chord progressions with script

Dragonetti · 08-06-2022, 09:07 AM

is there a script that can create chord progressions
with the help of such harmony rules? if not, does
anyone have an idea how to program something like this?
the symbols should appear as text items in a track.
see reaComposer

Rockum · 08-06-2022, 10:27 AM

Yes, I have one I am working on right now. Want to test an alpha version?

Dragonetti · 08-06-2022, 12:13 PM

I am on my way.
After that I would be very interested.
Do the chord symbols appear as text items?

Rockum · 08-06-2022, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonetti

I'm still 1 week away.
After that I would be very interested.
Do the chord symbols appear as text items?

Yes, although they are number based, which I would highly recommend for beginners and advanced composers as well.

Freiin · 08-08-2022, 12:05 AM

well, i'm very interested at that! Can't wait. This will save a lot of time when editing/composing the right chords.

arsenaultk9 · 08-09-2022, 10:28 AM

Hey @Dragonetti from which source did you get that diagram?
It seems quite useful for automatic music generation as well as applying chord progression analysis.

Btw, your plugin reaComposer seems very promising. I will have to try that someday.

Rockum · 08-10-2022, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by arsenaultk9

Hey @Dragonetti from which source did you get that diagram?
It seems quite useful for automatic music generation as well as applying chord progression analysis.

Btw, your plugin reaComposer seems very promising. I will have to try that someday.

I am not a huge fan of the chart. Every genre and style has it's own set of patterns that are typical to it. My guess is that the chart represents trends during the classical period. You will notice that there is no progression from G to F in C. In more current music that progression is pretty popular. 5 moves to 4 about 18% of the time.

I highly recommend taking a look at:

https://www.hooktheory.com/trends#key=Rel&scale=major

It will very quickly give you an idea of how chords tend to move in their database of 1000s of popular songs.

arsenaultk9 · 08-11-2022, 07:04 AM

Hey thanks a lot, exactly what I needed.

Dragonetti · 08-16-2022, 08:54 AM

@Rockum
I'm very interested, also in an alpha version.

Rockum · 08-16-2022, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonetti

@Rockum
I'm very interested, also in an alpha version.

Hey, do me a favor. Give me the names of a few of your favorite freeware virtual instruments you already use and your favorite freeware reverb and I will set up a kit for you and send you what you need to try out the alpha. The early version won't give you rules or trends but that is on the way as well.

Dragonetti · 08-17-2022, 01:20 AM

I use
Dragonfly Reverb by Michael Willis and synth1 , surge, "The Deputy Mark II"(fullbucket), Zebralette.
If you still have a recommendation, I can also quickly install it.
Thanks

Rockum · 08-18-2022, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonetti

I use
Dragonfly Reverb by Michael Willis and synth1 , surge, "The Deputy Mark II"(fullbucket), Zebralette.
If you still have a recommendation, I can also quickly install it.
Thanks

Roughly how many tracks should I put. Faster or slower machine?

If you have lua experience I could tell you how to build your own setup. Either way. I know there's a good bit of time zone difference but if you wanted we could even discord Saturday. Some of the guys in the reascript discord servers have seen a video but you'd be the first to try it. I will try to add the chord trends suggestions feature Friday. I have an idea how to do it if I don't get bogged down with the Imgui part.

You'll probably find the following useful...

Insert piz here midi vst via GitHub.
STFU vst KVRaudio developer challenge winner
Padsynth jsfx
Librearp vst
Airwindows collection vst

All great plugs all free and I think all cross platform.

Rockum · 08-20-2022, 03:45 PM

Here are two reapack repositories I would grab too.

https://geraintluff.github.io/jsfx/index.xml
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RC...ster/index.xml

Rockum · 08-20-2022, 04:21 PM

Was able to add the theory "rules"...

Dragonetti · 08-21-2022, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockum

Was able to add the theory "rules"...

Wow, that looks good.
Are your chord symbols also displayed in the arranger window, like in my "ReaComposer".
Reascript discord servers I do not know , is that a live chat?
I am not so fit in English that I would be suitable there.
Maybe normal over the forum.
Another thing would intress me:
How could you integrate the modulation from one key to an other?
I found something here.
https://music.tutsplus.com/tutorials...s--audio-23025

Rockum · 08-21-2022, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragonetti

Wow, that looks good.

Thanks

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Are your chord symbols also displayed in the arranger window, like in my "ReaComposer"?

No. There is no initial display of chords. You simply type the chords you want.

For example if you wanted a bar of G major, a bar of Am7, a bar of C major and a bar of Dsus in the key of G you would simply type:

Key: G
1 2m7 4 5sus

Your chords would all be placed with color-coded chord markers. Regions would be created when indicated. MIDI tracks would be created and assigned and routed to your chosen instruments and effects.

I'll pm you a video link.

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Reascript discord servers I do not know , is that a live chat?

You can voice chat but I think it is even more commonly used to type back and forth live... but no worries. I'll still set up a project for you and try to get it to you this week.

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Another thing would intress me:
How could you integrate the modulation from one key to an other?

I don't support key change yet, and I am not sure I will... I would like to but one of the main reasons I am creating this is to get students to think relatively instead of absolutely regarding pitch. So I am hoping to automatically change the theme MIDI note colors so that the tonic of the key is always red. The second / supertonic will always be orange. The third / mediant always yellow... etc.

I'm not sure if changing themes in the midst of playback is a good idea.

Let me think more about it... I still have quite a few features left to add, but I already find it useful. Hope you will to.

Dragonetti · 08-21-2022, 03:55 PM

I like that you have your students learn pitch relatively instead of absolutely.
Maybe I could color my chord symbols as well.
Let's see.

I just found an easy-to-implement modulation style in a music theory book.
Free insertion of the dominant seventh chord of the target key.

https://youtu.be/Toa-4S2yz6c

lunker · 08-21-2022, 05:46 PM

Wow! This is a blast from the past. I remember finding these diagrams about 15 years ago.

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Originally Posted by arsenaultk9

from which source did you get that diagram?

I don't think anyone's answered this yet. The diagram (and lots of other stuff) can be found here:

https://mugglinworks.com/chordmaps/
https://mugglinworks.com/chordmaps/chartmaps.htm (major keys)
https://mugglinworks.com/chordmaps/minorchartmaps.htm (minor keys)

Rockum · 08-22-2022, 10:47 AM

The charts are great for learning what was done in classical music in the common practice era. If you want to learn the trends for music from 1650 to the late 1800's they're perfect. If you want to learn what is done in popular music, they aren't nearly as helpful. More current trends tend to vary greatly and be genre specific.