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12-30-2018, 05:02 PM
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ctrl-mousewheel is hardcoded and unbindable in main window
By default, in the main context, ctrl-mousewheel is bound to the action "View: Zoom vertically (MIDI CC relative/mousewheel)"
As it happens, this appears to be hardcoded and can't be changed. I can rebind it in the MIDI editor, but in the main window, ctrl-mousewheel seems hardcoded to zoom vertically.
If you remove the ctrl-wheel binding to that action, it still zooms vertically. If you try to bind ctrl-wheel to another action, it still zooms vertically.
Can anyone reproduce this?
Reaper 5.965 on Windows 10 x64 (1803).
Last edited by tack; 12-30-2018 at 06:38 PM.
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12-30-2018, 06:28 PM
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that shouldn't be the case. Remember to change it for both Main action list and MIDI Editor.
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12-30-2018, 06:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EpicSounds
that shouldn't be the case. Remember to change it for both Main action list and MIDI Editor.
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It's working ok in the MIDI Editor, in that I'm able to rebind it. I forgot to mention that this problem only exists in the main window. I'll update the title.
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12-30-2018, 07:55 PM
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Working fine here when the mouse is over the arrange. The scroll wheel functions are hardcoded when the mouse is over TCP.
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12-30-2018, 08:55 PM
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Ah, thanks for checking bFooz. Indeed, you're right, it's only the TCP where the behaviour is hardcoded.
Is it just me or does this violate the Principle of Least Astonishment?
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12-31-2018, 03:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tack
Is it just me or does this violate the Principle of Least Astonishment? 
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I have learned not to look for things like that in Reaper.
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12-31-2018, 09:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bFooz
I have learned not to look for things like that in Reaper.
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Sage advice.
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01-07-2019, 09:14 AM
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Got the same, thanks for the tip ! But IMO it can be considerate as an issue more than a feature....
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01-07-2019, 09:41 AM
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An extension plugin can prevent the TCP from seeing Ctrl+Mousewheel events. I made this after accidentally messing up my track heights too many times: https://github.com/cfillion/tcp_mw_inhibitor/releases.
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01-07-2019, 10:09 AM
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In Reaper Preferences/Editing Behavior/Mouse
This preference:
Control + left-click emulates right-click (control key will be unavailable as a modifier)
This is written confusingly bass ackwards IMHO. Should read something more like: "Enable control key for additional modifier in Reaper (control key will be disabled from default OS modifier key)" and the tickbox should work the opposite.
Normal operation right now is with the box ticked. Control-click opens context menus by default. The default mouse shortcut is the right-click button emulates control + left click. Unticking this box currently disables control-click (right-click) from the OS modifier to open context menus and instead lets Reaper use the control key for additional modifiers.
This was a frustrating few day search a while back when I 'broke' right-click menus by ticking this box! (Oh, another modifier key for Reaper? Sure why not! ... Right-click menus are why not.)
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01-07-2019, 10:28 AM
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I actually leaned to use this, when I wheel over the arrange, the scroll goes horizontally, over TCP vertically.
IMO TCP should not be considered as the arrange but rather give it its own mouse modifiers section.
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01-07-2019, 12:05 PM
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@cfillion: I've tested, but the problem is that your plugin block all mousewheel even on TCP, I'd like to have ctrl+mousewheel just zoom the selected track(s). But thks for the tip
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12-05-2020, 05:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfillion
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Argh, I'm so glad to see you had the same problem - and then fixed it with a custom DLL thingamabob! I was beyond stoked to make use of it, and hastily put it into the UserPlugins folder in the roaming resource path app dir (just like the text file in the reaper/plugins folder schooled me to do).
But it doesn't seem to work! I don't see any option to enable this anywhere, and ctrl+mousewheel still messes with my TCP. What piece of the puzzle am I missing?
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12-05-2020, 06:07 AM
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It's only compatible with REAPER v5 currently. I haven't migrated to v6 myself yet so I haven't updated the plugin.
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10-30-2021, 05:17 AM
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Is it possible to invert the scrolling when used ctrl+mousewheel on TCP?
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09-18-2023, 05:58 AM
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