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12-20-2019, 11:42 AM
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v6.02+dev1220 - December 20 2019
v6.02+dev1220 - December 20 2019
- + MIDI editor: add option to allow CC shape in bank and LSB lanes (CC0, CC32-63)
- + Media explorer: fix memory leak when opening/closing window
- + Windows: make Multimonitor aware v2 mode default
- # Automation items: copy/paste to intended track when copying automation items and media items together
- # FX chain: re-create VST plug-in UI if DPI changed
- # FX chains: change FX state images when DPI changes
- # FX float windows: re-create plug-in UI if DPI changed
- # HiDPI: fix initial size of single send/hardware output window on secondary displays
- # JSFX: fix mm2 pane resizing in IDE
- # JSFX: mm2 fixes
- # Media explorer: render back/forward/parent images at various DPI settings
- # Performance meter: new-hidpi fixes
- # ReaScript: fix watch pane resize on mm2
# fix track send window when in non-mm2-dpi mode
This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests.
Changelog - Pre-Releases
Generated by X-Raym's REAPER ChangeLog to BBCode
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12-20-2019, 12:35 PM
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The font size used for control text in routing window is smaller now and harder to see.
Windows 10, 100% scaling (Multimonitor aware v2 (recommended))
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12-20-2019, 12:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
The font size used for control text in routing window is smaller now and harder to see.
Windows 10, 100% scaling (Multimonitor aware v2 (recommended)
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Confirmed on Win10, 100% scaling here too. Same on every HiDPI mode.
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12-20-2019, 02:20 PM
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Confirmed above too. Small font is also happening in Envelopes dialog.
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12-20-2019, 09:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
The font size used for control text in routing window is smaller now and harder to see.
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Also the text in plugin windows in the 'UI' section is using a smaller sized font.
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12-21-2019, 06:56 AM
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# Automation items: copy/paste to intended track when copying automation items and media items together
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Unnecessary envelope points are created after the past.
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12-20-2019, 06:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mccrabney
[*]# Automation items: copy/paste to intended track when copying automation items and media items together
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Selected MIs and selected AIs now copy/paste together! Yay!
I hope that this will be applied to the "within time selection" versions of the actions too, as well as the equivalent mouse modifiers.
As McCrabney also pointed out, all the copy/paste action ignore the "Trim content behind AIs" setting.
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# Automation items: fix offset when pasting with media items [p=2219579]
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If the selected AIs start before the selected MIs, the first MI is pasted at the edit cursor, instead of the first AI. (EDIT: I guess some users may prefer the function to work the way it currently does, giving precedence to MIs and pasting the MI at the edit cursor.)
Last edited by juliansader; 12-21-2019 at 05:05 AM.
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12-20-2019, 08:00 PM
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Thanks guys, the magical shrinking plugin is fixed, as are many of the other graphical glitches.
Still getting some graphical weirdness from certain plugins being very zoomed in and truncated on the main monitor. This is happening only on MMav2, not the normal MMa 6.0 mode. It's happening with plugins from Fabfilter, Arturia, IK/T-racks, DMG, Bluecat and others.
Most of the time checking the HiDPI box fixes it, but not always, and even then it's still messed up in the FX chain where the HiDPI switch has no effect. Bluecat's 'gain' is one of the ones causing issues, and is free to download - so you could test it with that one at your end. However, out of all the plugins that are having this display weirdness in MMv2, 'Gain' is the only one I've found that is NOT fixed by enabling HiDPI mode on the plugin, and interestingly, that one is truncated on the secondary unscaled monitor, where as all the others with issues are fine on that monitor, and messed up on the main 4k monitor... so that one might not be the best test subject! Hopefully this helps.
Send controls window is still jumbled up when I click on a send in the mixer, which is on the second unscaled monitor. However - this is inconsistent, and seems to sometimes fix itself by restarting Reaper, then randomly come back after another restart.
Reapack browse window has some graphical glitching when on the secondary (unscaled) monitor - gets worse when resizing. It's fine on the main 4k monitor.
I know this is not technically a native Reaper function, so if this should be raised somewhere else rather than here, then let me know. It definitely seems related to MMv2 though.
I'd really love to see a fix for broken toggle actions, and for the broken 'center window over mouse cursor...' SWS actions. These are a massive part of my workflow so I'll probably be rolling back until they get addressed, which is a shame as MMav2 mode is also very helpful to me.
My system is Win10, running x64, main monitor is 4k scaled at 200%, secondary monitor is 1080 and unscaled.
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12-20-2019, 09:14 PM
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Graphical glitches with the colour palette too. If the the theme tweak window is near the middle of the two screens, then you open the colour palette and it opens on the other monitor, then the colour palette is jumbled.
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12-20-2019, 09:36 PM
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Regarding the plugins truncating - turning off graphical acceleration for the fabfilter plugins in the windows registry mostly fixed this issue for them. Just letting you know in case it's helpful.
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12-21-2019, 07:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe90
Reapack browse window has some graphical glitching when on the secondary (unscaled) monitor - gets worse when resizing. It's fine on the main 4k monitor.
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Reapack and SWS will probably need some updates for this mode -- specifically, there is a hidpi branch in the WDL git repository that has some WDL_WndSizer updates to make it adapt to DPI changes...
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12-21-2019, 07:50 AM
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# Automation items: copy/paste to intended track when copying automation items and media items together
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can someone rephrase this for me? was there a problem with ai being pasted to an "unintended track?"
i ask because my thought has been that if i have an fx AI on track X, i should be able to copy it and paste it onto track Y (creating a new instance of the FX on track Y). don't think this is necessarily related to this change, but i'd like to know if we're moving further away from that FR
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12-21-2019, 08:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mccrabney
can someone rephrase this for me? was there a problem with ai being pasted to an "unintended track?"
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Yes, if the first track of copied data contained selected automation items but no selected media items, then in previous builds the data would be pasted one track below where it was intended. It's unrelated to your FR.
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12-21-2019, 07:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
Reapack and SWS will probably need some updates for this mode -- specifically, there is a hidpi branch in the WDL git repository that has some WDL_WndSizer updates to make it adapt to DPI changes...
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Pull requests welcome.
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12-21-2019, 07:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe90
(...) and for the broken 'center window over mouse cursor...' SWS actions.
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As this is likely on SWS side to fix (I'd think) I'd suggest reporting it on the SWS issue tracker:
https://github.com/reaper-oss/sws/issues
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12-21-2019, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juliansader
Selected MIs and selected AIs now copy/paste together! Yay!
I hope that this will be applied to the "within time selection" versions of the actions too, as well as the equivalent mouse modifiers.
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And Hope for moving items and Ai's ! Also this behaviour should be applied to Envelopes too. When moving coping/deleting/duplicating apply to what is selected and not the dragged type.
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12-21-2019, 08:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mccrabney
v6.02+dev1220 - December 20 2019
[*]# Automation items: copy/paste to intended track when copying automation items and media items together
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seems not working when items/ai are selected on by one:
Am i doing something wrong?
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12-21-2019, 08:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deeb
seems not working when items/ai are selected on by one:
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In general, if an envelope is selected, REAPER assumes you are pasting to that envelope. In your gif, the first time you paste, the volume envelope is selected, so the automation items are pasted to that envelope, and media items are not pasted. The second time, the volume envelope is not selected, so all selected media items and automation items are pasted to the destination track.
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12-21-2019, 08:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
In general, if an envelope is selected, REAPER assumes you are pasting to that envelope. In your gif, the first time you paste, the volume envelope is selected, so the automation items are pasted to that envelope, and media items are not pasted. The second time, the volume envelope is not selected, so all selected media items and automation items are pasted to the destination track.
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But i selected with different method. The result should be the same, no?! i need to digest your information. Thanks
Anyway in my way of thinking TBH this is too much if then else for being used by an user in an everytime time routine. This should be done thousands of times per project. And this kind of things gives a lot of frustration.
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12-21-2019, 08:43 AM
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The solution here might be for REAPER to deselect envelopes when clicking on a track -- we'll give this some thought.
Actually, all that is needed for this to work as expected is for you to click on the track itself before pasting, which will deselect the envelope.
OK, the issue is that the copy action looks at whether the envelope is selected. We'll continue give this some thought!
Last edited by schwa; 12-21-2019 at 10:42 AM.
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12-21-2019, 10:39 AM
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ok! but it's too spaguetti to work IMO. My mind is "reaper do something with what i selected" and no conditionals. Otherwise seems like editing is for robots and not for humans.
all this actions should lead to the same result - copy both item and AI:
as it should with other actions: splitting, move content, left and right edje adjustment, delete and some other mouse modifiers behaviours
edit: it's a bit out of context now .. anyway does not hurt to keep
Last edited by deeb; 12-21-2019 at 11:04 AM.
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01-27-2020, 12:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
The solution here might be for REAPER to deselect envelopes when clicking on a track -- we'll give this some thought.
Actually, all that is needed for this to work as expected is for you to click on the track itself before pasting, which will deselect the envelope.
OK, the issue is that the copy action looks at whether the envelope is selected. We'll continue give this some thought!
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Did you find a solution?. This is madness for editing unless you don't use AI or envelopes so often + no area selection is intimidating to do a song. /Me is desperate. I can't do music in reaper. It's horrible.
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12-21-2019, 10:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
In general, if an envelope is selected, REAPER assumes you are pasting to that envelope. In your gif, the first time you paste, the volume envelope is selected, so the automation items are pasted to that envelope, and media items are not pasted. The second time, the volume envelope is not selected, so all selected media items and automation items are pasted to the destination track.
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I agree with deeb. This is too complicated behavior.
Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
The solution here might be for REAPER to deselect envelopes when clicking on a track -- we'll give this some thought.
Actually, all that is needed for this to work as expected is for you to click on the track itself before pasting, which will deselect the envelope.
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Looks like that does not help. It's too late to deselect the envelope before pasting. You would need to deselect the envelope already before copying to get both media items and AIs copied.
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