Old 10-28-2017, 05:40 PM   #1
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v5.65pre5 - October 28 2017
+ ReaSurround: fix automation behaviors for LFE and speaker output levels [t=197727]
+ Regions: support dual edge editing
+ Solo: another 5.6x behavior fix [p=1903931]
+ Startup: remember size of project selection window
# Automation items: duplicate automation items on send envelopes when duplicating tracks [t=197766]
# FX: fix custom category/developer assignments not being read on startup [p=1903659]
# Media explorer: fix context menu item [t=197784]

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Old 10-28-2017, 06:34 PM   #2
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Old 10-28-2017, 07:13 PM   #3
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+ Regions: support dual edge editing

Indeed, thanks devs! Will test in the morning!
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Old 10-28-2017, 08:27 PM   #4
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Since regions is getting some work done to it, can this please get fixed. Copying/moving a region to the start shifts the other regions to the right leaving an empty space between instead of just just keeping their positions intact...
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Doc shay,

A modifier option not to do this would be good to have.

We still need to keep this behaviour as standard though I think as people use it to rearrange audio quickly in a "ripple" manner.
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"Since regions is getting some work done to it, can this please get fixed. Copying/moving a region to the start shifts the other regions to the right leaving an empty space between instead of just just keeping their positions intact..."

I experience the same bug;.

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Old 10-29-2017, 03:34 AM   #7
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Since regions is getting some work done to it, can this please get fixed. Copying/moving a region to the start shifts the other regions to the right leaving an empty space between instead of just just keeping their positions intact...
This "region: drag to start" bug seems to have been introduced since the latest full release (5.62) where it works fine...

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Old 10-29-2017, 04:44 AM   #8
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Copying/moving a region to the start shifts the other regions to the right leaving an empty space between instead of just just keeping their positions intact...
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I experience the same bug
Not a bug, this is how regions work and it hasn't changed. In your project, before the edit, there is existing space before the first region. Any content in that space would be deleted if the space went away.

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This "region: drag to start" bug seems to have been introduced since the latest full release (5.62) where it works fine.
Not a bug. Your screencap shows two different projects. One has existing space before the first region before the edit, and the other does not.


I believe the only region editing behavior that has changed is that you can now move a region to in between two other adjacent (touching) regions, which you couldn't do before.

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Schwa. Related to this though..

It would be great if a mouse modifier could be used to temporarily disable the ripple editing we permanent have on regions.

So that for example. Moving a region "could" leave a hole rather than always shifting later content to the left etc.

Both are super useful.
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Old 10-29-2017, 05:24 AM   #10
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Not a bug. Your screencap shows two different projects. One has existing space before the first region before the edit, and the other does not.
When we see the long gif (3 sequences), it seems that uncleswede can't move regions in the right way (audio&midi sequence).
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It would be great if a mouse modifier could be used to temporarily disable the ripple editing we permanent have on regions.

So that for example. Moving a region "could" leave a hole rather than always shifting later content to the left etc.

Both are super useful.
Yes. It could be a good idea to add some new mouse modifiers and actions (paste region, copy region, move edit cursor to the start of the next region, move edit cursor to the end of the next region, etc. ) releated to regions.

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I got horrible TCP/Arrange area flicker when resizing height of region lane, after about 4 hours of trying to figure out what could be the cause I have at least narrowed it down to something in the Reaper.Ini file in the [REAPER] section. The one that doesn't flicker started out from clean 565_pre5 portable install, the one that causes flicker is from installed 5.61 (and many previous updates).

I must have set something in 561(and previous vers) that 565 does not like?

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Old 10-29-2017, 12:49 PM   #13
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Same glitchs on my PC.
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Old 10-29-2017, 06:13 PM   #14
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Figured out what causes the flicker,
Preferences > Appearance > UI Updates > Lazy settings

EDIT: Set to the default setting 'Lazy when recording' since I normally don't touch Reaper when recording anyway, problem solved for now.

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Old 10-30-2017, 03:32 AM   #15
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Can I somehow remove these new entries on the right-click add fx dropdown?

I have all my fx sorted already and don't really need these new entries.


Also, i managed to delete my reaper-fxfolders.ini file - I am not noticing and problems or change in Reaper. What have I done?



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It's cool to see how Version 6 is slowly taking form
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Can I somehow remove these new entries on the right-click add fx dropdown?
The quick-add FX menu follows the preferences in the Add FX dialog, under Options/Show in left pane list.
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Old 10-30-2017, 08:47 AM   #18
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+ Regions: support dual edge editing

Could someone explain this one to me?

Edit: Scratch that. I'm an idiot. I was running the wrong portable install and on Pre1. No wonders I couldn't figure it out.

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Old 10-30-2017, 08:56 AM   #19
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Regarding the new category/developer categories, Cubase has a great feature where you can show what plugins are not currently categorized in any fashion.

This would be extremely useful for categorizing things to make sure things don't get missed.

A filter option for something like 'not Categories' 'not Developers' or similar would be enough.
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Regarding dual edge editing regions... Currently we cannot change this in any way regarding "without snapping" modifier, which is by default Ctrl. This breaks my workflow because I have all mouse modifiers set so that Shift is without snapping. Would be nice if we could somehow be able to change this to our liking.
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Default Duplicated entries for "Custom: lyrics.lua"

Minor Issue:
Duplicated entries for "Custom: lyrics.lua" in 'reaper-kb.ini'.

Clean portable install, Open actions, make a custom action, close actions, At this time the 'reaper-kb.ini' file is created, and includes two additional lines,

vSCR 4 0 RS1ee9bb229dabffe151848d7efa3c10f748e1a1cf "Custom: lyrics.lua" Cockos/lyrics.lua
SCR 4 32060 RS7d3c_1ee9bb229dabffe151848d7efa3c10f748e1a1cf "Custom: lyrics.lua" Cockos/lyrics.lua


Exit Reaper and restart it,
Open actions, make a custom action (or delete one, etc),
Look at 'reaper-kb.ini', it now has duplicated entries for lyrics.lua...


SCR 4 0 RS1ee9bb229dabffe151848d7efa3c10f748e1a1cf "Custom: lyrics.lua" Cockos/lyrics.lua
SCR 4 32060 RS7d3c_1ee9bb229dabffe151848d7efa3c10f748e1a1cf "Custom: lyrics.lua" Cockos/lyrics.lua

ACT 1 0 "ebd3e25b27374546ac1aafc89c907c33" "Custom: FAKE CUSTOM 1" 40037 40038
SCR 4 0 RS1ee9bb229dabffe151848d7efa3c10f748e1a1cf "Custom: lyrics.lua" Cockos/lyrics.lua
SCR 4 32060 RS7d3c_1ee9bb229dabffe151848d7efa3c10f748e1a1cf "Custom: lyrics.lua" Cockos/lyrics.lua

ACT 1 0 "381ba825b5240a4588c8df5215077324" "Custom: FAKE CUSTOM 2" 40403 40401


565-x64 / Win7_x64

EDIT: I guess this is nothing new, my install version of Reaper also has duplicate entries for 'lyrics.lua' in the ini also.
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Now that Region-, Marker- and Tempo-Lane height can be sized dynamically, could there be API functions to get the height of these ?
So it wold be relatively easy to fix this I guess.

Also API functions to set the height of these may be useful too.

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How the behavior of "Reorder marker number" and "Reorder region number" change with multiple lanes?
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