Adjust crossfade time for overlapping or touching items?

[StuhRAH]

Is this option still available? The only SWS action that does this moves the later items, which I don't want. Can crossfades be created without moving any items?

[StuhRAH]

What options do I currently have for crossfading touching items via a key press?

[StuhRAH]

Like Studio One does?

[StuhRAH]

I want to automatically cross fade touching clips without moving anything.

[andyp24]

How about selecting the Left Hand Item and using the Action "Item Edit: Grow right edge of items"

With AutoCrossfade enabled, I'd guess that will create the crossfade you want (can't try it out right now).

(Or you could select the Right Hand item and grow its left edge)

Does this help?

Andy

[StuhRAH]

Originally Posted by andyp24

How about selecting the Left Hand Item and using the Action "Item Edit: Grow right edge of items"

With AutoCrossfade enabled, I'd guess that will create the crossfade you want (can't try it out right now).

(Or you could select the Right Hand item and grow its left edge)

Does this help?

Andy

Thanks for the suggestion, Andy! I haven't tried this yet, does it grow the overlapping sides only? I'll try when I get home.

[vanhaze]

Dunno if this is exactly what you want but i give it a try:

Create this Custom Action and assign it to a keycommand:

- Item: Select item under mouse cursor
- Item: Set item mix behavior to always mix
- Item: Crossfade any overlapping items

So let's say you have 2 items overlapping eachother.
Point your mouse on 1 of them, doesn't matter which one.
(selecting an item by leftclicking is not necessary, just point!)

Execute the Custom Action.

Outcome: a crossfade will be made between the 2 items.

Beware: This only works for just 2 overlapping Items.
If you have let's say 3 or more overlapping Items, it will not work
If there was an Action : select item including all overlapping&underlying items
then you could apply xfade between them more easily.
Maybe this action is scriptable ..

Warm Regards.

[StuhRAH]

Originally Posted by vanhaze

Dunno if this is exactly what you want but i give it a try:

Create this Custom Action and assign it to a keycommand:

- Item: Select item under mouse cursor
- Item: Set item mix behavior to always mix
- Item: Crossfade any overlapping items

So let's say you have 2 items overlapping eachother.
Point your mouse on 1 of them, doesn't matter which one.
(selecting an item by leftclicking is not necessary, just point!)

Execute the Custom Action.

Outcome: a crossfade will be made between the 2 items.

Beware: This only works for just 2 overlapping Items.
If you have let's say 3 or more overlapping Items, it will not work
If there was an Action : select item including all overlapping&underlying items
then you could apply xfade between them more easily.
Maybe this action is scriptable ..

Warm Regards.

Thanks for the detailed response! Yes, unfortunately I usually crossfade lots of little edits together to get rid of any zero-crossing clicks. Here's how studio one handles it:

Clip A: More audio after end of item
Clip B: More audio before start of item


Clip A: More audio after end of item
Clip B: No audio before start of item


Clip A: No audio after end of item
Clip B: More audio before start of item


Clip A: No audio after end of item
Clip B: No audio before start of item

[nofish]

Originally Posted by StuhRAH

Is this option still available? The only SWS action that does this moves the later items, which I don't want. Can crossfades be created without moving any items?

Do you mean SWS: Crossfade adjacent selected items (move later items) ?

This action is actually misnamed currently, it doesn't move items but item edges.

https://github.com/reaper-oss/sws/issues/902

Other than this, maybe
SWS/AW: Fill gaps between selected items (quick, crossfade using default fade length)

[drichard]

This is a feature I have requested as well. I haven't seen how Studio One does this, but I love how Samplitude handles it. You set up an auto Xfade length (default 10 ms) and when you drag one object over another, instead of crossfading the entire overlapping area, the Xfade remains at 10ms unless you adjust it. For example, drag an item over an item by 30 ms, the Xfade area remains 10 ms.

This is an incredible convenience when editing, particularly when fixing timing on guitars, bass lines, etc. It saves a great deal of time. I hope the developers are listening because this is one of the few things Samplitude does much better than Reaper, but it's a big one.

Originally Posted by StuhRAH

Is this option still available? The only SWS action that does this moves the later items, which I don't want. Can crossfades be created without moving any items?

[StuhRAH]

Originally Posted by nofish

Do you mean SWS: Crossfade adjacent selected items (move later items) ?

This action is actually misnamed currently, it doesn't move items but item edges.

https://github.com/reaper-oss/sws/issues/902

This simply isn't true I'm afraid, here is an example:


As you can see, the item is clearly moved to make room for the crossfades.

[StuhRAH]

Originally Posted by nofish

Other than this, maybe
SWS/AW: Fill gaps between selected items (quick, crossfade using default fade length)

I'm afraid this moves the items too:

[StuhRAH]

Originally Posted by StuhRAH

I'm afraid this moves the items too:

So is this a feature request?

[nofish]

Oh right, sorry. I see what you mean in your gif.
I'm not sure but maybe it's because there are stretch markers involved ? (I only tried this action with items not containing stretch markers and there it seems to work, i.e. only moving item edges).

The only other (maybe) alternative I know currently is amalgama's Smart crossfade script, available in ReaPack.

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=195490

[StuhRAH]

Originally Posted by nofish

Oh right, sorry. I see what you mean in your gif.
I'm not sure but maybe it's because there are stretch markers involved ? (I only tried this action with items not containing stretch markers and there it seems to work, i.e. only moving item edges).

The only other (maybe) alternative I know currently is amalgama's Smart crossfade script, available in ReaPack.

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=195490

Thanks for the link! It definitely seems a lot better than the other two options, I've posted in the thread to see if it can be modified to work more like Studio One; the good news is it doesn't move anything, even with stretch markers being used, but at current it just crossfades on the left, which is great! (certainly for transients) but I'll find out if it can be modded to work halfway, ala studio one.

Certainly, this ReaPack script is a LOT better than the other ways of doing this!

[nofish]

Just as a sidenote, I think I found why the SWS action seems to act differently when stretch markers are involved.

The action internally adjusts the start offset of items and obviously there's currently this API bug / quirk:

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=180571

I'll see if I can fix in SWS.

[StuhRAH]

Originally Posted by nofish

Just as a sidenote, I think I found why the SWS action seems to act differently when stretch markers are involved.

The action internally adjusts the start offset of items and obviously there's currently this API bug / quirk:

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=180571

I'll see if I can fix in SWS.

Thank you, that would be great!

[Eraz]

Originally Posted by nofish

Just as a sidenote, I think I found why the SWS action seems to act differently when stretch markers are involved.

The action internally adjusts the start offset of items and obviously there's currently this API bug / quirk:

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=180571

I'll see if I can fix in SWS.

Hey there, are there any news on that?

[Eraz]

Originally Posted by StuhRAH

Thanks for the link! It definitely seems a lot better than the other two options, I've posted in the thread to see if it can be modified to work more like Studio One; the good news is it doesn't move anything, even with stretch markers being used, but at current it just crossfades on the left, which is great! (certainly for transients) but I'll find out if it can be modded to work halfway, ala studio one.

Certainly, this ReaPack script is a LOT better than the other ways of doing this!

I needed this feature too so I tweaked amagalmas script and it should exactly do what you are requesting. With crossfade either on the right, middle or left
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....66#post2221366