Old 07-17-2017, 06:07 PM   #1
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been awhile i since i posted here. recently been collab'ing with some old band mates from the 80s and having some fun. this is our first effort (of many hopefully). still working out the kinks, so be gentle - but would love some feedback.

real drums!!! wow, what a learning curve!

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Old 07-17-2017, 06:27 PM   #2
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fREAKIN aWESOME sWAMI !!!!!!!!!!!!

still soaking this up, I'll be back soon.................
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I like it! Fantastic guitar solo. What tone. I like the way the solo starts out using elements from the vocal line and builds from there. The descending sequence at the end of the solo was a nice touch.
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Another reunion. Very cool to play with old mates again ain't it? It feels fresh again. The song itself just rocks, and I mean rocks. Love both the singer and drummer. Glad to hear you guys jamming together again.
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I like it! Fantastic guitar solo. What tone. I like the way the solo starts out using elements from the vocal line and builds from there. The descending sequence at the end of the solo was a nice touch.
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Another reunion. Very cool to play with old mates again ain't it? It feels fresh again. The song itself just rocks, and I mean rocks. Love both the singer and drummer. Glad to hear you guys jamming together again.
Thanks Sam! We've been talking about doing something like this for over a year - just never happened. Finally, I just wrote something and sent it to them and said - here you go! Came together quickly after that. Just three of us; me on guitar/vox; drummer and bassist. Working with real people is a lot different than the solo, one-man band stuff. Some upsides, some downsides - but all good. I just wish they lived closer so we could play out live!! I miss that!!
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Love it. Great playing and sound. Really like the guitar solo.
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Thanks Sam! We've been talking about doing something like this for over a year - just never happened. Finally, I just wrote something and sent it to them and said - here you go! Came together quickly after that. Just three of us; me on guitar/vox; drummer and bassist. Working with real people is a lot different than the solo, one-man band stuff. Some upsides, some downsides - but all good. I just wish they lived closer so we could play out live!! I miss that!!
As many times as I've heard your voice, I still never know when it's you singing. But the good thing is that I'm impressed each time after finding out.
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Love it. Great playing and sound. Really like the guitar solo.
Thanks Pete!!

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As many times as I've heard your voice, I still never know when it's you singing.
Wondering if that's a good thing or not... lol. I think the reason is because I'm still trying to "find" my voice. It's really only been a year or so since I've made any real concerted effort at this. It all started as a 'means to an end' (i.e. finish a song) and will most likely never graduated beyond that. And that's ok with me. Thanks Sam!
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Mark, what was your recording setup for the guitar solo?
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Mark, what was your recording setup for the guitar solo?
Just a recorded DI thru a re-amp chain of plugs.

The intro-lead: Poulin Legion ampsim->TSE X50 (cabinet only - Sinmix dsl80)->reafir->reaxcomp->bx opto pedal->classical chorus (lead guitar preset, slightly tweaked)

The end-lead: Poulin Legion ampsim->TSE X50 (cabinet only - FatLazy Cabs FLCPulp)->reafir->reaxcomp
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Killer rock tune Mark! Also nice to hear some real drums!!!

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Just a recorded DI thru a re-amp chain of plugs.

The intro-lead: Poulin Legion ampsim->TSE X50 (cabinet only - Sinmix dsl80)->reafir->reaxcomp->bx opto pedal->classical chorus (lead guitar preset, slightly tweaked)

The end-lead: Poulin Legion ampsim->TSE X50 (cabinet only - FatLazy Cabs FLCPulp)->reafir->reaxcomp
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Killer rock tune Mark! Also nice to hear some real drums!!!

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Hell yeah.

Fantastic!

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+1 I was reminded of Dave Mustaine here and there, not that you need any comparison, cheers!
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Sigh! feels like I need to take guitar lessons
Have you sold your soul to the devil?
Love your guitar playing and your sound!
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Hell yeah.

Fantastic!

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dude thats a really cool tune and awesome lead!!

***kept listening..*** all great tunes
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dude thats a really cool tune and awesome lead!!

***kept listening..*** all great tunes
thanks buddy!!
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Where did this song go on Soundcloud??? I need to hear this again!

Please don't tell me you "burned it all doooowwwwnnnnn" :0

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Where did this song go on Soundcloud??? I need to hear this again!

Please don't tell me you "burned it all doooowwwwnnnnn" :0

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lol... No, just did a little housekeeping. Boys in the band decided we should have our own SC page, so I moved it over there. LINK updated in first post! Thanks Sam!
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This is really great! I really love the singers voice. In the intro I thought he was going to do the yarling type singing of Creed, but then when it kicked in it turned out to have a pleasantly unique voice that fits this type of music perfectly.

I kept reading all these comments about the guitar tone and solo, and when the solo came in I could see why. Great solo and guitar tone.

The song is really catchy as well.

I only have one minor criticism. Although the mix sounds very full and professional, and your mixing skills are clearly ahead of my own, I do think there was something a little unpleasant about some of the high end frequencies. Something that made me not want to have it too loud. I compared it to Metallica's latest (I consider that to be a very well mixed metal album) I noticed with Metallica's I could turn it up very loud and it still sounded pleasant.
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So, it's not a cover?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cMlT6Jm454
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lol... No, just did a little housekeeping. Boys in the band decided we should have our own SC page, so I moved it over there. LINK updated in first post! Thanks Sam!
That's cool, I can understand a page for the band.

But what happened to the Mark Schuster page ?
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This is really great! I really love the singers voice. In the intro I thought he was going to do the yarling type singing of Creed, but then when it kicked in it turned out to have a pleasantly unique voice that fits this type of music perfectly.

I kept reading all these comments about the guitar tone and solo, and when the solo came in I could see why. Great solo and guitar tone.

The song is really catchy as well.

I only have one minor criticism. Although the mix sounds very full and professional, and your mixing skills are clearly ahead of my own, I do think there was something a little unpleasant about some of the high end frequencies. Something that made me not want to have it too loud. I compared it to Metallica's latest (I consider that to be a very well mixed metal album) I noticed with Metallica's I could turn it up very loud and it still sounded pleasant.
Thanks! I would agree on the highs. I think a lot of it is coming from the kit (OHs spec) - and maybe some from SC's bit crusher algorithm... I typically work with Toontrack, where all the kit pieces are polished and ready to use. Working with a real kit on this one was a challenge, to say the least. Listening again this morning after awhile it's clear I have some room for improvement.. lol. But - hey - that's why we love doing this stuff, right?? Thanks again man!


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But what happened to the Mark Schuster page ?
Still there mi amigo!
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