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Old 02-24-2017, 09:35 AM   #1
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Default ReaEQ unresponsive to mouse input

Reaper 5+ up to 5.40pre2 , Windows 7 Pro x64

I had the same problem on my previous system.

After a few hours of use, ReaEQ would often not react to mouse input. Sometimes it might even stop reacting to midi control input.

This only occurs after prolonged use of an open session.

Restarting Reaper and reloading the session fixes the problem. For a while.

I've sent you a link to a licecap and the example session where this occurs. This is the second time I'm reporting this after v5.2.
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Old 02-24-2017, 10:22 AM   #2
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Do you have prefs/automation “allow writing automation to hidden envelopes” enabled? The automation in question is hidden, so when you enter touch mode these envelopes are automatically disarmed (unless allow writing automation to hidden envelopes is enabled).

Assuming you already have that setting set -- instructions to reproduce? Leave the project playing for 4 hours?

when was the last time you rebooted your system? approximately 49 days ago? approximately 25 days ago? or certainly more recent than 25?
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Old 02-24-2017, 02:41 PM   #3
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Do you have prefs/automation “allow writing automation to hidden envelopes” enabled? The automation in question is hidden, so when you enter touch mode these envelopes are automatically disarmed (unless allow writing automation to hidden envelopes is enabled).
It's enabled at all times.


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Assuming you already have that setting set -- instructions to reproduce? Leave the project playing for 4 hours?
I'd been mixing for about 2 hours since the last start of Reaper. The session I sent you via IRC was the last state, in case the session was funny.



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When was the last time you rebooted your system? approximately 49 days ago? approximately 25 days ago? or certainly more recent than 25?
This morning. No server games here .

Here's my Reaper INI.

And a shot of my prefs
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Old 02-24-2017, 04:00 PM   #4
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When it stops responding does it also stop responding in touch mode, or just in latch preview?

Your post is unclear -- does it stop responding to MIDI assignments as well, or not?
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When it stops responding does it also stop responding in touch mode, or just in latch preview?
The same happens in Latch mode. I didn't try Touch this time, but previously Touch had responded the same way. When it happens again, I'll give touch a try once more.


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Your post is unclear -- does it stop responding to MIDI assignments as well, or not?
It responds to midi assignments. A few months ago I had an instance where midi assignments were not working on the fx parameters either. Some did respond, some didn't, all in ReaEQ. I noticed this because I usually have the GUI open for verification.
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Old 02-25-2017, 12:57 PM   #6
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Using 5.34, the error came up again on a ReaEQ instance once more. This after over an hour on the same session with more work done in it.

This time I tested Touch and Latch mode. Both with the same result :

Mouse input was almost ignored, as it kept jumping back to its automation envelope value.

Midi control input worked fine for the same parameters.
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Old 02-25-2017, 08:30 PM   #7
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Using 5.34, the error came up again on a ReaEQ instance once more. This after over an hour on the same session with more work done in it.

This time I tested Touch and Latch mode. Both with the same result :

Mouse input was almost ignored, as it kept jumping back to its automation envelope value.

Midi control input worked fine for the same parameters.
did it jump back to the envelope value almost instantly, or on mouseup?

how does it behave if you switch it to the generic Ui once this occurs? also how about if you manually switch reaeq bands via the tabs?
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Old 02-26-2017, 03:40 AM   #8
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The GUI handles and the sliders jumped back almost instantly. Mouse up made no difference.

I had jumped to the relevant band on the UI and tried the sliders with the same results.


I'll be sure to try the generic UI when it happens again.

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Just had it happen again.

Tried the generic UI. That WORKED.
Not only that but after moving them, the non-generic GUI worked for those parameters again too. I had to move the generic UI slider for every affected parameter first.

Hope that helps.
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Old 03-03-2017, 09:17 AM   #9
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Just a quick report back.

Reaper v5.35 x64 on Win7x64 still has this problem. After some time of use, some GUI controls do not work in Latch, Latch Preview or Touch mode.

This time I got it on the frequency slider of the third band, then it somehow worked again, then the bandwidth didn't. THen band 4 started acting up.

Midi controls still worked all through this.

It was all fixable by switching to the generic UI, touching the controls and then switching back to the GUI. Restarting Reaper worked as well just like before.
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Still mystified by this one...

Next time it occurs, does switching back and forth between ReaEQ band tabs change anything?
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I'll give this a try tomorrow, when/if it happens.
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Old 03-23-2017, 02:43 AM   #12
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Hope you got the dump file I sent you.

I'll switch to v5.40 once it releases.
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Still mystified by this one...

Next time it occurs, does switching back and forth between ReaEQ band tabs change anything?
Airon: did you try that? I forget...
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Airon: did you try that? I forget...
Yep. Didn't do anything. Tried all sorts of combinations.
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Old 04-01-2017, 02:52 AM   #15
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This is still going on in v5.40x64 Win7pro.

I do have each dialogue track midi-learned for dozens of parameters.

All of those work on selected tracks.


In addition to parameter control, I trigger a bunch of Lua scripts and some standard Reaper actions with MIDI triggers. I could send you my keymap.
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Update.

This still happens on v5.70x64 , and it now happens with Fabfilter Pro-Q2. I've sent data and an account of the issue to support at cockos com.
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Old 01-11-2018, 11:13 AM   #17
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There are some known GUI issues with FabFilter I heard of in this thread, are FF plugins always loaded in the project when this occurs? In my instance the entire REAPER GUI freezes so maybe not related. I do have a temporary workaround since it is a temporary freeze (5-30 seconds) which is a button that closes all FX windows and when that finally fires, and closes them the issue goes away until it occurs again.

Likely not the same but just mentioning.
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Old 02-02-2018, 02:58 PM   #18
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I sent in a Licecap and the relevant project file, as this happened again.

Has this happened to anybody else ?

This looks more like an issue on Reapers end, because Reaper is behaving as if READ mode is running for these plugins.

Here is the Licecap for all to see. There is no sound and it's 5 frames per second.

First I demonstrate how the controls behave in READ mode. I click and drag the controls, and just let go of the mouse button.

Then I try the other modes. I also modify the visible envelopes. The playback works fine, but recording to envelopes does now. The exception are track volume/pan. Plugin parameters for the EQ do not. The same thing happened with ReaEQ, and even other plugins but I didn't record that.

From now on I'm recording it every time it happens.

MP4(H264) version, 4.3 MB
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iqlkrmxmk0...0kbit.m4v?dl=0

Licecap (zipped 19 MB)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkhp2i1w2a...ap%29.m4v?dl=0

Play the licecap file by dragging it in to Reaper and watching it on the video window. Set the project fps to 5 is you like.


This stuff only happens if there are a lot of parameters being automated in the session. The more automation changes there are in the session, the faster this seems to pop up, usually in 15 minutes up to several hours after I've loaded the session.

Restarting Reaper always fixes this, at least for a while.
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Old 05-25-2018, 02:18 PM   #19
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A little followup.


This happens for Fabfilter plugins as well now. I don't check all the plugins, because I mostly use controllers now, but this one I do check because I don't have EVERYTHING in Fabfilter Pro-Q2 hooked up to a controller.


The bottom line is that, after a while, Reaper handles input coming from a plugin GUI as if the track was in READ mode.


The parameters bounce back to their envelope values. They don't get 'latched' at all. Only WRITE mode can do that now.

With a session containing more automation it does appear to happen after a shorter amount of time. The tracks have two instances of the same plugin on it.


My system is still Windows 7 x64, running Reaper x64 (now v5.90). Aero is turned on.


A restart of Reaper fixes this.
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Reminds me i have had an occasional issue with unresponsive reaeq nodes with mouse a couple of times. And maybe other fx guis Mac.

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Old 06-04-2018, 03:53 AM   #21
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Have two new aspects of this bug to report.


In Fabfilter Pro-Q2 each band has seven parameters. One of those is SLOPE. I hadn't setup a midi knob to control that yet. When I tried to change it, the thing with Reaper responding to plugin GUI input as if READ mode was active happened.


Two other methods of input that I hadn't thought to try however still worked just fine. Perhaps that helps to spot the bug.


  1. Using the slider GUI (click on UI button in Reaper plugin window frame) still works

  2. Using Parameter FX Knobs in the TCP/MCP still works as well.


Hope that helps.
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