anyone up for this collab ??

manning1 · 04-15-2009, 03:38 PM

anyone up for a laugh//fun ??
ive always wanted to have a go at doing jumpin jack flash.
a very infectious song imho.
call it a moment of madness...lol..but could be fun.
i'm testing out my vocs now.

anybody willing to do pounding live drums , really precise like charlie watts.??
or pounding rhythm geetar ?? or bass ??
really pounding along ??
(man charlie is good.so solid. )
mebe back up vocs..any ladies around ??
i'm talkin a full throated BALLS TO THE WALL version.
key will be the guitar sounds sounding great of course.
(my recording pardner is tied up right now..very nice bloke...
but he is very busy.)

if anyones up for it for fun, tell me,
if anyone could do the guide backing trak, ..n send it to me ...
bass, drums, rhythm guitar n i'll add me vocals.
then we could flesh it out from there.

when i saw the song done on the shining light tour it seemed like keith used a capo on the electric.. key of B ??
chords like B, D, E, etc used ??

could be a gas doing this song.

heres a ultra rough version i did for giggles today in 2 hrs.

https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/488836/flashv1.mp3

just guide skeleton traks really ...
the whole thing needs to be re-done PROPERLY OF COURSE.
with lotsa people collabing as i said at begin of post.
with lots of people contributing their talents.
i cant do it alone.
was just me mucking about having lotsa fun.

anyone interested contact moi.
god bless.

manning1 · 04-16-2009, 10:34 AM

in case anyone wants it...
heres a bare minimum version guide i did for ted,
just drum , rhythm guitar down low n vocs guide.
includeing a drum lead in.
so people can add whatever they want.
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/489465/flashmin.mp3

hardplay · 04-16-2009, 11:50 AM

Call me in, i've got my drums in recording mode so it won't take me much to lay down a session, send me the details for a download, click would be fine too.

shemp · 04-16-2009, 12:42 PM

sounds fun but I'm swamped... by the time I get some time you will probably be done

... but until then..... can't wait to hear what becomes of it!

manning1 · 04-16-2009, 01:28 PM

hardplay.
thats fantastic mate.
we have a drummer. HOORAY!!.
the downloads for you are in my first two posts.
first one is a ruff overall arrangement...
n second bare minimum.
so prolly the second one is more appropo ??
for you to lay drums down ??
cos it includes the count off before the guitar starts.
or is there anything else you need ??
if so mate just tell me.
ted pm'd me to say he can do some guitar work.

shemp.
cheers. shame your busy.

dont wanna rush it anyway.
so you might have some time mebe.
mebe youll hear final result n go how bout this idea , sorta thing.

now we need a frickin bass player n some back up chiks..lol.
i'm not averse either to some keyboard piano or synth.
whatever makes it go better.
ya know what might be neat is in my talky bit in the middle mebe a soft tinkly piano in the background ??
all good fun.
thanks for responding.

Tedwood · 04-16-2009, 02:09 PM

Here's a quick mix with my guitar on it, there are actually three guitars on it (can't resist that sort of thing), now I need to know what I should do with them. anyhoo have a listen.

Then I guess we need a bass, and maybe some maracas and tambourine and all that.

https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/145565/...jack-flash.mp3

manning1 · 04-16-2009, 05:27 PM

Tedwood.
you freaked me out.
some wonderfull ideas.
your a heck of a talent mate.
first time ive heard you play.
i pm'd you with some detailed comments n ideas//suggestions.
man am i glad your in on this.
god bless n respect.

nightscope · 04-16-2009, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manning1

chiks..

Yeah, lots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz6R2...om=PL&index=35

ns

shemp · 04-16-2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedwood

Here's a quick mix with my guitar on it, there are actually three guitars on it (can't resist that sort of thing), now I need to know what I should do with them. anyhoo have a listen.

Then I guess we need a bass, and maybe some maracas and tambourine and all that.

https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/145565/...jack-flash.mp3

killer Tedwood!

manning1 · 04-16-2009, 07:35 PM

shemp.
yeh i crank it..
the beginning of song now just blows me away.
straight in...bam..lol. gonna be good.

now i realise with the backing now i gotta get those jjflash vocal repeats
starting at 2m45secs more accurate n spot on.
will redo em to be more precise. once backings/arrangements finalised. n try other vocal aspects.
twould be nice to have chik back up singers on those ending voc repeats.
i hear high vocs on em at that point.

need an honest opinion on sumpin arrangement wise shemp.
in the talky part in middle of song..
ie...the section..1m58 secs to 2m21secs..
my original idea was at this point the whole shebang
(for reasons of song dynamics) comes down from balls to the wall..
down soft with just likkle twinkles behind the talky.
then after 2m21secs back up to balls to the wall.
i thought it might make it different.
thoughts/opinions ?? am i wrong ??

nightscope
i listened to the video you linked to.
its a faster tempo.
do you feel the tempo should be faster on this effort ??
i tried a faster tempo originally mate,
but the problem is it constricts the guitar aspects
i found. so chose not as fast a tempo to hopefully let all
the guitar licks like teds come through.
any opinions welcome mate.
OR..was it you just wanted lotsa chiks ?? ..lol.

ps..beddy byes time here.
will talk to you fine chaps tomorrow.

hardplay · 04-16-2009, 10:02 PM

Ok i've just downloaded Tedwood's version, later this afternoon i've got a recording session i will try and fit it in.

later .....

Tedwood · 04-17-2009, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manning1

now i realise with the backing now i gotta get those jjflash vocal repeats
starting at 2m45secs more accurate n spot on.
will redo em to be more precise. once backings/arrangements finalised. n try other vocal aspects.

No need to redo them Manning, just split and move em - that's what Daws are good at - among other things.

stupeT · 04-17-2009, 01:31 AM

he he - you got a way cool version

Couple of years ago I also covered that tune. I made a more acoustic version... in Cubase still, though...

Tedwood · 04-17-2009, 03:27 AM

Since nobody offered to do bass I had a go, but I think it's not great, so any bass player think they can do better lets' see what you got

http://shup.com/Shup/145805/JJFlash2.mp3

Manning also ordered me to change the guitars a bit

- actually I hadn't quite finished so here is the latest updated version - hope you like it Manning.

Anyway where's the cowbell?

stupeT · 04-17-2009, 03:55 AM

ZZ Top plays the Stones

manning1 · 04-17-2009, 04:45 AM

all.
oh my goodness..thats it...
a zztop version. lol. what a hoot.
this is FUN FUN !!

years ago i used to make me mates giggle with a "keef" impression.
i'm sorta thinking bout a likkle talky right at end of song..
sorta keef saying..
"keef here, anyone got a blinkin ciggy"..lol.

ted.
re the jjflash repeats.
yeh mate i move stuff all the time in reap.
but i wanna try n see if i can improve em too.
i effed up on em.
me likey what you did.

loved that lead is now more upfront.
your a heck of a guitar player.
particularly liked 3m2secs to end leads mate.

why dont we wait till drums are down ??
step back n see how it all sounds then ??

you guys have lifted my spirits HUGE.
love to you all.
(my wifes goin back into surgery..so worried of course.)

kindafishy · 04-17-2009, 06:53 AM

Pretty cool to hear this evolving.

Tedwood, nice guitar tone and great lead work.

Great job so far over all.

nightscope · 04-17-2009, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manning1

any opinions welcome mate.

Not really. You appear to have all in hand. Things seem to be emerging out of the swamp. I agree slower is probably preferable in this case.

I hope your wife's OK. All the best with that.

ns

manning1 · 04-17-2009, 03:38 PM

ted.
i pm'd you in response to your latest pm.
get back to me.
amazeing.

nightscope.
cheers mate.

manning1 · 04-17-2009, 04:21 PM

all.
an UPDATE.
ted did a new backing version which blows me away.
so ive just sent him my vocs on their own for integration
into his mix for posting here.
great work ted mate.

ps...
i wonder if there are any uber AE's who wanna work their mojo
doing the final mix when everythings finished ??
or..do you wanna do it ted ?? opinions ??
gonna get a pizza now with a huge smile on me face.
god bless all.

manning1 · 04-17-2009, 08:41 PM

ok..couldnt resist..lol.
heres a ruff mix. done v quik of jjflash.
with teds new backing.
with me ruff vocs.
i'm sure an ace mixer could do way better.

ted..notice wot i did mate with the voc repeats at end.
mebe wot i did with the repeats suks ??..tell me yer opinion.
feel free to post yer own mix mate.
great work ted.
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/490819/flashruffmix.mp3

Tedwood · 04-18-2009, 04:31 AM

Here yer go Manning - one mix with your vocals on and a new bass line.

Automation on the guitars

Very basic drum track (courtesy of AD) for guide purposes

Also an FX chain on the master

http://shup.com/Shup/146162/JJFlashVox1.mp3

manning1 · 04-18-2009, 08:53 AM

ted.
what can i say your mix sounds nice here mate.
well done. respect.
i pm'd you.
if you got any critique of me ruff vocs tell me mate.
ok lets see wot hardplay does now.
this is fun.
we should do more of this.

god bless.

hardplay · 04-18-2009, 01:01 PM

While i'm writing i'm upping all 8 drum tracks, i've finished recording just one hour ago,i was on my own and had to go back and forth for volumes etc.

btw kit is tuned for reggae,that's what we are recording now,so i added a mic to the bottom of the snare (actually used tom 3 mic).

as soon as it's ready (RAR 166mb)i will give you the link for the download.

EDIT - upload is slow

hardplay · 04-18-2009, 02:24 PM

manning i've sent you the link, Tedwood do you want it too ?

Tedwood · 04-18-2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardplay

While i'm writing i'm upping all 8 drum tracks, i've finished recording just one hour ago,i was on my own and had to go back and forth for volumes etc.

btw kit is tuned for reggae,that's what we are recording now,so i added a mic to the bottom of the snare (actually used tom 3 mic).

as soon as it's ready (RAR 166mb)i will give you the link for the download.

EDIT - upload is slow

Oh I thought you would do a drum mix to a stereo track, now I realise you can't mix them as you don't have a separate guide without drums - so I guess you can't mix them. Do you want a mix without drums so you could do that or anything else?

Complicated aint it?

Could you send me your link anyway please.

hardplay · 04-18-2009, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedwood

Oh I thought you would do a drum mix to a stereo track, now I realise you can't mix them as you don't have a separate guide without drums - so I guess you can't mix them. Do you want a mix without drums so you could do that or anything else?

Complicated aint it?

Could you send me your link anyway please.

Yeah it would have been better if i had had the track with a seperate click or drum, that way i could have sent you just a stereo file.

Well at least you can mess about with the seperate tracks of the kit !

manning1 · 04-18-2009, 03:55 PM

ted/hardplay.
i got a prob..i'm on a budget dsl speed.
(retired bloke..lol.)
would take me ages to dload 166mb.
also here sometimes one gets interruptions with dloads possibly.
plus my isp would go bonkers.
i dont have the dload speed either.

but heres the link hardplay sent me ted.

http://www.decarider.com/shashemene/...jack_flash.rar

hardplay ..is there any way you could send a stereo mix ??
that way either ted or i can just line it up with the trak
via shifting/aligning in reaper.
or mebe teds suggestion ?? he send you a mix minus the drums ??

prolly my fault i should have included a clik trak.
what you might do hardplay is in one file i uploaded, the base one..
drum clik starts before the song, or use teds n just paste it to front
of your stereo drums for lead in ?? so we can align ??
i'm sure actually i can align it anyways.
just tell me the time the first drum beat hits on.
ie..place reape cursor at first of your beats sorta idea.

hardplay · 04-18-2009, 05:38 PM

Ok,i've mixed the tracks to stereo and added some gates,comps and reverb etc.,but beware i did it with headphones at home,it's late and i can't use monitors so i don't know if it sounds crap or good,just let me know.

I have left the lead-in for you to sync,just trim it away after.

manning1 · 04-19-2009, 05:00 AM

hardplay
mate could you post an mp3 mix showing your drums integrated
with rest of the traks /song ??
so i can hear what your hearing mate.
cheers.

Tedwood · 04-19-2009, 06:09 AM

Here we are then, announcing the Reaper forum's newest super-group!

Manning, Hardplay and Tedwood - doesn't quite roll off the tongue but never mind

Please do offer feedback

http://shup.com/Shup/146588/JJFlashDrums1.mp3

bullshark · 04-19-2009, 06:57 AM

Good show guys.

manning1 · 04-19-2009, 08:11 AM

hardplay.
nice tight trak mate. kudos.
i love the fact you got that tick tick tick on the HH,
going just like charlie mate.
ie...it keeps the motion of the song going.
n the energy.

oh i forgot, i love the way you lay back
in the talky quiete section.
some drummers dont know how to do that.
excellent balance mate.

n after 2min51 secs to coda , ie the outtro.
love your work in that section.
oh momma yes on that snare work at the end.
reminds me of a well known drummer.

ted.
what can i say , nice mix mate.
kudos.
i'm groovin.

re group name.
how bout ..lol...
High Tension Mommas (HTM)
such fun. n all done in reaper.

big hugs to you all.

(ps..in a couple of hours i'm goin fer sunday lunch/brunch with some friends,so will be offline for several hours.)

bullshark.
big hugs to you too mate.

hardplay · 04-19-2009, 02:55 PM

COOL, it's got a nice groove, guitars are great and man do i love the vox!!!!

Wow that has been a lot of fun,thank you Manning and Tedwood !

gofer · 04-19-2009, 03:30 PM

Yeah! Great listening, guys.

manning1 · 04-20-2009, 04:33 AM

gofer.
cheers mate.
hardplay.
thnks for the pm. pm'd you back.
i'm waitin to hear from ted , i think he might have been doing some
more stuff to it ?? n mixing ??
been loadsa fun.

mebe we should submit to reaper radio ??

Tedwood · 04-20-2009, 04:47 AM

Yeah I was thinking of doing a bit more to it, tambourine in places, some congas on the talking bit, some automation for some light and shade. I am a bit occupied for a couple of days though, so it might have to wait. Let's see how it goes.

Reaper radio - I don't think covers are allowed though - boo!

gofer · 04-20-2009, 10:50 AM

That is what I edited out in my previous post. I'd looove to hear it on Reaper.fm from time to time, but I am not sure if it's maybe against the rule about copyright ownership.

Anybody here who knows for sure?

manning1 · 04-20-2009, 02:05 PM

Ted..re doing more.
take yer time if needed.
cos just as a note, i'm gonna be with my wife at the hospital next couple of days. she is haveing an important op.
so you might not hear much of me for obvious reasons.
re copywrite. hmm i would like to know that.
people do covers all the time for fun.
it was my understanding that if one did something for fun,
then it was ok. if it were sold of course then of course the
copywrite holders had to be properly compensated.
can anyone shed light on this further ??

hardplay · 04-20-2009, 02:27 PM

BTW,i've been able to listen to the track with attention and imho the bass track is awesome,the playing is appropriate and not intrusive,bravo Ted !