v6.12+dev0704 - July 4 2020

[planetnine]

v6.12+dev0704 - July 4 2020
+ Media Explorer: add option to group favorites at the top
+ Media explorer: add action to insert media into ReaSamplOmatic5000
+ Media explorer: add actions to rescan all databases
+ Media explorer: support assigning shortcuts to actions to rescan database
+ Mixer: add option to show TCP FX parameters with the FX inserts
+ Mixer: remove separate FX parameter section project setting
+ ReaSamplOmatic5000: when dragging files from media explorer, automatically adjust start/end, volume, and pitch
# Area selection: add mouse modifiers to copy areas vertically
# MIDI CC sel: reverse mousewheel direction
# Media explorer: don't show "insert selected portion" actions when selected file is not the same as the previewed file
# Media explorer: fix applying preview volume to media after dragging into REAPER
# Media explorer: fix moving files with UTF-8 paths/filenames to recycle bin on win32
# Mixer FX: restore single click in empty slot behavior [p=2313900]
# REX: fix length of imported media


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[vitalker]

Originally Posted by planetnine

v6.12+dev0704 - July 4 2020

Some formatting would be good: https://codepen.io/X-Raym/full/ggPogG

[Ericson]

My tips and improvements for the Media Explorer:

1. Option to remove file-extension (there is a tab 'type' so there would be no need for it in filename)
2. Spacebar loses ' focus' after pressing a random button (bug) - fixed, thanks devs. Please also fix for routing button, auto play checkbox and start on bar checkbox.
3. Option to sort columns (modal popup)
4. Add column 'last accessed time'
5. Add favorites option at every row (done, thanks devs)
6. Scroll per column width instead per pixel (scroll behaviour like vertical scroll)
7. Graphical db. meter (better view of volume instead of the numerical value)
8. Mute button (clicking around ME without hearing the selected media) - I can now click around without hearing selected item, thanks devs)
9. Auto jump to next file, make it response faster (noticeable gab between play) - fixed, thanks devs. Bug: auto play is on even when checkbox is unchecked)
10. Row (#) number column (sometimes it's easier to remember a row number)
11. Same button graphics as in transport control
12. Forward and backward buttons (ME meets MP)
12. Shuffle button (randomly select a media file)
13. Recently played media files overview
14. Right click > e-mail option (send an audio file to customer via mail app initiated in Reaper)
15. Size all columns to fit (quickly resize all columns width to fit text)
16. Show media file icons of fxchains, NI Kontakt files, etc.)
17. Item checkbox column (add check to multiple media files to review later or to import them all at once)
18. Option to apply an icon to a shortcut (or something else to find shortcut easier than reading text)
19. Option to Integrate FX browser in Media Explorer (then there is no need to keep switching between FX browser and ME)
20. Refresh button (F5 is working, but a seperate button would be nice (for touch screens))
21. Review pane (at bottom) to see how many items there a in current folder, how many is selected, etc.)
22. Right click audio/video file and select 'open in external media player (Winamp)
23. Show/Hide Shortcut pane
24. Time Ruler
25. File hover feedback
26. Option to always display file size in MB instead of KB for smaller files (536.9 KB becomes 0.537 MB or 0.5 MB)
27. Resize view with control>scroll (show different view layouts of the files like tiles view, large icons, etc.)
28. Option to show/hide cell lines (like in Track Manager) (better separation of the rows and columns)
29. Color option per row to make a row /multiple rows standout

[Ericson]

thanks for improving the auto play devs, the noticable gab between play is not there anymore.

There is a bug that auto play is on, even when the check box is unchecked.

[_Stevie_]

@devs: this is something I'm hoping for for a long time.
Could we have an indicator in the MCP (and now also in the TCP), when an FX window is open? Like a change in color of the button.
We have it for "bypass" and "offline", but not for "float fx configuration".
Thanks for considering!

Example:

[Ericson]

When selecting a 'darker' part of the wave form, then it's hard to see the selected wave form. When there is a lighter color wave form, then it's easier to see it when selected. Maybe make the waveform darker when selected?

Also, at the end of the GIF below, the displayed wave form is gone when you go outside of Reaper (if you press once the Windows key, then the wave form is gone). You then need to select the media file and press play to display it again.

[cool]

Thank you, devs!

Now, I found that in some themes the TCP FX text is poorly visible. I think it would be nice to be able to change the color of the TCP FX text separately from MCP FX.



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[horneusz]

+ Media explorer: add action to insert media into ReaSamplOmatic5000

Great!
If it could be configured:
- add to the sampler after the active track
- create a midi track with the sampler (now it's only audio)


And is there any chance that the Rate knob in the media explorer won't disappear at minimum width?

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by horneusz

- create a midi track with the sampler (now it's only audio)

Reaper has no midi tracks.

[horneusz]

Vitalker, thanks for the information, but I know that.

I'll be more precise:
I'd see it just like "Insert virtual instrument on new track" with the input set as midi.

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by horneusz

Vitalker, thanks for the information, but I know that.

I'll be more precise:
I'd see it just like "Insert virtual instrument on new track" with the input set as midi.

Yep, this makes sense.

[bFooz]

When TCP fx height is set as is now and the bg image is taken from MCP, sometimes it must be stretched vertically which makes is disproportional. The best way would be to make TCP fx insert height the same as is in MCP for each theme.

Also notice the text is too close to the left.

[bFooz]

Originally Posted by cool

Thank you, devs!

Now, I found that in some themes the TCP FX text is poorly visible. I think it would be nice to be able to change the color of the TCP FX text separately from MCP FX.



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With the current implementation, this will happen often, since bg images for fx insert buttons are taken from mcp, where they were designed to sit within the fx/sends area which very often has a different color/brightness than the plain TCP track panel.

The solution would be to incorporate the whole fx/sends area from MCP into TCP.

[Vagalume]

how are u inserting fx in the tcp track like that ?

[bFooz]

The rightclick menus in ME got somehow better but there's a long way before they feel finished and are easily usable. It's kind of a systemic thing which I don't think can be resolved by few posts here.

Could we have them customizable?

[bFooz]

Search options in ME should have their own dropdown menu next to the search box.





I was into learning UX just for 2 months or so but I can tell from the way you make things you really seem insensitive to this - what would be the easiest for the user, fastest, lightest on brain. How a user uses the software is different how you the devs use it. It is hard to grasp for me how can this be since you've been doing this for reaper-dev-day 5342 (14 years 228 days 12 hours 50 minutes 0 seconds).

[PhelixK]

Originally Posted by cool

Thank you, devs!

Now, I found that in some themes the TCP FX text is poorly visible. I think it would be nice to be able to change the color of the TCP FX text separately from MCP FX.
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Of course, you’re using themes that isn’t yet prepared for the new features in +Dev. In case the TCPfx feature is rolled out like this, there will probably be adjustments needed for many themes. On that note, I’ve already suggested possibility of Track FX text to be included in Tweaker, here.

A quick and dirty fix could be to engage the full tcp_fxparm_bg, but probably not a wanted solution for many designs.

Other than this I assume we’re at the stage of discussing possibilities and features for the TCPfx, and I hope it’s still open for input and suggestions.

[PhelixK]

Originally Posted by bFooz

When TCP fx height is set as is now and the bg image is taken from MCP, sometimes it must be stretched vertically which makes is disproportional. The best way would be to make TCP fx insert height the same as is in MCP for each theme.

Also notice the text is too close to the left.

Yes exactly. Row height is defined in rtconfig, also the text alignment, both can easily be changed at least for v6. Not sure about older themes, and you may have a point about individual adjusting of row height to match specific gfx that aren’t well suited for scaling. I foresee some tweaking will be necessary for a lot of themes if they should function well with the feature as it is.

[musicbynumbers]

Is it just me or wouldn't the FX parameters now be better served by Horizontal sliders that are the same height as the fx insert boxes rather than double height knobs that are still hard to see even at double size?

I myself would find it easier at a glance to see the parameter value if it was done more like the send slider values are shown but maybe without the knob graphic too?

[musicbynumbers]

Also. When hovering over an TCP or even MCP FX insert. It would be great to see the PDC value for just that one fx shown in the pop up upon hovering over it and maybe even the fx cpu usage at that time?

One more thing to streamline everything a bit?

[PhelixK]

Originally Posted by musicbynumbers

Also. When hovering over an TCP or even MCP FX insert. It would be great to see the PDC value for just that one fx shown in the pop up upon hovering over it and maybe even the fx cpu usage at that time?

One more thing to streamline everything a bit?

I like both of your ideas, also I was thinking to include sliders in this pic, but didn’t do it for now.

Actually, to me, it makes no difference if it’s a knob or a slider, since I only use numbers. Having the sub-listing as I have showed in the example, more info beside settings values could perhaps be included; PDC, modulations, perhaps even a macro (only dreaming here!).

[heda]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

@devs: this is something I'm hoping for for a long time.
Could we have an indicator in the MCP (and now also in the TCP), when an FX window is open? Like a change in color of the button.
We have it for "bypass" and "offline", but not for "float fx configuration".
Thanks for considering!

This would be good to have yes.
But maybe we could think another way to highlight the status, floating, offline, bypassed... instead of a color. Because then We could use colors to support a longtime requested feature to be able to color fx plugins for better organization. I am still hoping this will see the light in a pre release anytime soon.

[z.curve]

Originally Posted by planetnine

# REX: fix length of imported media

Hi, this works absolutely consistently for me now, thank you!

[Archie]

Please
Is it possible to add this behavior when dragging a sample from the media Explorer to the arrange if you hover it between tracks, then a new track would be created between these track ?

[Vagelis]

@ Archie sorry to ask here, which theme are you using? Looks very nice.

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

@devs: this is something I'm hoping for for a long time.
Could we have an indicator in the MCP (and now also in the TCP), when an FX window is open? Like a change in color of the button.
We have it for "bypass" and "offline", but not for "float fx configuration".
Thanks for considering!

Example:

Agreed! This would be great.

Along the same lines - giving us separate WALTER-ability for standard FX vs VSTi's (and maybe even JSFX too?) would be super helpful. Then we can create a different coloured background/text colour for VSTi FX in the MCP (and now TCP too I guess!).

[heda]

Originally Posted by Vagelis

@ Archie sorry to ask here, which theme are you using? Looks very nice.

that is not REAPER

that insert method between tracks is cool

[mabian]

Hello,

I'm posting here because I'm seeing this in the current 0704 pre, any help to understand if it's only me or this version would be welcome for the devs too I guess.

So I'm using ReaGate in a track with 4 channels, 3/4 are receiving sidechain audio and 1/2 are the signal to be gated.
I found that if I tweak the gate filter and enable "preview filter output", as I restrict the filter band by raising hi-pass and lowering lo-pass the signal becomes distorted; I think the sidechain signal should be filtered without any distortion.

It's all fine when the filter is at full bandwidth, any changes to the various settings, even the gate threshold don't change anything on this.

I don't remember this happening in previous versions when I did something similar, and I'm not sure it's right.

Thanks,
Mario

[Archie]

Originally Posted by Vagelis

@ Archie sorry to ask here, which theme are you using? Looks very nice.

GIF made in Studio One.

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by heda

that is not REAPER

Ah i see thanks for pointing out, i liked the midi-audio icons on the tcp panel and the bar at the top of the items. Anyway thanks, back to topic

[musicbynumbers]

A highlight to show which fx are floated would be great agreed!

[bFooz]

TCP fx columns should be visually separated. It's not clear whether are those effect read by lines or by columns.

[ferropop]

Originally Posted by Archie

Please
Is it possible to add this behavior when dragging a sample from the media Explorer to the arrange if you hover it between tracks, then a new track would be created between these track ?

Absolute wholeheartedly +1.

It's getting there!!! With the addition of the automatic Add to New ReaSamplomatic5000, it's very close to a fast creative workflow!

Thank you devs for hearing us out.

[jrengmusic]

Originally Posted by bFooz

TCP fx columns should be visually separated. It's not clear whether are those effect read by lines or by columns.

I believe something like this would make a group of user happy

[bFooz]

Originally Posted by jrengmusic

I believe something like this would make a group of user happy

There are 3 levels of column separation:
1 - dark bg with light separator
2 - button distance - closer within colummn, far away between columns
3 - non-symetrical design of fx buttons

Looks like thoroughly though out design. Good job with this ProTools.

[Denys]

+ Mixer: add option to show TCP FX parameters with the FX inserts

Amazing! Thanks!

Originally Posted by Archie

Please
Is it possible to add this behavior when dragging a sample from the media Explorer to the arrange if you hover it between tracks, then a new track would be created between these track ?

That would be awesome! If not by default, switching to the insert behavior could happen when pressing shift or another key?



Also devs, would it be simple for you to add a spectrogram view in the Media Explorer? Because that would be very useful for many sound designers.

[deeb]

Originally Posted by Archie

Please
Is it possible to add this behavior when dragging a sample from the media Explorer to the arrange if you hover it between tracks, then a new track would be created between these track ?

This would nice !

[Klangfarben]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

@devs: this is something I'm hoping for for a long time.
Could we have an indicator in the MCP (and now also in the TCP), when an FX window is open? Like a change in color of the button.
We have it for "bypass" and "offline", but not for "float fx configuration".

+1 this would be very useful, especially when you have a large tcp/mcp full of tracks/plugins

[Coachz]

Originally Posted by bFooz

There are 3 levels of column separation:
1 - dark bg with light separator
2 - button distance - closer within colummn, far away between columns
3 - non-symetrical design of fx buttons

Looks like thoroughly though out design. Good job with this ProTools.

As long as they had little collapse buttons on them I'd be cool with that

[ovnis]

Is it possible to add this behavior when dragging a sample from the media Explorer to the arrange if you hover it between tracks, then a new track would be created between these track ?

And between two TCP : create a new TCP with ReaSamplOmatic5000 and the sample loaded inside the rompler.

If we drag&drop the sample inside an existing TCP : creation of ReaSamplOmatic5000 and the sample loaded inside the rompler.