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09-08-2009, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by kindafishy
Nice job guys. If you all keep going, and I hope you do, I hope you make sure all your songs have at least one particularly hooky riff in it like you have in this tune (I'm sure this is an obvious thing to point out, but there ya go anyway). The hooky riff (starting at 20 seconds - sort of dimebaggy I suppose) is what has made me listen to the track several times and become familiar with the less-hooky-but-still-good riffs/progressions/chuggs elsewhere in the song.
Very, very good. I know I will listen to this over and over again. My only critique is that for me, the drums feel like they could push a little harder. They just don't feel as big as the rest of the song. I am not sure what to suggest to that end though. To get bigger sounding drums, I have used parallel compression with quite a bit of success.
Other than that very small critique, I must say that I love the track, it sounds professionally done, Chris_P, you should feel very proud of the mix (and mastering, if any) and I can't wait to hear more.
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Thank you very much man - having 1.) some of the riffs we came up with even being in the same ball park as something that Dimebag would have done, and 2.) getting such positive mix comments are really awesome compliments!
I had the drum sub going to a compressor (para-comping), but found that when I "mastered" the track, that I was really struggling to find the right balance, withough killing everything else in the mix.
Next track will be better! 
Thanks again guys - this feedback is awesome. And, glad you all like the tune!
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09-08-2009, 01:27 PM
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Just great.
Lots of very fresh inventive variation. I like the knowing nods towards some great rock motifs which you pull off without cheapening them or losing any of the freshness or, let's face it, the fuckin 'ardness of the track.
Everything sounds great. I could hear bigger drums but then at the same time I can quite appreciate C's point about where would they go? What possible little snicket of empty space might they then occupy?
Next please!
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09-08-2009, 01:47 PM
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hey, thanks Spike!
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09-08-2009, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by spikemullings
I like the knowing nods towards some great rock motifs...
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Guess who?
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09-09-2009, 06:29 AM
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Spike - Thank you!!
The fucking 'ARDNESS!
YEAH!
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09-09-2009, 04:40 PM
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Weird, no matter how much I turn down the volume, it still sounds loud. Powerful stuff.
Solid riffing and interesting overlayed drone effects. Great collaboration. Your various styles gel together really well.
The distorted vocal sound of this genre is something I can't really come to terms with but, as a 50 something, I'm probably too entrenched in the old style rock view of things. I really like the bit where it goes to "Look at my face...", where the vocals are less distorted.
The phrasing of Shemp's solo reminds me of EVH. Very nice.
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09-09-2009, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by stratman
The phrasing of Shemp's solo reminds me of EVH.
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Me too...
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09-09-2009, 05:37 PM
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Thanks Pete!!
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09-09-2009, 05:39 PM
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Hmm, EVH.... I'll take it
and the trifecta......
Thanks Pete!
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09-09-2009, 05:53 PM
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Simply amazing. Especially for those of us who watched this thing spawn & evolve. Who woulda thunk it would've come to this?
Excellent work dudes. I humbly put forth my bass services if ever you have a need.
.....and Happy B-Day PF1, keep doing what you do
Cheers fellers!
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09-09-2009, 09:25 PM
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Ok, yeah , this rocks. Its not unusual that I kill a track before its done here and on boards in general. I listened to this the whole way through.
Rock on, gentlemen.
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09-11-2009, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by matic
Ok, yeah , this rocks. Its not unusual that I kill a track before its done here and on boards in general. I listened to this the whole way through.
Rock on, gentlemen.
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Thanks for the kind words!
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09-19-2009, 06:49 PM
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bumping for justice
STEAMROLLAAARRR!!
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09-20-2009, 12:54 AM
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This is one hell of a great tune!
Good job guys.
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09-20-2009, 09:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_P_Critter
I was more fixated on getting everything in and keeping the space while retaining the crushing guitars.
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its probably a little late in the game to ask this but, whats a good way to go about keeping the space? the separation is perfect on this track, how the fux did you do it?
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Mark me down as one of those people with tons of pieces to be worked on at a later date.
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09-21-2009, 06:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jinko17
its probably a little late in the game to ask this but, whats a good way to go about keeping the space? the separation is perfect on this track, how the fux did you do it?
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I mixed it one piece at a time to make sure I was carving space for each element.
Careful volume analysis, EQing, and panning. That's it, really. I will tell you though, I did probably about 10+ different mixes of this song to get it right.
Two pointers:
1.) Never underestimate the power of a reference track - I referenced a track off of one of my faves for this mix - MachineHead "The More Things Change" (Ten Ton Hammer - AWESOME Andy Sneap mix). No your not cheating when you do this - it just helps you to keep perspective. 
2.) Never be afraid to use your EQ. Carve, notch, HP / LP, etc. Sometimes the EQ adustments are pretty extreme to get everything sitting just right, but remember - use your ears too. There is no EQ "formula" - it all depends on the source.
Glad you guys enjoyed this song!
PS - This is a true Story - My son turned 3 this weekend, so we had a family party at my place. I was out getting groceries / supplies / etc. before everyone came out, and got caught up in traffic - I was so pissed. Then I realized what was holding everything up. It was a STEAMROLLER paving a new part of the road!
I got a laugh, and then had to blast the song while I rolled through town.
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09-21-2009, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris_P_Critter
I mixed it one piece at a time to make sure I was carving space for each element.
Careful volume analysis, EQing, and panning. That's it, really. I will tell you though, I did probably about 10+ different mixes of this song to get it right.
Two pointers:
1.) Never underestimate the power of a reference track - I referenced a track off of one of my faves for this mix - MachineHead "The More Things Change" (Ten Ton Hammer - AWESOME Andy Sneap mix). No your not cheating when you do this - it just helps you to keep perspective.
2.) Never be afraid to use your EQ. Carve, notch, HP / LP, etc. Sometimes the EQ adustments are pretty extreme to get everything sitting just right, but remember - use your ears too. There is no EQ "formula" - it all depends on the source.
Glad you guys enjoyed this song!
PS - This is a true Story - My son turned 3 this weekend, so we had a family party at my place. I was out getting groceries / supplies / etc. before everyone came out, and got caught up in traffic - I was so pissed. Then I realized what was holding everything up. It was a STEAMROLLER paving a new part of the road!
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The only EQ thing I've ever used was the number 2 and 3 band, and I'd move them very slightly. I still have no idea how to use a compressor. Never mixed each track individually either, I'll give that a shot. Referencing a track too.
10 different mixes? Jesus!
lol @ the steamroller incident! thats just epic
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Mark me down as one of those people with tons of pieces to be worked on at a later date.
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09-21-2009, 09:44 AM
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thats an awesome story Chris. we'll never view construction equipment the same again! i usually do about 25 renders of a GIGAWATT tune before i have a mix thats competent and even then its still not as good as Chris'. we even use the same tools basically. Chris just has an ear for it.
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09-21-2009, 10:53 AM
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Boah! This is quite extreme. Interesting mixture of elements. Mixing this must have been quite a challenge. Cool FX usage, too. Impressive!
Guitars and drums I like.
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09-21-2009, 01:13 PM
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i was wondering if you were ever , Shogger.
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09-21-2009, 01:28 PM
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Shogger
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09-22-2009, 06:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pattonfreak1
thats an awesome story Chris. we'll never view construction equipment the same again! i usually do about 25 renders of a GIGAWATT tune before i have a mix thats competent and even then its still not as good as Chris'. we even use the same tools basically. Chris just has an ear for it.
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HAHA!
You're making me blush.
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09-22-2009, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by shogger
Boah! This is quite extreme. Interesting mixture of elements. Mixing this must have been quite a challenge. Cool FX usage, too. Impressive!
Guitars and drums I like.
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Nice!!! Glad you like it dude!!
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09-22-2009, 10:26 AM
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Badass... now all I want to do is record all day...
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09-22-2009, 10:39 AM
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Enough of this. Give us a new track.
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09-23-2009, 02:16 AM
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I like it!
Very inspiring. I hope there will be more.
The only thing I don't like is fade-out end of the song. I think it should end in... hmmmm... more drastical way. With a big f*****g blast for example, heheh :-D
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09-23-2009, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kindafishy
Enough of this. Give us a new track.
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Well, apparently Chris' pc has bit the dust but he's working on getting it fixed. I have an upper respiratory infection and cant hold a tune or hear myself in headphones but here is a VERY ROUGH draft of our next one, Death of a Scapegoat:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/640206/...%20preview.mp3
And thanks everyone for being excited as we are about this project!
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09-23-2009, 07:06 AM
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Scapegoat = shaping up nicely! Lots of room for big fat drums and evil vocal harmonies in there.
No matter how wicked the music is, it is all for not if the vocals aren't there, but you guys obviously get that. That is obvious from SteamRoller and this new track.
When can I preorder the album?
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09-23-2009, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by kindafishy
When can I preorder the album?
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LOL!
Wait... we're doing an album?
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09-23-2009, 09:10 AM
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PC troubles... I haven't even had a chance to hear the vocals yet. 
Album? Why not.
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09-24-2009, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pattonfreak1
LOL!
Wait... we're doing an album?
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an album? only one?!
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09-25-2009, 08:56 AM
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I updated the link in the first post, to point to our Reverb Nation page!
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09-25-2009, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kindafishy
Enough of this. Give us a new track.
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Yeah, come on, are you girls gonna put up the next track finished or what?
Sorry, don't mind me, I've taken a little drink tonight
Wait. What is it that the " badgers all know"?
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09-25-2009, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spikemullings
Yeah, come on, are you girls gonna put up the next track finished or what?
Sorry, don't mind me, I've taken a little drink tonight
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we had some technical and personal issues... hang in there!
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09-25-2009, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spikemullings
What is it that the "badgers all know"?
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That, "His time came all too soon".
Duh
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09-25-2009, 12:36 PM
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"All too soon" of course, goddammit I feel stoopid now !
My daftness aside, I am very keen to hear the next track and who knows what after that.
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12-20-2009, 08:57 PM
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Any download link for this one? I have the other two on the ol' iPod...
Needs a complete set... If you require compensation... I'm broke! Kiddin' ... these are worth paying for... setup an account somewhere.
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09-28-2010, 09:56 AM
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STEAMROLLER in your face!
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09-28-2010, 11:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kindafishy
STEAMROLLER in your face!
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patience homey... We're gunnin' to release 3 songs before the holidays hit.
@ Diogenes: sorry for the late reply but you can dl our songs at our reverbnation page.
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09-29-2010, 08:52 AM
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How the HELL did I miss this?????
Don't even know what to say....
Well, she's definitely hotter now.
I looooooooooove evil looking chicks with no retina or pupil. Seriously... it's hot.
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