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Old 03-23-2020, 10:22 PM   #1
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I'm new to Reaper but have been using Linux nearly exclusively for about 20 years. I have decided to go with Reaper on a Raspberry PI 4 platform and have been delighted with the performance and utility of this combination. Sure some things have not worked but the ppl at RPI are fixing the issues and progressively the combination is working sufficiently well that I can begin climbing the Reaper learning curve.

So Raspberry PI is an ARM based platform and the Reaper version is working very well.

My question is: are the various plugins (eg TAL) only applicable to a specific hardware eg x86 only. I'm guessing that this is the case given what I have seen in terms of Linux plugin download sites so am I correct in assuming no plugins would be available (as yet..) for ARM processor platforms.

A related question since it is also ARM based - is Reaper an option on the Microsoft Surface Pro X?

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Old 03-24-2020, 01:05 AM   #2
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Windows on ARM is a really interesting issue to be discussed (not only regarding Reaper).

I read that standard 32 Bit Windows programs work astonishingly well on the ARM Surface in emulation mode.

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Old 03-24-2020, 06:24 AM   #3
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I'm not a plugin developer, but as far as I know, VST plugins are compiled binaries, so they would be platform and architecture dependant.

Reaper's own (and the community's) JSFX plugins, however, are scripts rather than compiled code, and should be platform independent.
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Old 03-24-2020, 07:16 AM   #4
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Plugin selection for Raspberry Pi is pretty limited. Besides the native plugins and JSFX, about the only thing specifically compiled for ARM is Pianoteq.

You can install Carla though and load SF2/SFZ files which will play pretty well. As for loading any VST/VSTi plugins in Carla, the problem will still be compatibility with the ARM architecture.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:57 PM   #5
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Thanks for the replies.

Yes of course the Java Script plugins would be platform independent doh - this came to me after I posted. I'll dig around for JSFX and Pianoteq.

I have to say the Reaverb option with zero latency option looks interesting especially if Impulse Response samples are available from some of the classic audio tools.

The supplied plugins so far are providing a lot of scope already, enough to make good use of Reaper for my purpose. I don't have the need for a specific guitar cabinet emulation just yet, but some of the demos from plugin makers do sound sweet.

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Old 03-25-2020, 01:44 AM   #6
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LSP plugins are available for RaspBerry.
https://lsp-plug.in/
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Java script plugins are very rare if existing at all.

I suppose you mean Reaper JSFXes (which are EEL "scripts" to be compiled to very fast native code when loading).

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You ought to be able to compile linux vst plugins from source format.

I'd imagine that reaverb could load cab impulses too.
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Reaper JSFXes (which are EEL "scripts" to be compiled to very fast native codel)
Good to know - I had assumed JSFX were Java. Tnx
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You ought to be able to compile linux vst plugins from source format.
I plan to look into that.

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I'd imagine that reaverb could load cab impulses too.
Yes I did mention that option. Actually reaverb in my version 6.05 seems to be broken. It did work in earlier versions.
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Probably not entirely on thread but one of my major needs is a piano synth. Do any of the native plugins allow usage with sf2 files?

I have some very good pianos in sf2 files but have not figured a way to either pipe through an external synth (eg reaper midi -> fluidsynth -> reaper audio) or make use of the sf2 library in reaper.

ReaSamplOmatic5000 does not seem to be an option since it does not seem to integrate the pedal correctly, well at least I have not been able to discover how. Linking the pedal to 'note off' in the effect does not work correctly.

ReaSynth does not come close to piano.
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Probably not entirely on thread but one of my major needs is a piano synth. Do any of the native plugins allow usage with sf2 files?

I have some very good pianos in sf2 files but have not figured a way to either pipe through an external synth (eg reaper midi -> fluidsynth -> reaper audio) or make use of the sf2 library in reaper.
You can get Carla for Raspberry Pi and it supports SF2 files.

All it takes to make that happen is to add KXStudio repositories to your Pi, do an apt update, install Carla and add it's .so location to REAPER's VST search paths. Then Carla Rack shows up in REAPER for ARM as a VSTi plugin where you can load SF2/SFZ files among other things.
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Old 04-03-2020, 09:14 PM   #13
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You can get Carla for Raspberry Pi and it supports SF2 files.
You told me that previously - doh. I guess I missed the sf2/sfz part. Thanks again, I'll give it a go.
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