Old 12-08-2019, 11:40 AM   #1
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Hi.

It's my first post here. I've lurked a bit and always found the forum supportive and educational.

I am due to receive a new Windows machine (configuration below) this week and am looking for a decent audio interface to use with Reaper.

I might record 1 or 2 instruments/mics/synths simultaneously and would like to have the option of working in 24bit/192khz, with some midi in and outs. I'm assuming firewire or USB?

On my old Windows 7 machine I've been running the M-Audio Delta 66 Omni interface which has been rock solid and I'll be sad not to use it anymore.

I live in the UK and would be happy to spend up to £200.

I'm new to forums in general so I'm sorry if this post is repetitive or wrongly placed.

I'd greatly appreciate any advice. Thank you in advance.

PC configuration:

- TUF Z390M-PRO GAMING LGA1151 Micro-ATX Motherboard
- 9th Gen Core i9 9900K 3.6GHz 8C/16T 95W 16MB Coffee Lake CPU
- Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) Memory Kit
- Palit GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER DUAL 8GB Turing Graphics Card
- Straight Power 11 CM 750W Modular PSU, BN283
- Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200)
- Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit
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Old 12-09-2019, 03:57 AM   #2
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Hi. Here's a recent rundown of some current models: https://www.musicradar.com/news/the-...nners-and-pros

I am sure others will advise on older models that are worth considering.

I would be surprised BTW if a new machine had Firewire.
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Old 12-09-2019, 05:09 AM   #3
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For that money, get a Focusrite Scarlett gen 3 and don't look back. Great preamps, super reliable, a breeze to install. They just work.
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Old 12-09-2019, 11:54 PM   #4
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Thank you both.
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Old 12-10-2019, 12:13 AM   #5
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Offtopic but i am anxious to see DAW performance honest/detailed comparisson tests between I9 9900K and AMD Ryzen 3900X.

Me thinking AMD is really stepping up, against Intel.
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Old 01-03-2020, 07:42 AM   #6
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For that money, get a Focusrite Scarlett gen 3 and don't look back. Great preamps, super reliable, a breeze to install. They just work.

Having just spent two weeks with tech support trying to get this unit to install in my PC, my experience could not be further from the above. I took the device back because I was fed up with installing new drivers, doing updates, and a bunch of other things. I’m currently looking for a USB device as well.
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Old 01-03-2020, 02:56 PM   #7
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Just bought a Steinberg UR242 and it installed without problem first try. The lowest latency I’ve ever had too!
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Old 01-04-2020, 02:03 AM   #8
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Just bought a Steinberg UR242 and it installed without problem first try. The lowest latency I’ve ever had too!
Steinberg's low latency performance is just average ...but the drivers have always been very stable and hardware/conversion/preamps are all fine.

The new MOTU M2 and M4 are an interesting new option for quality of conversion to price ratio and advertised latency is good....but MOTU drivers for Windows have often been problematic and so far this series seems to be no exception.
Hopefully they get this sorted in the next few months with driver updates and these could be a real winner.
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Old 01-04-2020, 04:17 AM   #9
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Stella645, please detail what problems MOTU drivers have in Windows. I've never had a single issue with the drivers using my 1st generation MOTU 8pre. Thanks. MOTU drivers have always proven rock solid on both Win & Mac in my rather long experience.
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In the new MOTU M2, M4 thread at gearslutz, it seems lots of users are losing connection to the interface.

I have an 8A which is advertised as a thunderbolt and USB3 device but on USB3 it is completely hopeless..any change of sample rate leads to complete audio loss.
On USB2 it actually works ok...it has only average latency performance though.

While many manufacturers manage to report latency correctly nowadays, MOTU aren't too good with it. As it's a steady 88 samples out on my 8A regardless of buffer or sr I don't get why it's not written into the driver

And although I haven't had my 8A long enough to have experienced this personally, I've read that latency on the AVB range on Windows was significantly lower in some of the earlier releases but has got worse with subsequent drivers.
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Old 01-04-2020, 11:19 AM   #11
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I bought a Presonus Studio 26c USBc interface a few months back.

Total plug n play, no issues at all.
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Old 01-08-2020, 08:40 AM   #12
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Just in case anyone is following this, I went for the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 3rd Gen USB Audio Interface.

I had no issues installing it and so far it is running well with all my software and games. Seems pretty solid and doesn't take up much desk space.

That's on Windows 10 and you'll find my pc specs in the first post.
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Old 01-08-2020, 09:24 AM   #13
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I got MOTU M4 but it was constantly losing connection so I exchanged it for Steinberg UR44C interface. No issues so far on Windows 10 Ryzen 32gigs ram. In my case the latency with both is the same but Steinberg drivers work great where the MOTU was borderline unusable.
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I'm going to pull the plug on the RME HDSPe AIO PCI-e.
I have a Focusrite 2i2 but I have a lot of outboard that I can't use now that I'm making music and rebuilding my studio right this time.
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I'm going to pull the plug on the RME HDSPe AIO PCI-e.
I have a Focusrite 2i2 but I have a lot of outboard that I can't use now that I'm making music and rebuilding my studio right this time.
I'd get this as well. If you spend so much cash an a 9900k system, you want to pair it with the best performing interface
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Old 01-16-2020, 10:31 AM   #16
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Wow, your configuration is incredible. i9 processor is very powerful (and expensive). How much it cost?
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:51 AM   #17
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I'm going to pull the plug on the RME HDSPe AIO PCI-e.
I have a Focusrite 2i2 but I have a lot of outboard that I can't use now that I'm making music and rebuilding my studio right this time.
If I was doing this again, I think I'd almost certainly go for something with Dante interfacing, and then use as many of these:

https://www.ferrofish.com/

as was needed to give me my analog IO.

(spoken as someone who's currently running 32 channels of adat IO with a Ferrofish and a couple of those old Behringer boxes for all that yummy old hardware)
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Old 01-16-2020, 10:03 PM   #18
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That's one hell of a cpu you're getting there.

I'll reccommend the Audient. I've had a scarlett, Alesis and a Roland quad caprture..

The quad would be my second choice, but the audient is on an other level. Id4 if you're on a budget, or ID14 for the total bomb.

That interface has great preamps, headphone amp and converters. No gizmos and blinking lights, just great fundamentals.

Latency is decent on my puny laptop, and great on my DAW.
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Old 01-22-2020, 09:46 AM   #19
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Thanks for all the suggestions.

If anyone's interested, this is the machine I went for.

https://www.quietpc.com/sys-serenity-mini-s

I think it's a thing of beauty.

The company is based in the UK and is a pleasure to work with.
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