Old 03-28-2008, 11:32 PM   #1
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It would be great if there was a Reaper rpm for Linux Users using ladspa plugins and having Jack/alsa compatibility...Instead of using wineasio and having to command line your way around. How about it? Reaper for Linux? It would be very cool.....Reply if you agree!
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+1 it would be great!
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definitly +1!
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absolutely +1
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That's a typo, right?

Sure you didn't wanted to type ++1, no?
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I thought it works fine under Wine?
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The core engine works great in Wine, for me it's just the user interface that causes problems (high CPU use, sluggish redrawing).

IMO some kind of hybrid solution would be best, that means the engine would still be running via Wine (with built-in Jack support instead of WineASIO), but all the GUI stuff would be done natively.

The biggest advantage: There would be no need to build an extra engine for Linux, just with additional Jack output and maybe ladspa/dssi/lv2 ability.

I'm not sure what Justin thinks, I predict something between "not within the next three years" and "no way".

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let's get the osx version ready first.
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yes please. after the mac port

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let's get the osx version ready first.
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Reaper for Linux? That would be great! +1
But Windows and Mac versions are more important...
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But Windows and Mac versions are more important...
Yes, those poor fellows need all the help they can get, don't they...

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+1

I'd even say: Drop support for windows and OSX!

Linux runs the same on each and every HW platform, be it
X86, G3/4/5, Sparc, Arm, etc.. and offers the best
realtime performance.

One platform for all users means
=> lower cost for development and support
=> better stability
=> maximum reachable userbase (sales!)

The HW/SW vendors will follow, because they will have to ;-)
(with the same advantages for vendors and users)

You know: chicken <=> egg
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I'd even say: Drop support for windows and OSX!

Linux runs the same on each and every HW platform, be it
X86, G3/4/5, Sparc, Arm, etc.. and offers the best
realtime performance.

One platform for all users means
=> lower cost for development and support
=> better stability
=> maximum reachable userbase (sales!)

The HW/SW vendors will follow, because they will have to ;-)
(with the same advantages for vendors and users)

You know: chicken <=> egg
All salient points Drumfix, dear fellow, and once again you resonate a profound and compelling case. It's easy for us i guess, as we step further along the human evolutionary journey, safe in the knowledge we're intelligent and free, and not enslaved in any shape or form. But I know that you will join me in showing a degree of compassion for those not yet able to throw off the shackles of the big evil, or his mercenary mate, and bask in the soft glow of freedom.
Those poor unfortunate souls, for whom the cold and irritating chime of win starting up represents the digital equivalent of a pharmacutical addiction, fed by fear of the unknown, and compelled by the masses and brutal corporate intent to comply. Or the desperate fruitfuls who yearn for the spinning beachball to stop spinning, and open the programme. Some might view this as an....elegant approach to starting an app, or so the relentless propaganda goes, but then again the poor victims are conditioned to accept this, so we shouldn't be too hard on them.

Drumfix, i entreat you to show some patience with our musical colleagues. They don't know any better, and it's beyond a 'tuxer' to show anything but compassion and sympathy to those less fortunate than themselves.

I join in with a plus 1 for a native linux version of Reaper, but appreciate that the poor, lost, and desperate souls in corporate os land, who yearn for some excitement and stability in their lives, need feeding,
before they lose the will to live.

It would be quite wrong to rub it in.....

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Bug the WINE developers with the graphics performance stuff etc...Linux isn't going to be "big" on the desktop until after 10 years from now or something. More likely is that Apple will be gaining more and more users...
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Bug the WINE developers with the graphics performance stuff etc...Linux isn't going to be "big" on the desktop until after 10 years from now or something. More likely is that Apple will be gaining more and more users...
with the popularity of the EEE pc and low-end pcs shipping with linux,- I wouldn't be so sure..

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EEE pc is popular among geeks who love moding slow HW,
and guess it's not popular enough so they're releasing the windows xp version

maybe it won't take linux 10 more years to become popular and get support from serious companies, but give it another 5 years.
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BTW, I like neither Microsoft or Apple, but Linux isn't a really feasible solution for desktop/audio computing now for me personally, either. Therefore it is not so interesting or even desirable for me to support the idea of a "Linux-native Reaper". Windows XP works for me well enough for now, mostly I'm just using applications anyway, not worrying so much about the operating system.
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+3, and in due time...(edit: due time = after OS X port is done)

Drumfix this is a mostly "windows/OS X" -centric crowd, and while your ideas are feasible, your not winning any supporters (or very few) here. And since my "im so cool i just wanna make music" brethren here won't do it, Let ME say thanks for all you've done on the wineasio front and pushing forward of linux audio my friend!

and brice, jbm...you guys minus one...so your saying there should be no linux version of reaper ever????? say it aint so fellas!

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+3, and in due time...(edit: due time = after OS X port is done)

Drumfix this is a mostly "windows/OS X" -centric crowd, and while your ideas are feasible, your not winning any supporters (or very few) here. And since my "im so cool i just wanna make music" brethren here won't do it, Let ME say thanks for all you've done on the wineasio front and pushing forward of linux audio my friend!

and brice, jbm...you guys minus one...so your saying there should be no linux version of reaper ever????? say it aint so fellas!
and another plus 1 and thanks to Drumfix for the wonderful wineasio utility.

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I'd even say: Drop support for windows and OSX!

Linux runs the same on each and every HW platform, be it
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One platform for all users means
=> lower cost for development and support
=> better stability
=> maximum reachable userbase (sales!)

The HW/SW vendors will follow, because they will have to ;-)
(with the same advantages for vendors and users)

You know: chicken <=> egg
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I'd even say: Drop support for windows and OSX!
I think when I buy a new PC I'm going to try very hard to drop my support for windows. I am definately going to make an effort with Linux. It seems Linux is getting better and windows is getting worse. I think a Linux version of Reaper and Reaper Linux distro that is stripped back and optimised just for audio/video would be coool..... one day....
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I for it but..... I just ordered EZdrummer. But EZ drummer works in MAC. So I'd have to say get the MAC up to speed with the WIN version I guess. I do want to dump WIN in the near future.

Since I use the KORG sythn plug in and now EZ drummer moving to mac makes sense.

Make a Cockos OS and to hell with all of the others!!! LOL!!
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After looking at all the replies at my original post I can see that very few of the posters have been enlightened to the Linux experience. Linux is not just for geeks anymore. Most audio engineers who use windows or mac can just as easily use Linux. The desktop gui is much easier to use now with the latest from gnome, kde, enlightenment, xorg etc. There is a bit of a learning curve using Jack and Alsa but even gear manufacturers are starting to see Linux as a relevant Operating System...Just because it is not as popular in the USA or UK as Windows or Mac, does not mean that it is any less of an O.S...The fact that it can run on older or less powerful computers is a plus for regions of the world that can't afford fancy multiprocessor computers every 2 years...The freedom of open source is also a very relevant issue to the true development of software without the corporate logo. I really don't care if Reaper ever gets ported to Linux - I just happened to like the program and I found it as a great replacement for Cool Edit Pro/Audition...It just seems to me that great software should be available to great Operating Systems. Not just for Bill Gates or Steve Jobs fans...I use Macs, I use Windows XP and I use Linux - Only Linux gives me over 300 different versions to try out and all for the cost of burning a cd...See ya in the Rosegarden....peace/mello
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when linux supports VST in an easy as pie way... I will give my "+1"
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You can program/obtain/use VST plugins on Linux...Just not Windows VSTs... (If you don't count WINE...)
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please get the PC version with less bugs/annoyances first.


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=> maximum reachable userbase (sales!)

The HW/SW vendors will follow, because they will have to ;-)
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You know: chicken <=> egg
ROFL!
over easy please

for most folks linux is too geeky.
for most devs, linux = minimal return on investment.
For some hardware manufactures linux = disclosing Intellectual Property and proprietary secrets.

for music makers that means it will be a dog's age before the professional tools that we know and love to use are ported linux native formats. and about that long before we start to see a significant number of professional studios running linux as their foundation.

alas Linux died for me with RME saying no to Firewire support.

still a ++1 though.

oh, and I can't get cybollic's installer to work at all. I keep getting error messages saying I need to run it as root, even when I run it a s root (tried 3 methods)

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i´ve tried some of the linux audio distros (like agnula/demudi, last one: ubuntu studio - most up to date distro...will run "out of the box" with it´s low latency built kernel) and my conclusio is: linux lacks of a major killer application for audio
most of the software looks (and feel!) like old fashion win95 software, the only exeption is ardour, which sadly looks and feel like a pro tools clone (with poor midi support).

the big problem is to integrate vst(i)-plugins native without wine, but this wouldn´t be ever done, cause of the steinberg license, which is not open source (please correct me, if i´m saying nonsense)

reaper could be THE killer application for linux, starting a new generation of linux audio. but reaper has to be open source for involving all of the genius linux geeks brains....

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felt like doing a little grave diggin here, and revive this thread again.

as far as things have changed, would this be more likely now days?
I know Wine this/ wine that, its just not the same.

I hope to build a new super duper desktop deathstar Music/animation PC and hope to plan it with linux drivers in mind.
I keep windows for reaper only. Oh and my wife has xp on her machine. but native linux support? Why not? I mean mac and windows have to be different enough. I know the devs are busy at the moment, so I was curious what users still thought of this.
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if the devs spent two months implementing linux support instead of features everyone has been asking for for ages, lots of people would be grumpy.

getting audio stable and working under linux is a gigantic pain in the ass (tried it recently). and not many people would use it anyway, really. and the people who would can get 90% of the way there with WINE.
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if the devs spent two months implementing linux support instead of features everyone has been asking for for ages, lots of people would be grumpy.

getting audio stable and working under linux is a gigantic pain in the ass (tried it recently). and not many people would use it anyway, really. and the people who would can get 90% of the way there with WINE.
fair enough, that is what I was wondering.
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Sound interfaces not supported in linux, lack of instruments/effects...
Waste of time.
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Waste of time.
assuming then your threshold for wasting time is different than mine.

I agree about the interface thing, but some work very well.This is a driver support issue that the blame goes to manufacturers.

reaper could bring full vst support into linux, so how would it be short of instruments/effects?

lastly you could agree with me that the linux development model is alot closer to cockos than windows or mac.

that said, I love reaper and as long as it works on xp, its good. (as I bought win 7 only to find out that the online verification update during install crap is impossible for someone like me with slow internet, so I can't install it.)

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assuming then your threshold for wasting time is different than mine.

I agree about the interface thing, but some work very well.This is a driver support issue that the blame goes to manufacturers.

reaper could bring full vst support into linux, so how would it be short of instruments/effects?

lastly you could agree with me that the linux development model is alot closer to cockos than windows or mac.

that said, I love reaper and as long as it works on xp, its good. (as I bought win 7 only to find out that the online verification update during install crap is impossible for someone like me with slow internet, so I can't install it.)

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ps,,,, this is what I asked for , opinions. so thank you
Is it really possible to bring VST support to linux?
Don't get me wrong, I love linux, but I'm just frustrated being not able to use it because this doesn't work or that doesn't work.

I know manufacturers won't make drivers for linux. Some guy e-mailed Creative Labs (the manufacturer of my interface) asking if they are planning to release linux drivers, the answer was short "no".
Now how a company who earns money from sales isn't able to do this, while thousands write software in their spare time?
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With Reaper's low pricing, I think it makes a lot more sense to have a native Linux version than to have a native Mac version. Because mac users obviously think something is better just because it costs more while Linux people like it cheap and know that the price has nothing to do with quality when it comes to software.
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With Reaper's low pricing, I think it makes a lot more sense to have a native Linux version than to have a native Mac version. Because mac users obviously think something is better just because it costs more while Linux people like it cheap and know that the price has nothing to do with quality when it comes to software.
or you could make the argument that linux users have come to expect quality software for free and are unlikely to register.
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