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07-13-2017, 08:58 AM
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v5.50rc7 - July 13 2017
v5.50rc7 - July 13 2017
# Automation items: fix "reduce number of points" dialog for selected points in looped automation item
# Automation items: fix possible crash when using customized context menu [p=1864131]
Full changelog HERE
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07-13-2017, 09:01 AM
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Seeing that this could go live at any minute I'd like to reiterate the discussion we had about the selection of media items and automation items. I think it's really important to solve this before the release.
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07-13-2017, 09:57 AM
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Wow- Now that's what I call a changelog 7
out now
These auto items have had a lot of attention..is all well now? =)
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07-13-2017, 11:47 AM
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Is this intended behavior?
Empty automation items contain a constant value, but that value is not shown to user. And the hidden value is not connected to the underlying envelope even when "attach to underlying envelope" is selected.
jnif
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07-13-2017, 01:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jnif
Empty automation items contain a constant value
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The envelope is set to its default value within empty automation items.
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07-13-2017, 01:42 PM
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Shouldn't that then be shown within the AI then, when all points are removed?
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07-14-2017, 03:16 AM
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Point selection in AI and Reduce still do strange things.
If you select a subset of previously selected points (or the same set) the function "Reduce number of points" still ignores the selection. However, the selection seems to work with other operations (moving etc.) and they even fix it.
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07-14-2017, 03:34 AM
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This situation also doesn't feel quite right:
There are 7 selected points but it actually works as two separate selections (4 point outside AI and 3 within AI).
Do you have any plan how to make it more elegant?
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07-15-2017, 02:46 AM
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Strange behavior when 'Envelope points move with media items' enabled.
gif: https://goo.gl/7r1H1Z
reaper project: https://goo.gl/kjrSoH
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07-15-2017, 02:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gunny
This situation also doesn't feel quite right:
There are 7 selected points but it actually works as two separate selections (4 point outside AI and 3 within AI).
Do you have any plan how to make it more elegant?
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Yes, in this case, if AI is selected, it should take precedence over the underlying envelope.
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07-15-2017, 12:24 PM
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Dear Cockos,
I just noticed this faulty behaviour for me, regarding right-mouse drag setup in Mouse modifiers:
https://i.imgur.com/NaY1DvV.png
So in Mouse Modfiers, i have setup Context: Arrange View > right drag > default action:
"Marquee select items ignoring snap" ("set time selection" isn't ticked !!)
Strange outcome: in the Behaviour area you can read "marquee select items and time ignoring snap"
That's not right.
Further outcome for me: When i right mouse drag in Arrange, there is also a time selection made, besides the marquee selection.
This isn't right ..
Could you please have a look at this issue ?
Many thx in advance !
Reaper 5.50RC7
OSX 10.12.5.
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07-18-2017, 09:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
Dear Cockos,
I just noticed this faulty behaviour for me, regarding right-mouse drag setup in Mouse modifiers:
https://i.imgur.com/NaY1DvV.png
So in Mouse Modfiers, i have setup Context: Arrange View > right drag > default action:
"Marquee select items ignoring snap" ("set time selection" isn't ticked !!)
Strange outcome: in the Behaviour area you can read "marquee select items and time ignoring snap"
That's not right.
Further outcome for me: When i right mouse drag in Arrange, there is also a time selection made, besides the marquee selection.
This isn't right ..
Could you please have a look at this issue ?
Many thx in advance !
Reaper 5.50RC7
OSX 10.12.5.
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Yes, it should be called Set time selection ignoring snap, there is only ignoring snap so it sounds like someone wants select marquee items ignoring snap ;D and what for? For sure, set your modifier to just marq selct items and dont worry
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07-18-2017, 11:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
So in Mouse Modfiers, i have setup Context: Arrange View > right drag > default action:
"Marquee select items ignoring snap" ("set time selection" isn't ticked !!)
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Good catch, thanks.
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07-18-2017, 11:24 PM
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Many thx schwa for looking into it !
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07-19-2017, 04:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Embass
Strange behavior when 'Envelope points move with media items' enabled
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That is because of the minimum automation item length of 0.1 second. Mercado Negro brought up other problems with the minimum length, so I think we need to make it smaller -- maybe 0.01 second?
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07-19-2017, 08:03 AM
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Yeah, maybe
What about marquee selecting items vs AIs? Will this stay as is or will there be an option for context-sensitive marquee?
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07-19-2017, 10:01 AM
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is this the right place to ask question about automation items?
I notice there are separate actions for duplicating AI's. So are people making macro's or new keyboard shortcuts just for duplicating AI's like they would standard items?
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07-19-2017, 10:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gwok
is this the right place to ask question about automation items?
I notice there are separate actions for duplicating AI's. So are people making macro's or new keyboard shortcuts just for duplicating AI's like they would standard items?
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I'm wondering about this too - having separate actions for copy/pasting AI should definitely exist for macros/scripting, but shouldn't the default Ctrl-C/V actions operate on both Media and Automation items the same way? Like are we supposed to assign a different shortcut specifically for copy/pasting AI? (because that is not good)
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07-19-2017, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ferropop
are we supposed to assign a different shortcut specifically for copy/pasting AI? (because that is not good)
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my thoughts exactly
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