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04-29-2017, 07:12 AM
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Best way to organize tracks for CPU/Ram (Kontakt)
So I'm planning to build a new computer soon, but first I'm trying to find the exact potential and limits of mine.
I'd like to build a large orchestra template (Konakt sample instruments. Strings, Brass, Woods, guitars/bass, solo instruments, synths).
There are 2 ways of doing this,
1 - Have many Kontakt instruments in a single Konakt instance. This would mean all midi track route into a single Kontakt Track, which would have to have separate outputs (maybe back to the original midi tracks) for EQing etc. the sounds.
Benefit
-Less ram. I save about 1gb of ram by doing this.
Drawbacks
-all work is being done by a single track, therefor CPU workload would not spread evenly across cores (right?)
-Messy/difficult to organize. Lots of routing.
The other option is having a kontakt instance for each instrument.
Benefit
-Even CPU load?
-Easier. More organized. Easy to add tracks as needed.
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04-29-2017, 08:43 AM
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certainly a personal choice...
personally I ususally prefer multi instances of kontakt for my own organalzational reasons.... just easier to see who is doing what
...like what midi tracks are being sent to which kontakt with which lib's in it
the all in one way can get really messy especially when you dealing with lots of midi chan's and keyswitches....
Johnathan of OTR has built a huge template for doing all this and though it costs a bit, the work done is certainly worth the price IMO.
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04-29-2017, 09:17 AM
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[QUOTE=hopi;1838465]certainly a personal choice...
personally I ususally prefer multi instances of kontakt for my own organalzational reasons.... just easier to see who is doing what
...like what midi tracks are being sent to which kontakt with which lib's in it
the all in one way can get really messy especially when you dealing with lots of midi chan's and keyswitches....
Johnathan of OTR has built a huge template for doing all this and though it costs a bit, the work
I've seen that, but in the end, I'm much to picky, and wouldn't like the way he's done things (no matter how he's done it).
Though it would be nice to try his templates, if he has both options, and see which gives better performance.
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04-29-2017, 09:22 AM
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I've seen that, but in the end, I'm much to picky, and wouldn't like the way he's done things (no matter how he's done it).
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hahaha... well said and I can dig it...
so why not just make yourself a couple of diff test templates, and see what you see as to perfomance...?
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04-30-2017, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hopi
hahaha... well said and I can dig it...
so why not just make yourself a couple of diff test templates, and see what you see as to perfomance...?
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Yes, well I've done that on a smaller scale. As I said, I save about 1gb of RAM, but I will do more extensive tests now.
I'm thinking about getting this motherboard,
http://asrockrack.com/general/produc...=EPC612D4I#CPU
But I wonder if any of the Xeon E5s can perform as well (or close) as the 7700k for audio? This board is good, as it's tiny but has 4 ram slots.
edit ^^ oops that last comment was meant for the CPU thread. Anyhow, I'll ask there too :P
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04-30-2017, 07:52 AM
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indeed tiny!
just wondering why you are looking at those cpu's instead of i7's? Not saying you are wrong, just asking cuz I don't know...
If saving ram use is the issue... is it not possible to just get more ram in your PC?
I kinda go the other direction with hardware... full towers and monster cases, etc., loads of ram [but I need it for big graphic work] and the most powerful i7 I can afford... [which is way less than the bleeding edge mind you]
also... liquid cooling from corsair... for the cpu... that has become my 'only way to go'...
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04-30-2017, 08:00 AM
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If you've got more than 16GB RAM, I recommend a Kontakt instance per track approach combined with disabling unused tracks. I used to take the multi approach, but switching to an instance per track has brought many benefits: net reduction of memory usage (because now I simply disable what I'm not using in my template), faster project loading time, much simpler routing and, consequently, automation.
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04-30-2017, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hopi
indeed tiny!
just wondering why you are looking at those cpu's instead of i7's? Not saying you are wrong, just asking cuz I don't know...
If saving ram use is the issue... is it not possible to just get more ram in your PC?
I kinda go the other direction with hardware... full towers and monster cases, etc., loads of ram [but I need it for big graphic work] and the most powerful i7 I can afford... [which is way less than the bleeding edge mind you]
also... liquid cooling from corsair... for the cpu... that has become my 'only way to go'...
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Its not that I *want* this cpu, it's that I want the tiniest computer possible, but need tons of ram and a powerful CPU. So if this CPU is capable, it's ideal. Sadly, there's no motherboard like this supporting 7700k and 64gb RAM.
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