Resulting in iannix seeming not to output anything useful regarding musical data, only a too restricted Midi stream (only 128 frequencies) and some geometrical information via OSC. So we need to conclude that there is no chance but to define your own algorithm to convert geometrical information in microtonal notes. This of course is far beyond what what was planned to be a project to convert one musical description data stream in some other format.
Happily we found that when using Pianoteq (and supposedly a decent lot of other synthesizer software) the output format can be MPE Midi and hence as well "standard" and "ubiquitous" as supposedly efficient and versatile enough for the task. -Michael Last edited by mschnell; 10-01-2018 at 11:48 PM. |
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Please come back if you can can find additional useful information about the musical data stream that might be used as a source of a conversion to Midi MPE.
-Michael Last edited by mschnell; 10-02-2018 at 07:16 AM. |
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