Old 01-31-2018, 01:53 AM   #1
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Here in the studio we are switching from Pro Tools to Reaper and we are so glad about it. This forum has been a great help. However, there are things that we need to figure out yet. Probably because we need to think differently.


Is there a way to switch monitoring in a track from what’s in its input to what’s actually placed in the track? For instance, let’s say we have these tracks for our mix:

1 Music + FX
2 Dialogue
3 Reverb aux
4 Rec dialogue (Recording Track 2 + Track 3)
5 Rec mix (Recording Track 1 + Track 4)

And we want to punch in (we are actually recording audio from the rest of the tracks in tracks 4 & 5) because we did change a small part in dialogue track. We can play it and hit record wherever we want and the punch is done, but problem is that while we are playing we hear audio twice. Only when you hit record you hear it just once.
Only way that we could think of is mute items in tracks 4 & 5 before recording. Is that so?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-31-2018, 04:20 AM   #2
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Hi all!

Here in the studio we are switching from Pro Tools to Reaper and we are so glad about it. This forum has been a great help. However, there are things that we need to figure out yet. Probably because we need to think differently.


Is there a way to switch monitoring in a track from what’s in its input to what’s actually placed in the track? For instance, let’s say we have these tracks for our mix:

1 Music + FX
2 Dialogue
3 Reverb aux
4 Rec dialogue (Recording Track 2 + Track 3)
5 Rec mix (Recording Track 1 + Track 4)

And we want to punch in (we are actually recording audio from the rest of the tracks in tracks 4 & 5) because we did change a small part in dialogue track. We can play it and hit record wherever we want and the punch is done, but problem is that while we are playing we hear audio twice. Only when you hit record you hear it just once.
Only way that we could think of is mute items in tracks 4 & 5 before recording. Is that so?

Thanks in advance.
Go to the routing for the tracks you only want to send (not directly hear), untick master send (or parent send if its a child folder track).

Does that work for you?
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Old 01-31-2018, 04:35 AM   #3
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https://www.reaper.fm/videos.php#iLC1HjLXLd0
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Old 02-05-2018, 08:18 AM   #4
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Thanks for your answer!!

That works for us when recording from a microphone or an instrument. But can't make it work whnen recording from another track.
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:02 PM   #5
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You can record directly from other tracks by:

1) using sends to get all the desired source audio to the track
2) arm the track
3) r-click on the meter and select 'Record Output'.
Note that, unlike most recording modes, the track fader and pan on the armed track will directly affect the recorded audio. So, mostly, leave it at zero...

You can kill the 'double audio' by either muting the armed track while recording or by turning off monitoring on that track.

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Old 02-05-2018, 08:17 AM   #6
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Go to the routing for the tracks you only want to send (not directly hear), untick master send (or parent send if its a child folder track).

Does that work for you?
Thanks for your answer!

Well, that works for recording, yep. But if after that I want to listen what's recorded and I tick master send again, I got two signals again. Does that make sense?
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Thanks for your answer!

Well, that works for recording, yep. But if after that I want to listen what's recorded and I tick master send again, I got two signals again. Does that make sense?
Are you muting the old source tracks after recording? Because recording from another track onto an new track will (assuming the gains are flat) increase the output level by 6 dB or so when you play it back, since there are 2 identical signals now feeding the master.
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Ok, a picture is worth a thousand words. Can we keep this structure and avoid "double audio"?

Our current solution is a custom action that mutes the item before recording, but we would like to hear what's recorded instead of the input until we hit record. Is that doable?

Thanks a lot for your replies.
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Ok, a picture is worth a thousand words. Can we keep this structure and avoid "double audio"?

Our current solution is a custom action that mutes the item before recording, but we would like to hear what's recorded instead of the input until we hit record. Is that doable?

Thanks a lot for your replies.
One way to do that is to uncheck the parent send from the source tracks and turn on parent send on the destination track. So the route, while recording, for source tracks to get to the master track is:

Source tracks --(sends)-> record track --(parent send to master)--> master track.

That way you only hear what's being recorded.
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