how is the balance of this mix

[for]

i tried to do a mix from a multitrack on https://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms/mtk/

its on this link https://files.fm/u/hce3b4767

Peter White
'The Blues Is A Lady'

can you please advise me how is the balance of this mix?

i also just used stock reaper effects, only eq and compression

I didn't do automation or panning,

i'm more interested about the balance overall

thanks guys

[bolgwrad]

To my ears the vocal is too dry and too up front, throwing the whole mix off.

[for]

Originally Posted by bolgwrad

To my ears the vocal is too dry and too up front, throwing the whole mix off.

yes indeed! i haven't use reverb on anything it could use reverb for sure

regarding balance overall of all the tracks are they weird or they're ok'ish sounding all together

thanks for ur input!

[martmix]

that's sound really good


like bolgwrad said i would 'work' on the vocal sound,EQ,verb
maybe a tad of compression...

this is just a tought..

[for]

Originally Posted by martmix

that's sound really good


like bolgwrad said i would 'work' on the vocal sound,EQ,verb
maybe a tad of compression...

this is just a tought..

cool thanks martmix!

[martmix]

Originally Posted by for

cool thanks martmix!

....👍

[for]

Originally Posted by Abraham Liftin'

I think this is really cool. Absolutely nothing wrong with your voice, but I would turn it down because it's blanketing everything under it. I don't even mind that it's dry for this type of performance. It's just loud to me. I like where and how you chose to double the vocals in certain parts.

Low end is nice, too. Maybe turning down the bass a little bit will allow the drums to punch more. But there's nothing wrong with loud bass if that's what you're going for. McCartney does it all the time.

Good stuff so far. Just needs a few tweaks. Not many, just a few.

its not me btw i just found the multitracks on here! https://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms/mtk/ i liked the tune and wanted to try mix it

yes its all kinda mono and voice indeed covers a lot of things!

bass is loud indeed, i did lower it down a bit after i listened to it a couple of times i also seen it on graph it showed bass frequencies too high!

thanks Abraham!

[for]

Originally Posted by Abraham Liftin'

Oh, I thought it was you. Doesn't matter, we're talking about your mixing. I think you did a great job. If you later turned down the bass, and hopefully the vocals too (since they're so dry, they might give the perception of being louder than they are), you're pretty much there. After that, it's all artistic decisions and personal preferences.

thanks! i did do that a bit + panning hope its better

https://files.fm/u/jjh266yyw

i guess some more automations etc would help it but anyway

good to know its at least an ok level

cheers

[Philbo King]

Musically, performance-wise and sonically it sounds pretty damn good. Great job!
Love me some Blues!

Quibbles:
The bass is a quite a bit too hot, the drums a bit too quiet, so the bass masks the kick a lot. Maybe rebalance the two, cut the fundamental tone (leaving harmonics) on the bass a little, or add a little bit of 'click' to the kick drum.

The cymbals sound a bit strange in the chorus around 2:10 & 3:30, like they have a high pass filter on them or something. Not unartistic, just unusual...

The delay on the vocal is a little 'slapbacky'. Maybe shorten it up slightly?

[lerian]

Voice is better on the second take but still needs a bit more work imo. And its still "too forward". Also +1 on the bass being too hot.

Try using a well mixed reference track of a song similar to this one and A/B test it against it. It will give you lots of insights.

Song is very cool!

[ErBird]

Hi, for. I looked up the "official" mix of this song (cool song) and found it very underwhelming. So here's my attempt at a mix.
Maybe you'll find this useful to compare your mix to or something. Keep working at it, you can improve a lot with more EQ and comp.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VBp...ew?usp=sharing

I always try to use as few tools as possible:
PrimeEQ on every track.
Compression on everything except electric guitars.
ReaGate on the snare.
OrilRiver sparingly for space. Short decay.
Acon Multiply on the Hammond for width.
Absolutely NO bus compression (evil) and nothing on the master bus.

[for]

Originally Posted by Philbo King

Musically, performance-wise and sonically it sounds pretty damn good. Great job!
Love me some Blues!

Quibbles:
The bass is a quite a bit too hot, the drums a bit too quiet, so the bass masks the kick a lot. Maybe rebalance the two, cut the fundamental tone (leaving harmonics) on the bass a little, or add a little bit of 'click' to the kick drum.

The cymbals sound a bit strange in the chorus around 2:10 & 3:30, like they have a high pass filter on them or something. Not unartistic, just unusual...

The delay on the vocal is a little 'slapbacky'. Maybe shorten it up slightly?

i agree, i also had to use span by voxengo to understand how loud the bass was, not mixing in a treated space.

Originally Posted by lerian

Voice is better on the second take but still needs a bit more work imo. And its still "too forward". Also +1 on the bass being too hot.

Try using a well mixed reference track of a song similar to this one and A/B test it against it. It will give you lots of insights.

Song is very cool!

yes i i didn't use reverb which was causing everything to be up front. Comparing with another song would be very helpful indeed. Maybe from same artist too...

Originally Posted by ErBird

Hi, for. I looked up the "official" mix of this song (cool song) and found it very underwhelming. So here's my attempt at a mix.
Maybe you'll find this useful to compare your mix to or something. Keep working at it, you can improve a lot with more EQ and comp.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VBp...ew?usp=sharing

I always try to use as few tools as possible:
PrimeEQ on every track.
Compression on everything except electric guitars.
ReaGate on the snare.
OrilRiver sparingly for space. Short decay.
Acon Multiply on the Hammond for width.
Absolutely NO bus compression (evil) and nothing on the master bus.

very nice balanced! nice mix.

well regading bus compression i might try it sometimes but most times i don't hear any particular result so i remove it, unless i need to control all the peaks together or something, but as u said might not be a great idea


thanks guys

[eq1]

Pretty funny - combine aspects of ErBird's and For's mixes and I think you'd have a winner...

Just low volume casual listening on my monitors: I like the naturalness of For's mix, the dynamics sound a little better than Bird's. But some of the levels are a little off, like the panned wide guitars kind of get lost in places, get too quiet. Plus, the mix overall is probably a bit too stark/dry. On the other hand, Bird's mix has some overall better ambiance/spatial aspects, I think. It's just on the harsh side, and the squashed dynamics thing overall ding the mix...

I'm surprised, though - I rather like them both. They're both on the 'raw' side, I like that. Seems like most of the mixes I hear are some attempt at sounding like American cheese: American 'cheese' is hardly a cheese at all...


edit:

Originally Posted by Philbo King

Quibbles:
The bass is a quite a bit too hot, the drums a bit too quiet, so the bass masks the kick a lot. Maybe rebalance the two, cut the fundamental tone (leaving harmonics) on the bass a little, or add a little bit of 'click' to the kick drum.

The cymbals sound a bit strange in the chorus around 2:10 & 3:30, like they have a high pass filter on them or something. Not unartistic, just unusual...

The delay on the vocal is a little 'slapbacky'. Maybe shorten it up slightly?

All these things caught my ear as well. Bass and kick sound on the porky side. Cymbals and/or hats somewhere in the middle of the song sounded off. Delay on vox, somewhere in middle of song, didn't sound too good to me...