FL Studio Theme - Beta 4

[lucas_LCS]

Originally Posted by Mordi

There we go. I like this differentiation of the knobs, although they are currently no different when at zero.


Now they're different at zero.

I like the idea, but the vol knob behaves like a pan/width knob.
It should start it's sweep from the bottom left and go all the way to bottom right.

While either knob will work for the pan, I think the 'ring' style sweep would work better for the vol knob.

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[AugerJ]

Mordi, with FX turned off it's hard to see the letters ("FX").
Maybe, some 3D effect will make them stand out more?

[Mordi]

Originally Posted by vanhaze

Mordi, awesome Job man, i wish you fun and succes with developing your FL Theme further.
Looking forward to a release !

Thanks a lot, vanhaze!

Originally Posted by lucas_LCS

It should start it's sweep from the bottom left and go all the way to bottom right.

Could you show an example? How would it look if you were to turn the volume down?

Originally Posted by AugerJ

Mordi, with FX turned off it's hard to see the letters ("FX").
Maybe, some 3D effect will make them stand out more?

Yeah, everything is in the background, in a way. I've been thinking about visibility, and I for me personally I want a low-contrast theme. I don't know how it will end up - I'm still experimenting with it.

Made the grid look just like FL, with some slight alteration. There is a preference for setting every 8th bar to a different color, which really helps.


Here's a full picture of how it looks as of right now.

[tonybeepbeep]

Following this with a lot of interest

[Odys]

Hey, change mute button to this little led , that would be so cool :P

Mock-up:

[Mordi]

Originally Posted by tonybeepbeep

Following this with a lot of interest

Great! Seems like it's not only me who likes FL's looks.

Originally Posted by Odys

Hey, change mute button to this little led , that would be so cool :P

Mock-up:

Ha, nice. Early on, I was considering this. I did actually make the graphic for it - but I was going to use it for the record arm button, which didn't quite work.

It's a nice idea! I felt like it would be a bit too unfamiliar for Reaper folks, but I think I could get used to it.

I tried making a quick version of it:


It's in the wrong spot, but - could work. At least it's true to FL Studio.

[Nostrap]

Yeah if you plan on using that light instead of mute, it might be nice if it was an option or something. Personally, I'm not a fan of it. I like my TCP to be low contrast in the default state and prefer the previous look of the mute button

[JayJSE2]

Originally Posted by Mordi

I tried making a quick version of it:


It's in the wrong spot, but - could work. At least it's true to FL Studio.

Just an idea if you're going to take that any further, if you made the "on" [i.e, pressed] image a red circle, it might make it a bit clearer. Also, it could mean that the "m" on the track meter isn't necessary, meaning that the tcp looks even less cluttered.

Anyway, it's looking great so far! I'm looking forward to seeing a completed version.

[poetnprophet]

Originally Posted by Mordi

Great! Seems like it's not only me who likes FL's looks.



Ha, nice. Early on, I was considering this. I did actually make the graphic for it - but I was going to use it for the record arm button, which didn't quite work.

It's a nice idea! I felt like it would be a bit too unfamiliar for Reaper folks, but I think I could get used to it.

I tried making a quick version of it:


It's in the wrong spot, but - could work. At least it's true to FL Studio.

I personally like it and like that's it's true to FL.

[lucas_LCS]

Originally Posted by Mordi

Could you show an example? How would it look if you were to turn the volume down?

sorry, don't have time to make it look better, but should give the general idea.

[lucas_LCS]

Originally Posted by Mordi

Ha, nice. Early on, I was considering this. I did actually make the graphic for it - but I was going to use it for the record arm button, which didn't quite work.

I liked it as the recarm button, doesn't work for me as the mute button.

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[poetnprophet]

Originally Posted by lucas_LCS

I liked it as the recarm button, doesn't work for me as the mute button.

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It's not necessarily a "mute" button as it is an "on" button....so it's definitely not for everyone, but if you're familiar with FL, then it will make a lot of sense.

[Mordi]

Originally Posted by Nostrap

Yeah if you plan on using that light instead of mute, it might be nice if it was an option or something.

Yup. Maybe as a layout that emulates the FL way as close as possible.

Originally Posted by JayJSE2

Anyway, it's looking great so far! I'm looking forward to seeing a completed version.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by lucas_LCS

sorry, don't have time to make it look better, but should give the general idea.

Ah, okay. Yeah, that makes sense I guess - but I would not prefer this. I've been using arsen's "Fusion" theme for years, so everything I do is a bit colored from that, since I'm so used to the visual language it uses.

Here's how the theme looks in my Affinity Designer project.


Edit: Experimentation with the TCP.

[Mordi]

Skinned the scrollbars. The TCP and arrange views are fairly complete now.

[vanhaze]

Woohoo, looking really nice mate, thanks !

[Alez156]

You are killing it!!

[Mordi]

Originally Posted by vanhaze

Woohoo, looking really nice mate, thanks !

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Alez156

You are killing it!!

Thanks a lot, Alez!

Started working on the items. Experimenting with how to make it apparent that items are selected. The green color could be used to signify selection clearly, regardless of item color.

[Skorobagatko]

Originally Posted by Mordi

Thanks!


Thanks a lot, Alez!

Started working on the items. Experimenting with how to make it apparent that items are selected. The green color could be used to signify selection clearly, regardless of item color.

Looks very nice, also like the item's vol knob.

[b0se]

Looking great dude!

Like the bar of text above media. May I ask how you did that?

[Mordi]

Originally Posted by Skorobagatko

Looks very nice, also like the item's vol knob.

Thanks! I'm gonna swap out the volume knob with one that looks like the TCP ones at some point.

Originally Posted by b0se

Looking great dude!

Like the bar of text above media. May I ask how you did that?

Thanks! I did that by using yellow lines, like so:


The yellow lines on the bottom is a personal preference of mine; I like how the items align with the grid when the item has 1px extra at the right end.

A nice surprise was that they actually disappear when the label disappears!


Edit: You also need to set some preferences for this to work (thanks to Odys for posting this).

[Odys]

Labels above are unselectable
Smaller item bigger problem

Originally Posted by Mordi

A nice surprise was that they actually disappear when the label disappears!

That why I added line on the bottom

4 pixels separation

Item looks selected no matter the scale

[b0se]

Makes sense, thanks!

[Mordi]

Originally Posted by Odys

That why I added line on the bottom

4 pixels separation[/IMG]

That's a novel idea. I took some care in making the item darker when it is selected to get around this - we'll see how well it works after some testing.

Edit: Added new item icons.




Edit: Made a shoddy monitor-fx button. Here's how everything looks so far:

[emwhy]

Which PNG image did you modify to get the title bar for the media items. I love that concept, SONAR uses it, but I never knew how to do that in Reaper. It looks great in your theme.

[Odys]

item_bg_sel.png
item_bg.png

[Mordi]

Originally Posted by emwhy

Which PNG image did you modify to get the title bar for the media items. I love that concept, SONAR uses it, but I never knew how to do that in Reaper. It looks great in your theme.

Thanks, emwhy. See Odys post above, and also this post.

The only bummer is that you can't grab the item using the faked title bar, but I haven't had any issues while testing so far.

I mostly work with tiny track sizes though, like this:

[emwhy]

The only bummer is that you can't grab the item using the faked title bar

I think there's a way with mouse modifiers where the item can only be moved by dragging the top portion. I will have to look that up, it's been a while since I've messed with the programs functionality.

And thanks for the info on how to create this look. I use Albert's Pro Tools X theme which I modified a lot, so this will give me one more excuse to play around with the PNG files for items.

[Mordi]

Making some progress on the MIDI editor.

[Tobbe]

Looks amazing. Are you gonna make "ghost notes" more present like they are in FL Studio? Now they are very hard to see. I'm colorblind so they need to see, maybe in another color.

Thanks

[Mordi]

Thank you, Tobbe. That’s a preference you can set. It was set to 2 in the image, afaik. It goes from 1 to 3, I believe.

Edit: Made some progress on the toolbar icons and the MIDI editor.

[smasha]

Love those volume graphics,would be cool if you used the pan graphics for movement on the volume and pans but your new graphics in a different colour within the pan dial for pan width.

Probably can’t be done though and a bit fiddly with those small dials but it would be cool for visual representation anyway.

[Mordi]

Thanks, smasha. Maybe I'm slow, but I don't quite get your idea. You're right that I need a dial for width though - not sure how that should look.

Implemented the small general buttons.


I'll have to fix how these ended up, though.


I'm not a fan of colons, so I removed those using a language pack.

[Herr Nox]

Originally Posted by Mordi

Thanks, smasha. Maybe I'm slow, but I don't quite get your idea.

I believe he means that your volume knob uses a "pie chart" effect and your pan knob uses a circular line. And he would like both to have the pie chart effect.

[Mordi]

Originally Posted by Herr Nox

I believe he means that your volume knob uses a "pie chart" effect and your pan knob uses a circular line. And he would like both to have the pie chart effect.

Ah, okay. Yeah, I might experiment some more with my knob.

More work on toolbar icons:


Edit: Started working on envelope control panels:


Edit: After some testing I have a note to self:
- When peaks are zoomed in, and items are thin it's impossible to see what's selected and what's not. Need to differentiate peaks colors.

[emwhy]

Mordi, I was able to create the fake title bar on the item_bg.png files, but the peaks from the waveforms display over the title bar with files that are over a certain DB level. Is there a way around this with the png file or is a WALTER thing? Thanks in advance.

[Odys]

Originally Posted by emwhy

Mordi, I was able to create the fake title bar on the item_bg.png files, but the peaks from the waveforms display over the title bar with files that are over a certain DB level. Is there a way around this with the png file or is a WALTER thing? Thanks in advance.

Title bar has to be over yellow lines https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...6&postcount=60

You also have select to draw item label above item in options

[emwhy]

Ah Ha!! Got it! Didn't see the bit about the tweak in settings. I have it looking the way I want it now. Thanks guys, love how this makes the program look for me.

[AugerJ]

If you don't mind me asking... What are the benefits of a "content-free" title bar?
In REAPER and in Pro Tools the item (region in PT) name takes just as much space as it needs, which I find perfect.
In Logic, on the other hand, no matter how long the region (item in REAPER) is and how short its name the whole lane is dedicated to those few digits.
I fail to see any use in it. In my opinion, it only eats up screen space (track by track by track, etc).
And if I remember correctly, in Cubase you can switch between the modes and in Logic you can't (which I see as a downside.)

Am I missing something here?
Some additional functionality?..

[emwhy]

Not sure what you mean by content free. Mine, even with the new title bar still displays he name of the file and whatever icons I select for muting, adding fx, locking, grouping etc.

[AugerJ]

Originally Posted by emwhy

Not sure what you mean by content free. Mine, even with the new title bar still displays he name of the file and whatever icons I select for muting, adding fx, locking, grouping etc.

Audio items consist of audio (waveforms) and MIDI items consist of MIDI (bars like in PianoRoll), that's their content.
Locking and muting indicators etc. shouldn't be that wide so they would take the whole screen-wide lane.
In my opinion.

How many indicators are there anyway, fifty?