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when you can use Thunderbolt PCI card with your PC?
I said "I have limited choice", not "I have no choice".
I could have a NUC and a monitor. or a HP ZBook 15, under 3 kg.

I used to build computers for myself in late 90s and stopped before 2010. yeah, I also have a 19" rack at home, but don't want to put computers in it, only studio equipment. I'd rather get an iMac of all these options.

I don't really have a PC (only a ThinkPad), but wake me up when PC world feels better about DPC latency and Thunderbolt, I'm afraid that I personally stay at Appleland with my DAW yet.
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I must admit a little surprise at the new Mac Pro announcement.
Appears to be a real computer with actual M.2 SSD slots (2x), pci slots (8x), ram slots (12x - total 1.5TB), and ports (thunderbolt 3, USB-A, USB-C).

Right away though...
This T2 chip business. It sounds like the M.2 SSDs for example are going to be proprietary and NOT standard M.2! Everything will be geared towards preventing 3rd party repair. The marketing brochure calls this security. So... a weird machine both aimed at raw 4k & 8k video editing and CIA agent work simultaneously. Or something. Preventing 3rd party repair basically.

Heh. Cue conspiracy theory about the CIA editing fake news video in real time!

Don't know how the price will line up with whatever custom build you could put together and go Linux/Hackentosh with. But I have a guess...


At least on the surface this looks like the first pro computer configuration out of Apple since 2012 so that's something anyway.

Apparently that stand video is real? I thought it was some Onion-like business. Wow...
That's not a good look.

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The M2 IS security.

Compare it to what the TPM tried to do many years ago. An sich, it's certainly not a bad idea. It won't be long before thieves know that stealing a Mac is useless, as you can't resell them. Not even for parts, as Apple also has identifiable screens on MB Pro's these days.

The M2 and everything that surrounds it, also throws up a barrier for 3rd party repair and Hackintosh. You won't be able to run 10.15 on a Hackintosh. And pretty soon, you won't be able to use an existing Hackintosh with Apple's stores. The same will apply to upgrades...

It's not only Apple who's moving to "always connected". MS is considering forced background updates, I've been told. The same avenue. And some linux distro's do collect data too.

That leaves only BSD, I'm afraid.
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I must admit a little surprise at the new Mac Pro announcement.
Appears to be a real computer with actual M.2 SSD slots (2x), pci slots (8x), ram slots (12x - total 1.5TB), and ports (thunderbolt 3, USB-A, USB-C).

Right away though...
This T2 chip business. It sounds like the M.2 SSDs for example are going to be proprietary and NOT standard M.2! Everything will be geared towards preventing 3rd party repair. The marketing brochure calls this security. So... a weird machine both aimed at raw 4k & 8k video editing and CIA agent work simultaneously. Or something. Preventing 3rd party repair basically.

Heh. Cue conspiracy theory about the CIA editing fake news video in real time!

Don't know how the price will line up with whatever custom build you could put together and go Linux/Hackentosh with. But I have a guess...


At least on the surface this looks like the first pro computer configuration out of Apple since 2012 so that's something anyway.

Apparently that stand video is real? I thought it was some Onion-like business. Wow...
That's not a good look.
What's especially ironic is that Apple is trying to service the upper pro purchaser, which they don't have the same grip on anymore, as FCPX isn't the players used to be. Obviously, it still gets used, but if you're doing high end video work it's not as if you need to use a Mac, and that you need to buy a better Mac. I know a slew of news and airing episodic TV editors and these days none are using FCPX or Macs. The only people buying these will be people who need it to be a Mac, which ain't in 2019 what it was in 2004. And despite their extremely successful infiltration of Universities' arts departments in the late '90s, Apple's paid as much attention to them in the decades that followed as they did the non-educational arts pro and semi pro user, and that dominance simply doesn't exist there either anymore, and they can go in any direction they want without losing students.

It will make the corporate employee very happy when their company buys one or two, and the editor who is so busy it will pay for itself. And if $18,000 give or take a few grand, will pay for itself in short order in an audio room who runs OS X programs, then it's good for them. But anyone hoping for a rock solid $4,000 box (at the bottom of its line) that will kick their DAW work up a few notches was left out of this one.
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What's especially ironic is that Apple is trying to service the upper pro purchaser, which they don't have the same grip on anymore...
Not refreshing your pro line of machines for 7 years will do that!

People get nervous. Linux starts looking interesting.

Did that $18,000 come from Apple somewhere or is that a quip? If that's real, this reads more like an official farewell as a computer marker. In just a foot shooting off kind of embarrassing way too!

Well, we'll have to see. It's at least positive to see a sign that Apple might make a comeback if this turns out to be serious.
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Right away though...
This T2 chip business. It sounds like the M.2 SSDs for example are going to be proprietary and NOT standard M.2! Everything will be geared towards preventing 3rd party repair. The marketing brochure calls this security. So... a weird machine both aimed at raw 4k & 8k video editing and CIA agent work simultaneously. Or something. Preventing 3rd party repair basically.
There are three sides to the M2.

One is positive. Apple controls booting and disk encryption in the T2. It means that if the machine gets stolen, the thief can't get to your data and he can't wipe the disk and install another OS. Whatever OS, on whatever disk. Renders the machine completely useless.

The other one is negative. If the machine dies, chances of data recovery are next to nihil. Third party repair is impossible atm. Let's wait and see what the courts in Norway decide, for a start.

And the third one is neutral, to me. Apple is a bank. The T2 will also secure money transfers and logon. That's mostly a good thing, even if Apple has Goldman-Sachs as a partner.

EDIT. I think the M2 SSD's are standard. You can replace them, provided you can get them. But you'd still need to tell the T2 about them. And that's one thing we don't know, yet.
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I have had over 10 macs of all size and color. Just got the new Mac mini to complement my 2013 Mac Pro and Mac Book pro. I love using them. I see many of my friends using PCs with just as much success. It costs what it costs. Isn’t the discussion superfluous? We buy with our hearts, or should say, our conditioned minds. I am sure there is a PhD or two on the topic. If you have the money and like the mac, it’s ecosystem etc, get it. If you prefer PC go for that. I have a company making active pro monitors - APS. We make products we think are good, consult with loads of folks from the industry. Which doesn’t mean everyone will like them. Some do, some don’t. We keep getting suggestions about certain things that just aren’t our cup of tea. I think the same is true for most companies. They listen but they have to do it selectively. Otherwise nothing would get out there.
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Apparently if you are working in higher level video (the raw 4k HD streams from cameras consumers can't even buy and such), the new announced Mac Pro is attractive and competitive in price.

I didn't have an understanding of any of the background for what he was talking about mind you. Maybe he's missed something? Maybe dismissing something that doesn't make the cut for him (even if you have to pay through the nose for it)? I hate video...

But he tells me you wouldn't be able to configure a system like this around the new 32 (or however many it has) core i17 (or whatever it is) CPU with this architecture and get OSX running on it for any less money.

Got to admit it looks like a true pro build of a machine. First pro computer out of Apple since 2012. I still don't like anything I've seen out of them since Steve Jobs died. Still planning on jumping ship to Linux and DIY builds moving forward. Only about half way into the life of my current Macs at present so plenty of time to fuss over all that.

My system drive in my newest Mac (2011 MBP) is named "Studio Earth IX". So... looks like I'm up to machine #9 now myself. If I buy a #10 it's going to be a 2nd 2009/2010 Mac Pro. I think #1 was a Power Mac 9600 around 1997.


Something like this might bring me back:

MacBook Pro
- overhauled cooling
- 3.something GHz CPU at least (with boost speeds up to 4 or 5)
- if that first point was taken seriously... then maybe we can talk about a 2nd higher powered GPU
- 2 M.2 slots
- 1 2.5" SATA bay
- bring back all the cost reduced features lost like the Magsafe power port, screen shield, and functional and elegant keyboard.
- Absolutely no CIA level security features designed to brick the machine at the slightest hint of service or mods by any 3rd party.
- 2 choices for RAM: Either slots or solder the max supported RAM to the board (and it BETTER not ever fail - so get your reliability testing on! - and no price gouging! Treat it as an aside.) Probably should go for slots.

And then a version of the new Mac Pro without the security crippling.

Then start putting some time into finishing releases of OSX! Go to every other year release if needed. Let's get back to where 10.6.8 left off please!

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Something like this might bring me back:

MacBook Pro
- overhauled cooling
- 3.something GHz CPU at least (with boost speeds up to 4 or 5)
- if that first point was taken seriously... then maybe we can talk about a 2nd higher powered GPU
- 2 M.2 slots
- 1 2.5" SATA bay
- bring back all the cost reduced features lost like the Magsafe power port, screen shield, and functional and elegant keyboard.
- Absolutely no CIA level security features designed to brick the machine at the slightest hint of service or mods by any 3rd party.
- 2 choices for RAM: Either slots or solder the max supported RAM to the board (and it BETTER not ever fail - so get your reliability testing on! - and no price gouging! Treat it as an aside.) Probably should go for slots.

And then a version of the new Mac Pro without the security crippling.

Then start putting some time into finishing releases of OSX! Go to every other year release if needed. Let's get back to where 10.6.8 left off please!
This is why I'm leaving Apple computer products. Louis Rossman has a new vid up on a bricked MacBook pro that Apple wouldn't repair. I love the OS and I've had good luck with my iMacs but if I can't repair, or get it repaired I'm not interested.
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Right away though...
This T2 chip business. It sounds like the M.2 SSDs for example are going to be proprietary and NOT standard M.2! Everything will be geared towards preventing 3rd party repair. The marketing brochure calls this security. So... a weird machine both aimed at raw 4k & 8k video editing and CIA agent work simultaneously. Or something. Preventing 3rd party repair basically.
They want to kill the repair business, as they've been trying to do for years. They want to have Apple Bozos at the "Genius" bar charge you full price for a new computer or phone when it can actually be repaired.







Watch enough of Louis' videos and it becomes apparent - they're deliberately making planned obsolescence products, or their engineers are incompetent.

Apple products are perfectly flawless, except when they're not.






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None of the vids are playing

They're definitely going after 3rd party repair. You can't even post about it on the Apple Forum. They threatened to ban me. I love Logic X, but if I buy a MacBook and it's a brick because of a T2 failure or "water damage", high humidity can trigger the sensors in there, then I'm going to be livid when they refuse to repair it.

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I was a mac fan boy for years but I switched to PC 3 years ago because there wasn't a powerful enough workstation for my needs.

That's changed with the new Mac Pro, but it's ultra expensive for what you're getting. frankly Windows 10 is just as good.... plus I love being able to use my workstation for gaming and I can fix and swap out and upgrade parts as desired.

I'd consider switching back if Apple wasn't ditching the x86 architecture, but I see no point in going back considering. Maybe if they brew up their own workstation class CPU.... but until then I sticking to windows.
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One friend I have just got a new Mac Pro for work he started it up for me.....
My old XP would have beat it.
I could not believe that my friend could tell me it was fast!

Someone is telling porkies to people.

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At the end of the day Macs and PC are nearly the same thing, it's just the operating system that's different. The new mac pro has some interesting graphic card innovations but nothing that can't be done on a PC and certainly nothing that changes how a music workstation functions.

Having all the I/O on PCIe is interesting but there's so many different options on PC for motherboards you can pretty much get exactly what you want.

Everyone I know that needed an updated workstation ran a hackintosh. Now they can run a new Mac Pro.... which will be obsolete in 2 years. I can't imagine spending $15k-20k on a Mac Pro when I could have bought a higher core-count PC and saved $5k or more.
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I'd also like to point out that AMD is ditching Vega for Navi for video chips so the Apple video cards will be obsolete even before the new Mac Pro is released.
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And then a version of the new Mac Pro without the security crippling.
All your others points are valid too. But this is the one that certainly won't come.

It could be time for a Hackintosh for audio. But why not just freeze on the last OS your hardware runs? Or the last one you deem workable. My life is much easier with an old setup for audio. Less portable, of course.

Hey, I still use a Powerbook to play DVDs, occasionally...

As I'm tied to the RME, Linux is not a choice yet. Can't live without TotalMix.
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All your others points are valid too. But this is the one that certainly won't come.

It could be time for a Hackintosh for audio. But why not just freeze on the last OS your hardware runs? Or the last one you deem workable. My life is much easier with an old setup for audio. Less portable, of course.

Hey, I still use a Powerbook to play DVDs, occasionally...

As I'm tied to the RME, Linux is not a choice yet. Can't live without TotalMix.
Yeah, I'm not exactly in a bad place!
My hardware literally runs the latest OSX (and back to 10.6 if and as I wish). It easily has another 10 years in it if I want it to. That will depend entirely on any new innovations that might obsolete it before then. I hope that happens actually! The last 10 years have been a coast aside form the SSD - which makes many already 10 year old machines still current.

If I were going to build a new tower platform machine today it would be DIY with Hackintosh/Linux. Not sure what to do for a laptop right now. My choice is still a 2011 or 2012 Macbook Pro for that.
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Lenovo Thinkpad?

I have an old Panasonic ThoughBook lying around. Played with the idea of putting one or more RPis in there. The only thing to weed out, is a suitable HDMI to screen driver board. I'm sure someone in China makes one. Just haven't found it yet
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Pretty much the same price for the same specs, PCs vs Macs.
Of course cheap PCs don't last as long a expensive Macs.
I'm still running my 2011 Mini. In that time frame I've collected a literal stack of PCs and laptops.

But OSX has changed, and I fear not for the better. The whole OS is now geared towards getting you to plug your iPhone into the damn thing. And as much as I love my Macs, I despise iPhones.
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the planned-obsolescence has gotten too extreme lately.

I went to the local library to work on a couple business documents I wrote on my home mac. the library mac wouldn't open the Pages or Numbers docs: "newer version of app is needed to open document."

that is total nonsense obsolescence. The library mac's are only 1 generation behind the current version (prior os, prior os's apps). what could have possibly improved so much in Pages or Numbers to mandate that new documents can't be opened with older software versions. Of course when saving data there is no option offered for what format to save the file as. There is only one option: "The" document type.

iMovie also had a similar recent switchover except worse. iMovie has always been horrible because it forces media to be converted into iMovie-only format which takes tons of storage space and locks the media inside an apple-only container. Now the iMovie app won't be able to open fairly recent iMovie libraries or some type of compatibility nonsense.
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nah, not really good now.
writing you from an X250 with a semi-broken keyboard.
my previous ThinkPad ended in 2013 (and it was a 2011 model) and no authorized or non-authorized service was able to fix it.
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You won't be able to run 10.15 on a Hackintosh.
People are already running 10.15 beta on Hackintosh systems. There are a few good years of running Mac OS yet on PC hardware I think.
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People are already running 10.15 beta on Hackintosh systems. There are a few good years of running Mac OS yet on PC hardware I think.
The beta isn't complete. Or Apple might just "allow" Hackintoshes for a while. Once the full plan is rolled out, Hackintoshes are gone. These security things have been used in MDM management for a few years now. With FV2, the various system keys and dependency on the net to allow installation, that's what Apple is aiming at. No key from Apple means no startup.
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The beta isn't complete. Or Apple might just "allow" Hackintoshes for a while. Once the full plan is rolled out, Hackintoshes are gone. These security things have been used in MDM management for a few years now. With FV2, the various system keys and dependency on the net to allow installation, that's what Apple is aiming at. No key from Apple means no startup.
Yup. I think Apple has allowed Hackintosh to exist because they know they haven't had a modern pro workstation solution for half a decade. Now that they have the Mac Pro coming, they'll likely lock that down.
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The beta isn't complete. Or Apple might just "allow" Hackintoshes for a while. Once the full plan is rolled out, Hackintoshes are gone. These security things have been used in MDM management for a few years now. With FV2, the various system keys and dependency on the net to allow installation, that's what Apple is aiming at. No key from Apple means no startup.
The beta isn't complete, true, but if it runs fine in beta there's a strong chance the final release and subsequent updates will all run fine. A lot of people in the hack community reckon we are safe for another 5 or so years. This whole moving to ARM chips talk is probably only for mobile devices like macbooks. Since the new Mac Pro is on Intel. Obviously, if Apple creates something that does suddenly stop new installs then people can still use working OS versions for years later on their hacks. The T2 chip, will probably make things difficult but there are some very clever and dedicated hackers that will just see that as a fun challenge to get past it. Everything else so far has been bypassed.
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This whole moving to ARM chips talk is probably only for mobile devices like macbooks. Since the new Mac Pro is on Intel. Obviously, if Apple creates something that does suddenly stop new installs then people can still use working OS versions for years later on their hacks. The T2 chip, will probably make things difficult but there are some very clever and dedicated hackers that will just see that as a fun challenge to get past it. Everything else so far has been bypassed.
I'd imagine you're correct that Apple will switch the laptop and mini to ARM first, but I'm sure they're interested in ARM based server processors for Mac Pro and iMac Pro and do not want to fragment MacOS for too long. They'll likely want to make the transition as quickly as possible as they did when switching from RISC to Intel. It's kind of funny that they're switching back to RISC from CISC. That said, it will be a few years until they're ready to switch desktops over besides the mini.
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mac mini with apple ARM will be amazing. lower power, smaller footprint, more efficient use of RAM. probably better balance of multi-core / single-core performance. better security against software holes.

the naysayers: "but i cant run my video games, wahh"

The bigger transition problem could be the file system when macos and ipados merge. it seems the intent to have no more per-file access to data in an os anymore.
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My system is a dual booting hackintosh (Windows 10 on an NVME drive and macOS Mojave on an SSD).

My macOS install works perfectly and I currently have exactly zero issues with it. That being said, I rarely boot into macOS anymore. I'm preferring Windows 10. A decade ago, I would have never considered Windows for my work. Now, the Apple ecosystem just isn't what it used to be. They still have some flashy features that are crazy nice, like Aggregate Audio Devices, CoreAudio in general, and iOS device integration.

I'm still preferring Windows 10 though.
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Which voice assistant do you prefer, siri or the microsoft one?
Thats probably what will matter in the future, because a voice assistant is going to take over many more tasks in the future.
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Yup. I think Apple has allowed Hackintosh to exist because they know they haven't had a modern pro workstation solution for half a decade. Now that they have the Mac Pro coming, they'll likely lock that down.
Or maybe apple allows hackintosh because they want to avoid antitrust regulation. intel "allowed" amd to exist for decades on purpose because they needed another company to "take" about 8-10% of the market so as not to be labelled a monopoly and forcibly split by regulators.
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Or maybe apple allows hackintosh because they want to avoid antitrust regulation. intel "allowed" amd to exist for decades on purpose because they needed another company to "take" about 8-10% of the market so as not to be labelled a monopoly and forcibly split by regulators.
Apple only makes up about 5% of the market. Anti-trust issues are about as far from their problems as you can find. Hackintosh exists because it is a tiny, tiny slice of their pie, and it would cost them more to stop it than it would just to ignore it.
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:28 AM   #236
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My system is a dual booting hackintosh (Windows 10 on an NVME drive and macOS Mojave on an SSD).

My macOS install works perfectly and I currently have exactly zero issues with it. That being said, I rarely boot into macOS anymore. I'm preferring Windows 10. A decade ago, I would have never considered Windows for my work. Now, the Apple ecosystem just isn't what it used to be. They still have some flashy features that are crazy nice, like Aggregate Audio Devices, CoreAudio in general, and iOS device integration.

I'm still preferring Windows 10 though.
You are the opposite of myself then, I have a dual boot Hack and I use mac OS Mojave about 95% of the time for audio work. Whilst Win 10 is pretty decent and most of my apps are cross platform, Win 10 still feels a bit clunky. Using files in Finder is so much quicker and more fluid for me. Dark mode is lush, core audio is better. But it's whatever you prefer and completely subjective. I don't really use the Apple ecosystem, I have an android phone since the hardware is better (like PCs and why a Hack is so appealing to me running mac OS on upgradeable hardware). However, for me there isn't really a lot of difference at all between iOS and Android, whereas Win 10 still has a fair bit of catching up to do for me in regards to desktop systems.
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You are the opposite of myself then, I have a dual boot Hack and I use mac OS Mojave about 95% of the time for audio work. Whilst Win 10 is pretty decent and most of my apps are cross platform, Win 10 still feels a bit clunky. Using files in Finder is so much quicker and more fluid for me. Dark mode is lush, core audio is better. But it's whatever you prefer and completely subjective. I don't really use the Apple ecosystem, I have an android phone since the hardware is better (like PCs and why a Hack is so appealing to me running mac OS on upgradeable hardware). However, for me there isn't really a lot of difference at all between iOS and Android, whereas Win 10 still has a fair bit of catching up to do for me in regards to desktop systems.
Yeah, as far as aesthetics and general OS usage go, macOS is still better. I do prefer Finder to Windows Explorer too.

I'm sure it'll get better over the years, but macOS's Metal is my big thing they have to work out. Graphically, apps like Reaper, Ableton Live, Cubase/Nuendo all operate much more smoothly on Windows with FAR fewer graphical hangups. Zooming and session navigation is so much more smooth.

First party apps on macOS like FCPX and Logic run super smoothly, but that's because Metal is the only visual rendering system they have to bother with I'm sure.

I also have been doing a lot of remote work recently and I use Discord for real-time collaboration with clients. Screen sharing is unusable on macOS because there is no Metal support for Discord on macOS, but works very smoothly on Windows.

So that's what's keeping me on Windows instead of macOS right now. Maybe it'll change in the future?!
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Graphically, apps like Reaper, Ableton Live, Cubase/Nuendo all operate much more smoothly on Windows with FAR fewer graphical hangups. Zooming and session navigation is so much more smooth.
Are you using a dedicated gpu? Is it Nvidia? As their web drivers are pretty bad to be honest. Some version releases are better than others and of course no Mojave support. I swapped to an AMD Gpu and see no graphical errors or have any slowness in navigation or zooming etc. I also use Live and that's running great. If apps aren't using metal then they would be using opencl I guess? That should run fine anyway.

Or maybe your config file isn't quite right? I switched to the iMacPro1,1 smbios and it is totally the best model ID if you have a dedicated GPU to force hardware acceleration. igpu never really worked that well for me (for quicksync encoding) even when I was sure it was set up correctly.
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Are you using a dedicated gpu? Is it Nvidia? As their web drivers are pretty bad to be honest. Some version releases are better than others and of course no Mojave support. I swapped to an AMD Gpu and see no graphical errors or have any slowness in navigation or zooming etc. I also use Live and that's running great. If apps aren't using metal then they would be using opencl I guess? That should run fine anyway.

Or maybe your config file isn't quite right? I switched to the iMacPro1,1 smbios and it is totally the best model ID if you have a dedicated GPU to force hardware acceleration. igpu never really worked that well for me (for quicksync encoding) even when I was sure it was set up correctly.
RX 580 here (iMac 17,1 SMBIOS). Acceleration is working correctly, it still just doesn't feel as snappy as it does on Windows. This is in line with my experience on actual Macs too though. Performance in Reaper was AWFUL in the GUI department until some of the recent pre-releases where there is now Metal support. It's so much better, but still lags a bit compared to running Reaper on Windows though.

GUI performance is kind of a minor gripe though compared to my grief with trying to screenshare sessions over Discord on macOS. Since Discord doesn't use Metal at all, GPU acceleration is completely disabled on macOS and that's become such an integral part of my workflow when working with remote clients.
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Something that is often overlooked is that Apple make hardware. In my job I deal with over 60 Macs and it is well recognized by management that Macs last longer and require significantly less maintenance. They last. They look good. They work well. They are the industry standard. They are more expensive initially but given the amount of flawless hours you get out of them it is worth it.
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