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I am not sure about that, XFCE is supposed to be light and can change color like a champ, not sure about the graphics, if you insist on XFCE, hmm.
I do not dare to answer that. I have not checked the Linux Mint 19 Xfce though, maby maby, Cinnamon is their thing. 2 1/2 minutes later: Will take a look myself, curousity hit me. Edit: Mint-Y-Dark appearance and Mint-Y icons brings you close on XFCE, all ive got..
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Long time , glad seeing Reaper on Linux as native and I am back in the forums
@gpunk_w my advice is using the distro you like ,then if have some problems in audio performance start googling around . AVLinux simply has all tweaks for audio which saves you some digging. But , you must spend some time ,since it’s a different OS and for sure don’t be afraid to open Qjackctl
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I noticed this caveat on page 13 of the AVLinux manual. Well worth considertion.
Generally speaking, installation of AV Linux 2018 will currently be best suited to computers with hard drives formatted to the MSDOS partition table and BIOSes that pre-date UEFI OR have options in the BIOS to disable or circumvent Secure Boot. |
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Apparently it has some problem with EFI boot on 32b.
IME, most distros are suitable for audio, what normally needs to be done is to possibly install a lowlatency kernel, set rtprio/memlock in limits.conf, and set the priority of the soundcard interrupt thread with rtprio. After that it's probably mostly a question of what you prefer and what packages are available in the repos. But of course it seems that some have more problems than others, especially with pulseaudio/jack integration and other things. So always a YMMW depending on your likes and the quality of the distro.
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A modern based UEFI machine is 64bit and can run AVLinux Don’t know about 32bit , it’s ages since I used 32 bit distro
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LOL. Sorry.
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What currently doesn’t work is installing on a M.2 ssd. On normal sata ssd it’s ok
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Doesn't it strike anybody else that this is still the downfall of Linux as a seriously considerable system for most everyday music makers.
Just read this thread, there is twelve billion distros of Linux and even the one that is supposedly boot and go is a mess for new users (AVLinux) I understand that is the problem with being open and free, but seriously ?
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Uh ?
Read the thread, AVlinux starts Jack as soon as it boots and Jacks latency cant be adjusted, that is a pretty big issue for an everyday non Linux user, that is why mess, high latency is a bit 1990s, so being able to adjust is needed. My point is, a small Linux distro that is easy to install, supports Reaper and plugins via Wine is needed, but that is unlikely to happen because unless Justin does it, pretty much nobody capable has the interest to do it. The rest are all a bloated mess of "Lets add this, this is cool, add that too" etc etc. I would do it if i had the time to invest, reality is that i am old ill and just want to make music.
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Other distros also have the real-time kernel. Other distros also cut down on bloat. Other distros are also pretty straightforward to install and get running. YMMV, but Ubuntu Studio was no more difficult to set up than Windows here, aside from things like my mouse that don't have Linux support and need a bit of hacking. The installer lets you choose which bundles (video, audio, photo, web design, etc) to include, and the software manager lets you remove whatever you don't want (other DAWs, say) with ease. Reaper installed fine, worked with PulseAudio out of the box, and worked directly with ALSA for the few minutes I fiddled with it.
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Good question. LOL.
I don't think there's any particular insistence on AVLinux. It's just that someone on these forums suggested it as a good option for audio work and I took that person's advice. Your observation about it being a one-man show is a good point. I will look at UBuntu Studio which, I believe, was also recommended by the same person I mentioned earlier. |
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Have you read the thread, i asked what to use and was told to use AVLinux, im not insistent on anything lol
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Perhaps "insistence" was the wrong word choice, but the rest of my comment stands. IMO AVLinux seems like a questionable recommendation unless the user really wants that "might be faster, but will be trickier to make everything work" tradeoff.
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I am afraid there is no distro that can 100% guarantee it will work out-of-the-box.
If something is not working as expected, I always google and post the exact issue on forums to find an answer to the specific problem The same not working concept could apply to Windows . At first I couldn’t get any sound from my audio interface because the onboard was selected . Then I had huge latencies cause I didn’t know anything about Asio . Much better with Asio but I also learned about smaller buffers , then tweaking a bit the system and everything worked fine . But not without spending time
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This is about Linux, not Wndows, Windows is invariably "Change a setting" Li ux is invariably "Terminal" big big difference.
Anyway i think at this point i need to take Jack Winter at his word in anothet thread and stick to Windows, even though i dont actually want to anymore, it is still the better option.
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Manjaro Cinnamon just got cuter with latest..
Anyway, if you try that one, and go to its add/remove software thingie and there, on top, preferences activate AUR, not default, then you can even find REAPER, Cadence and what have we. And you are kinda more the boss of what you have installed and stuff. And nope, I am not going to mess with one gpunk today! Hope you get sorted, I for one will always have Linux installed, why not?
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Requirements: + libc6, libstdc++ for gcc 4.x or later + libgdk-3 (you can also target headless or libgdk-2 if you build your own libSwell from WDL Huh? Target headless? Libswell? I'm not against making an effort to learn new things but, in this case, I don't mind admitting that I'm in way over my head. I think I'll wait for "Reaper In Linux For Dummies". |
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You likely have all of the requirements pre-installed from your OS.
(Headless means without a user interface. libSwell is essentially the open-source part of REAPER.)
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Yep, i'm glad to be just a simple penguin now, because I was totally lost penguin when I started, not in a hurry either and, I am curious to check out distros and what have we.
I have the WINE thing and Wineasio to mess with now, I could actually get Live 10 to be installed even and run with PlayOnLinux, but yet to figure out the asio part, I shall find out. REAPER is nema problemo, should be nema problemo.
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Still a lot of rough edges though - GIMP, for instance, is clunky and has trouble with a decent number of basic Photoshop tasks, and I have yet to find a file manager that was as good as plain ol' Explorer.
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I think it would be neat to have a file manager with the terminal built-in so it just slides down from the top of the window, Quake-style. (I know those exist, I mean in the same window).
Re: layer effects - Text effects are the big one - glows, shadows, etc. In 2.8 you can convert the text to a path and then... uh.. make a layer from it... and then use the Script-Fu layer effects on that? It lets you try to use the Script-Fu ones directly but then throws an error and makes a new layer with crap on it anyway.
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Getting Reaper to run was the easiest thing i have ever done in Linux lol
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