Old 08-10-2017, 03:39 PM   #1
buzzardwhiskey
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 39
Default Layering percussion

My band and I are recording our second CD ourselves using lots of "layers" rather than how we did it on our first CD (in a studio where everyone had one or more mics and we all played at once into a system with at least a dozen A-to-D converters).

I've created a temporary drum track using EZ Drummer 2. Then I've recorded my acoustic guitar(s). Then we recorded a bass, mandolin, resonator guitar and so on.

So far so good. We're actually very excited about the quality. Soon we will record vocals as well, and lastly I'm hoping to replace the "fake" drums with real percussive elements. And I have questions...

My interface is an Audient iD14 with two mic pre's.

1) Is it possible to "disassemble" a groovy drum beat into its components and record them as layers like we're doing with the rest of the project? Or will a good finished product we too difficult to achieve?
2) What should I start with first? Second? Etc...
3) Do you have any tips or gotchas?

Thank you for your time.
buzzardwhiskey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2017, 11:24 PM   #2
MrBongo
Human being with feelings
 
MrBongo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: germany
Posts: 196
Default

hell no.

Don´t even try. Unless you want it to sound like an undefined mess
MrBongo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2017, 06:01 AM   #3
buzzardwhiskey
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 39
Default

Hmm...

Here's my methodology... we'll swap out the midi, one "type of drum" at a time.

So I'm thinking, turn off the midi kick and record some kind of real kick (maybe using two mics). The drummer needn't follow the midi pattern but could if she wants.

Then turn off the midi snare and record a real snare. And so on.

At each point, the drummer is free to do their own thing. When all is said and done we'll have real drums!

Because we do folk music, and the drums are often quite spare rather than the huge element of a rock band, I still have hope. But you might be right, MrBongo.
buzzardwhiskey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2017, 06:15 AM   #4
kstn
Human being with feelings
 
kstn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 89
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by buzzardwhiskey View Post
Hmm...

Here's my methodology... we'll swap out the midi, one "type of drum" at a time.

So I'm thinking, turn off the midi kick and record some kind of real kick (maybe using two mics). The drummer needn't follow the midi pattern but could if she wants.

Then turn off the midi snare and record a real snare. And so on.

At each point, the drummer is free to do their own thing. When all is said and done we'll have real drums!

Because we do folk music, and the drums are often quite spare rather than the huge element of a rock band, I still have hope. But you might be right, MrBongo.
AFAIR drums at Joy Divison albums was recorded similar way. So you can try and look at the result - may be it will be suitable for you.
kstn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2017, 09:02 AM   #5
Fergler
Human being with feelings
 
Fergler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 5,207
Default

How can I spend 20 hours doing something that 150-200 dollars in a pro studio could accomplish in 1?

Why not just book the studio time
Fergler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2017, 10:12 AM   #6
buzzardwhiskey
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 39
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergler View Post
How can I spend 20 hours doing something that 150-200 dollars in a pro studio could accomplish in 1?

Why not just book the studio time
Your point is well taken... seriously.

There are two answers.

1) Doing it myself, no matter the time investment is a reward in and of itself.
2) I figure that each song in the studio will require about 45 minutes to an hour. At $65 to $125 per hour (figure $80) that's about $800 for the album. It's a small stretch but I can do it, and I may end up doing it.
buzzardwhiskey is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.