Old 08-10-2017, 06:16 AM   #3601
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Aaargh! Needs a Track Params> Show Track Fx so I can assign a button.
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Aaargh! Needs a Track Params> Show Track Fx so I can assign a button.
not in the Track Parameters
every Fx has its own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVOX...ature=youtu.be

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its always end of the list!
btw if the Fx has very long parameter list...
just right click to down arrow (in stripper browser) to jump to the end of the list.
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Old 08-10-2017, 06:52 AM   #3603
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not in the Track Parameters
ever Fx has its own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVOX...ature=youtu.be
Found that one

I want to be able to reorder the loaded fx sometimes, or see if there are duplicated fx by opening the track fx window. But it's always underneath stripper.
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Found that one

I want to be able to reorder the loaded fx sometimes, or see if there are duplicated fx by opening the track fx window. But it's always underneath stripper.
ah you mean Fx Chain then?
if so did you tried to press to 1 ?

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ah you mean Fx Chain then?
if so did you tried to press to 1 ?

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Or if you have multiple strips on a page, press TAB and drag them about

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Or if you have multiple strips on a page, press TAB and drag them about
Aah - so nice to see this actually in use properly. I know it's not quite finished as a feature - but after all the effort getting this running - I had no idea if anyone had even really noticed it
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Or if you have multiple strips on a page, press TAB and drag them about

That's brilliant

But what if you don't want to reorder the fx just the strips? And where's the delete button?
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i glad to hear, welcome then!

uTonic Programs part a little tricky
short story:
unfortunately uTonic supports just 16 program slots: Midi Program Change...as you may know..
tricky part is combining-hosting uTonic in Freestyle (Newsonicarts)
that you can import/collect all uTonic presets as Freestyle Snapshots..
in my setup there is 23 uTonics (multi out) inside the 23 Freestyles (also multi out)
and 128 snapshot/preset per instance of Freestyle
since Freestyle supports Midi Program Change to switch its snapshots
means you have hundreds of uTonic presets ready to access all the time
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in Stripper term this means: save & recall them as you want
just put Program Change parameter in your Strip ..ready to go!
Had time to check out freestyle. It seems another plugin to add to the shopping list. It's so quick to assign macros and snapshots it's insane!

Thanks for helping me empty my bank account
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That's brilliant

But what if you don't want to reorder the fx just the strips? And where's the delete button?
The point of this mode (strips lined up left to right) - is that it resembles ableton and the audio feeds from left most plugins to right most plugins then out...

But it still is in early stages - and delete needs to be easier.
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Does anyone of you guys know how to assign the bypass control of several FX to a single LBX Stripper button? Or do I necessarily have to do this via snapshots?

(The purpose is to be able to do a quick before vs. after comparison of only the processing done through FX I'm controlling through LBX Stripper.)
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Does anyone of you guys know how to assign the bypass control of several FX to a single LBX Stripper button? Or do I necessarily have to do this via snapshots?

(The purpose is to be able to do a quick before vs. after comparison of only the processing done through FX I'm controlling through LBX Stripper.)
Yep - use a macro control. (In TR PARAMS -> Other Controls)

Place macro control on strip - change to button type. In LIVE mode - right-click macro control and add parameters (add the bypass buttons - if they aren't already on the strip you will need to add them first).
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Yep - use a macro control. (In TR PARAMS -> Other Controls)

Place macro control on strip - change to button type. In LIVE mode - right-click macro control and add parameters (add the bypass buttons - if they aren't already on the strip you will need to add them first).
Works great! Thanks
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Works great! Thanks
And since I don't want/need to display the individual bypass buttons, I simply set them to a 1px sized empty image that I made.

Speaking of which...

I was wondering if I could add a background image (i.e. one that would sit behind knobs/controls) associated with each individual strip I make and save.

Obviously background images can be achieved by adding "graphics" but those don't seem to be saved/recoverable at a strip level. So I tried adding a dummy FX control that I'm not using and setting the background image to it. I noticed that you have to add that first, before adding other foreground controls, otherwise it will overlay them and there's no "Bring to front" feature on those. But even so, I noticed that control "Names" get hidden by the background image anyway in this case. So I let it go.

Evidently this is pure esthetics and nothing super important, but I thought I'd share anyway. The script is so amazing that I can only nitpick at this point.
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And since I don't want/need to display the individual bypass buttons, I simply set them to a 1px sized empty image that I made.

Speaking of which...

I was wondering if I could add a background image (i.e. one that would sit behind knobs/controls) associated with each individual strip I make and save.

Obviously background images can be achieved by adding "graphics" but those don't seem to be saved/recoverable at a strip level. So I tried adding a dummy FX control that I'm not using and setting the background image to it. I noticed that you have to add that first, before adding other foreground controls, otherwise it will overlay them and there's no "Bring to front" feature on those. But even so, I noticed that control "Names" get hidden by the background image anyway in this case. So I let it go.

Evidently this is pure esthetics and nothing super important, but I thought I'd share anyway. The script is so amazing that I can only nitpick at this point.
Works for me


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Yep - use a macro control. (In TR PARAMS -> Other Controls)

Place macro control on strip - change to button type. In LIVE mode - right-click macro control and add parameters (add the bypass buttons - if they aren't already on the strip you will need to add them first).
Wow! Really good!
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Works for me
Tried again (using "graphics") and it does work. I must've done something wrong in my initial tests. Cheers!
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The point of this mode (strips lined up left to right) - is that it resembles ableton and the audio feeds from left most plugins to right most plugins then out...

But it still is in early stages - and delete needs to be easier.
I was a bit tongue in cheek to be fair as I already knew that pressing 1 you can reorder fx without changing the strip order. I love the flexibilty.
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Tried again (using "graphics") and it does work. I must've done something wrong in my initial tests. Cheers!
No probs
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And since I don't want/need to display the individual bypass buttons, I simply set them to a 1px sized empty image that I made.

Speaking of which...

I was wondering if I could add a background image (i.e. one that would sit behind knobs/controls) associated with each individual strip I make and save.

Obviously background images can be achieved by adding "graphics" but those don't seem to be saved/recoverable at a strip level. So I tried adding a dummy FX control that I'm not using and setting the background image to it. I noticed that you have to add that first, before adding other foreground controls, otherwise it will overlay them and there's no "Bring to front" feature on those. But even so, I noticed that control "Names" get hidden by the background image anyway in this case. So I let it go.

Evidently this is pure esthetics and nothing super important, but I thought I'd share anyway. The script is so amazing that I can only nitpick at this point.
Please nitpick away - there's plenty of things that need improvement which annoy me too!! It's just that with the limited time I have to work on the script some things get added pretty quick with the intentions of improving in the future

I am puzzled by the graphics not being saved with the strips though - they absolutely should get saved with a strip and recalled with all the controls. There should be no need to fake them with dummy controls - like you say - due to the way they are drawn - it would be a pain to have to add them this way and would likely cause other problems (due to the bitmap detection method I use for quick discovery of what's being clicked).

Are you saying that the background graphics do not recall for you? If so - perhaps you could create a strip with background images that don't save/load with the strip and then send me a sharestrip (save as strip then right-click the strip and export as sharestrip file). I'd like to take a look to see what's going wrong.

I'll pm you my email and take a look tomorrow (or as soon as i can).
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Tried again (using "graphics") and it does work. I must've done something wrong in my initial tests. Cheers!
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Wow! Really good!
heh thanks! One day I need to sit and spend some time documenting all the features/controls types etc...
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that looks amazing!!

if you reckon it will run on my system - be glad to test it out (back from holiday now - just catching up on housework :| )

Will be looking at suggestions and improvements over the next few days
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that looks amazing!!

if you reckon it will run on my system - be glad to test it out (back from holiday now - just catching up on housework :| )

Will be looking at suggestions and improvements over the next few days
ah! welcome then!
probably we should remove all Page snapshots to create a template kind project to open much faster..
for now first run will take a while to load
but i couldn't delete even a single one yet
also hits to % 33 max sometimes.. i believe it should work.

just in case:
a few days ago i get a crash.. once..
error message was saying: Lua out of memory... or something similar
but i couldn't capture the image because it was total slowdown for pc
had to open Task manager and shutdown the pc.
after that tried many times ..luckly..can't reproduce so far.
anyway, will be ready to send in a few hours.

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ah! welcome then!
probably we should remove all Page snapshots to create a template kind project to open much faster..
for now first run will take a while to load
but i couldn't delete even a single one yet
also hits to % 33 max sometimes.. i believe it should work.

just in case:
a few days ago i get a crash.. once..
error message was saying: Lua out of memory... or something similar
but i couldn't capture the image because it was total slowdown for pc
had to open Task manager and shutdown the pc.
after that tried many times ..luckly..can't reproduce so far.
anyway, will be ready to send in a few hours.

(housework... brrr)
hmmm - out of memory - I don't know of the restrictions that might be in place regarding memory allocation for reascripts. Clearly with the amount of RAM you have it should not have run out of memory. If it happens again would be useful to know the exact error message.

Lua uses a dynamic memory allocation that as a programmer I have little control over. There is a garbage collection routine that Lua controls to free up memory when a script releases it (it does this automatically and there is no way of triggering it manually).

I wonder if it could be anything to do with windows stack space - which can be controlled by altering the windows virtual memory management config. For best results it's normally best to fix the size (don't let windows automatically manage it). Maybe this can be tweaked on your system.

I'm not aware of any memory leaks in the script. You can keep an eye on it using the performance monitor - RAM use. normally it will creep up when the script performs certain tasks - but then drop back down when the garbage collector runs (automatically). But as long as the RAM use doesn't run up towards your RAM total - I doubt this is the problem. This is why I think it may be to do with system virtual memory allocation.

But I'm guessing at the moment. I've never run into this problem and I've only got a measly 8Gb RAM on my studio pc.

Watching your latest fun 6 video - I notice the RAM slowly creeps up from 1900Mb to 2080Mb or so (at the end) - then when you hit the reset button at the end - it drops back to 1900Mb. So unless you were running for many hours without the garbage collector triggering - again it suggests it's not the amount of memory the script is using directly and probably more a windows system limit has been reached (stack space or virtual memory).

What are your virtual memory settings in windows?

EDIT - probably getting my terminology wrong with above - stack space might be something else - it's been sometime since I've concerned myself with such stuff.

But might be good to check your virtual memory settings just in case it can be improved - but I suspect overall - you just managed to hit a dynamic limit within Lua's/Window's memory management which might have just been triggered by specific circumstances. The fact it 'broke' your system until you rebooted suggests it might be a wider issue than simply Lua's memory management (ie. a windows issue).

Hopefully it won't happen again.
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about virtual memory...
setting up to fixed size was one of the first thing when we build pc years ago
..checked to be sure..yes its 8GB fixed.

i believe its just specific to my system
because pc was open/running last 4 or 5 days continuously..
(+ might not directly relevant but really hot summer here)
ill try to take a picture via phone if repeats

Thank you for your attention!
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about virtual memory...
setting up to fixed size was one of the first thing when we build pc years ago
..checked to be sure..yes its 8GB fixed.

i believe its just specific to my system
because pc was open/running last 4 or 5 days continuously..
(+ might not directly relevant but really hot summer here)
ill try to take a picture via phone if repeats

Thank you for your attention!
yeah- it's pretty common knowledge for music systems to have fixed sized page file - but thought I'd mention just in case.
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Hi Leon, hope your vacation went great. I'm hoping you can help me out with a problem I'm having reordering strips. Here's a gif of the issue:

http://imgur.com/a/uOCzD

Is there a way do designate the middle area as a generic default background and not part of a strip?
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Hi Leon, hope your vacation went great. I'm hoping you can help me out with a problem I'm having reordering strips. Here's a gif of the issue:

http://imgur.com/a/uOCzD

Is there a way do designate the middle area as a generic default background and not part of a strip?
ok - first have you set the height for the rows correctly in settings?

Then - is autosnap enabled in settings? I haven't tested with adding strips the way you are - could you try adding in STRIP EDIT mode with autosnap enabled - then seeing if it behaves better. It's likely happening because the strips are not lined up as it requires due to where you're dropping them onto the page. I will look into adding strips using autosnap from the right-click fav menus.

Finally - are you in 'strip' mode (cannot remember exactly what it's called). activated using \ (although this will likely centre your strips).
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FR Allow edit boxes to be dragged around the screen in fx params mode to make it easier to edit things that end up underneath at times.
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ok - first have you set the height for the rows correctly in settings?

Then - is autosnap enabled in settings? I haven't tested with adding strips the way you are - could you try adding in STRIP EDIT mode with autosnap enabled - then seeing if it behaves better. It's likely happening because the strips are not lined up as it requires due to where you're dropping them onto the page. I will look into adding strips using autosnap from the right-click fav menus.

Finally - are you in 'strip' mode (cannot remember exactly what it's called). activated using \ (although this will likely centre your strips).
I just set my row height for "556" which is the correct height I believe (I just measured in photoshop, 556 pixels at 72 dpi.)

Autosnap wasn't on. With it on, the problem still occurs when I load the strip from the right click menu. In strip edit mode with autosnap on, the strip doesn't load at all. It flashes "generating preview" but doesn't load up.

And no I don't believe I was in 'strip' mode, I pressed \ and yes it centered the strip. I do actually like this mode as it removes the small black bar at the top of stripper which was a bit of a visual nitpick for me, but when I'm in this mode and load the default strip on a new track, it displays: "Gallery view: no strips on page," although when I flip to another track and then back, it shows the default strip.
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I just set my row height for "556" which is the correct height I believe (I just measured in photoshop, 556 pixels at 72 dpi.)

Autosnap wasn't on. With it on, the problem still occurs when I load the strip from the right click menu. In strip edit mode with autosnap on, the strip doesn't load at all. It flashes "generating preview" but doesn't load up.

And no I don't believe I was in 'strip' mode, I pressed \ and yes it centered the strip. I do actually like this mode as it removes the small black bar at the top of stripper which was a bit of a visual nitpick for me, but when I'm in this mode and load the default strip on a new track, it displays: "Gallery view: no strips on page," although when I flip to another track and then back, it shows the default strip.
ok i'll have to look further into this. in strip edit mode though - you might have to be careful that the bit of the screen the strip is trying to load into is visible i think. try opening up stripper so it's larger and see if you can then drag strips in, it works ok for me but is still work in progress...
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fun7
enough 127bpm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la3j...ature=youtu.be

removed 400 snapshots now flying like hummingbird
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enough 127bpm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la3j...ature=youtu.be

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I'll add an option to delete all snapshots from a set - might make it quicker

Also an option to delete all but selected snapshot (to preserve those default RESET ones - although you could just set it first - then delete all and recapture the RESET snapshot).
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Also an option to delete all but selected snapshot (to preserve those default RESET ones - although you could just set it first - then delete all and recapture the RESET snapshot).
sounds like a melody
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Hi, thanks for this serious work...

I started to work on an 4k monitor.I'm using %200 hidpi theme and windows scaling for making things bigger.But scripts are still so small for reading and using for me
I asked to the forum about this and script Guru Mpl told me that "Script windows independent from scaling, so issue comes to scripters (option for GUI scaling right from particualr script GUI)"

What do you think about this and do you have a plan for fixing this?
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:16 PM   #3640
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ok i'll have to look further into this. in strip edit mode though - you might have to be careful that the bit of the screen the strip is trying to load into is visible i think. try opening up stripper so it's larger and see if you can then drag strips in, it works ok for me but is still work in progress...
Tried making it bigger but still no luck in dragging any strips in.
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