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from wineHQ, version 3.7 or so, and then get the LinVst wrapper. For wine, uninstall any existing wine first. Add the wineHQ repository to your package-manager, reload the repositories, and install the new wine. (Should you need/want the windows Reaper in wine, also install 'wineasio'. and choose it in your Reaper device prefs. Sometimes wineasio needs a manual install, and a link to a second or third folder that wine is involved with. And a command must be run to register it with the system: wine64 regsvr32 wineasio.dll ) ------------------------------------------------------- https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst The LinVst wrapper provides several files, copy these three to /home/your-nik linvstconvert linvstconverttree (for wrapping folder contents recursively) linvst.so ------------------------- in /usr/bin, copy linvst.so lin-vst-server.exe lin-vst-server.exe.so lin-vst-server32.exe lin-vst-server32.exe.so After Kontakt is installed, launch linvstconvert, and a little gui opens a nice simple three-button gui First button press is 'Choose LinVst.so' browse to, and select your linvst.so then click the 'Choose dll folder' button and at the bottom of the list that opens, choose 'other', and browse to the Kontakt dll folder, and select it, then press the 'Convert' button, and a Kontakt.so will be created next to your Kontakt.dll The two must reside together at that location. Then put the Kontakt path in Reaper's scan list, restart Reaper, and you're mainly at home with the rest already. Linux Reaper needs jackd, and jack midi, so install the qjackctl connections manager gui, the details of which are nicely presented here: http://libremusicproduction.com/arti...g-started-jack jack-midi is supplied by a2jmidid, and when installed, it can be launched with command a2jmidid -j default which will place the jack-midi connector in the middle tab of qjackctl's three-tabbed connections panel. Going back through this topic, and the 'general linux reaper' topic, and even the old topic that led to these, you'll find valuable tips to build a tips text file for reference. If Kontact/Service Manager don't work at first, you may need wine 'over-rides', where some .dll provided by the wine install, is replaced by an obtained real version, and placed in /home/your-nik/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32 The command winecfg opens a tabbed config gui, and the libraries tab has the browse and label widgets to select and apply an over-ride. The latest wineHQ has benefitted from a Kontact user joining the team a while back, so you might get lucky. I rename the existing .dll file like 'name-of.dllDEFAULT', rather than deleting or moving it, to make it easy to spot in filemanagers, should I need to revert. The google search wine override kontakt even has the link to get LinVst, amid other hits. Welcome to the forum, linux Reaper is great fun, and the windows version runs well in wine, so between the two, you should find some success. Your Komplete should get a decent sale price, as the NI summer sale is upcoming, and komplete upgrade shoppers need licenses to upgrade from, at kvr marketplace forum, among others. You might get enough for the full PianoTeq etc Cheers Last edited by 4duhwinnn; 05-09-2018 at 07:51 PM. Reason: clarity spellung |
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https://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/REAPER_for_Linux
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'Smithy', has integrated LinVst with qtractor, by way of creating a .pet file. 'pets' are installers for one, or a group of related dependant files, to add functionality to a Puppy linux release. In this case, using a Puppy derivative called Artful-Pup, the dev created pets for jackd, Cadence, Qtractor/LinVst/some-MDA-effects, and Audacity, so most any of the many Puppy versions can be set up for audio production. LinVst will be available from the multimedia menu, once the qtractor .pet is installed. A basic Puppy setup is called 'frugal install', where the user boots from cd/dvd/usb, and allows the system to create a growable save-file, in squash format, encrypted if desired, and placed where it will be found in later boots. C:\ /media/usb0 /media/sdb2 yada yada Puppy also allows for .sfs files, used to add major functions at a time desired, but without permanently installing them. A .sfs file is chosen for loading by a simple utility gui. Straying towards back on topic, I've used Reaper and wine in many releases of Puppy Studio/Studio 1337, which use apps compiled with a custom RT kernel, for a fast, solid, and portable production experience. Cheers Last edited by 4duhwinnn; 05-11-2018 at 10:26 AM. Reason: clarity |
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Thanks for all the info. I will try installing wine when I get time. I guess I'll start with some simpler plugins before trying to make kontact and service center work.
I had sort of hoped there might be some software that encapsulated wine into a turnkey system specifically for plugins - rather than having to build it up with a wine system install. I guess that wouldn't be very linuxy. I have very mixed feelings about using wine at all, i'd really rather stay with native stuff, but there's so many little things missing that way. I have jack, carla, reaper linux and the native linux audio stuff working more or less fine. I don't have and don't want a working windows install of my plugins to copy files from - i am currently using them on Mac. I hope that's not going to cause extra issues. |
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I had the same problem with kontakt.
This helped me to mount the disks from the dvd drive, and was taken from a post in the winehq forums. I'd credit the poster but i can't find the original post: mount -t udf -o uid=500,gid=500,unhide /dev/sr0 /mnt Where uid and gid are your users. Modify as appropriate for your system. Alex. |
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I couldn't get Reaktor Blocks or Forms to install but they did using sudo mount -t udf Form.iso -o uid=500,gid=500,unhide /mnt and then cd /mnt and then wine "Form Setup PC.exe" Last edited by osxmidi; 05-17-2018 at 05:46 AM. |
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Quite possibly, but then I have to write it up...
I'm not sure if linvst, airwave, carla, etc really belongs in that article... I've tried to keep it short and concise, and still find it meandering... I'm also not sure that I personally would like to write an article on how to run windows vsts on linux, it's bound to take me weeks to do a good job.. Though all anyone has to do is write an email to support at cockos dot com and ask for access to the wiki...! B) P.S. I think I came up with that mount command, iirc the important part is the unhide parameter. The uid and gid actually ought to correspond to those of your actual user, just was that I happened to have 500:500 when I came up with that. Not sure at all if the uid and gid parts are needed... The unhide option is needed as otherwise it gets mounted as an os/x installer and Setup.exe won't be found.
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Thanks Jack, osxmidi and alextone, I was actually able to install Form
from the Form.iso disc. There were two other things I did, as at first the commands provided didn't komplete: I configured my filemanager not to automatically mount removable media, pcmanfm in my case, as /dev/sr0 was always 'busy', and in case the Brasero burning app I had used was limited in some way, I used the xorriso app to burn a fresh disc xorriso -as cdrecord -v dev=/dev/sr0 -dao /home/me/Form.iso Then the provided commands finished the job! Hopefully Form will go on sale soon, it's quite a fine time dropping and modding samples. I've got some made using the discoDSP Bliss sampler that will do nicely, along with NI's folder, and backup-drive lurkers. Cheers |
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I have installed Kontakt from the DVD (I had to use the unhide command as documented earlier on this thread)
I activated it using service center - it all seems fine as far as that. Service center ran fine and accepted my serial number fine. I have used LinVST successfully with some other plugins. If I try to run the Kontact app wine says that Kontakt had a major error. Likewise if I try to open reaper with the plugins in its vst path. It crashed reaper and gives the same wine major error window. So I'm not sure if I need overrides or if there is something else wrong. So if I need overrides where do I get them from? I don't have a windows install to copy files from. I allowed kontact to install in the wine internal directory structure and the copies the 64 bit plugins to my main VST folder and ran LinVST on them there. Is there a 32 bit/64bit issue here? |
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I'm about to start following these instructions, looks a bit complicated...
this one: https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?t=16524 leads to: https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=15541 Last edited by halfshavedyaks; 05-21-2018 at 09:23 AM. |
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It worked!
The output level of kontakt seems a bit low - though it sounds alright. The only other VSTi I have running through wine so far is V3B and that also seems low level is it a wine thing? |
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If wanting to use many windows plugins (especially needing overrides), using separate wine prefixes might be a good idea.
A wine prefix is a directory structure that contains the installed programs and a registry. All programs started out of it, share a wineserver and some other helper programs. The wineserver is there to make sure that applications can share resources, communicate, etc. Basically a wine prefix is a complete windows install, and the best is that you can have many of them. This is useful as they can have different dll overrides, settings, etc. It's also useful as you can make backups, have several versions of the same plugin suite installed in parallel, disable a group of plugins if they cause problems, etc. My reccommendation is to do something like this. 1 Make a dir to contain the different prefixes: mkdir ~/.wvst-prefix 2 Create a new 64b prefix: WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefix/fabfilter winecfg 3 Install needed overrides: WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefix/fabfilter winetricks ... 4 Install your plugins into the prefix: WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefix/fabfilter wine Setup.exe 5 Create the directory ~/.wvst to contain symlinks: mkdir ~/.wvst 6 In .wvst create a symlink to the dir containing the vst plugins: ln -s ~/.wvst-prefixes/fabfilter/drive_c/Program\ Files/VSTPlugins/ ~/.wvst/fabfilter 7 In reaper add ~/.wvst to the vst search pack. To speed up load time it's useful to prestart the wineserver before running reaper: WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/fabfilter wineserver -p And to stop it after reaper exits: WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/fabfilter wineserver -k & After updating the installed wine version, the registry files will be rescanned which takes time. To speed up loading after updating wine, do: WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/fabfilter wineboot -u Personally I start reaper from a shell script. I added ~/bin to contain scripts to run and put export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin in ~.bashrc. Then in ~/bin/rp I've put (slimmed down ): Code:
#/bin/bash export WINE_RT=40 export STAGING_RT_PRIORITY_BASE=40 export WINE_SRV_RT=41 export STAGING_RT_PRIORITY_SERVER=41 export WINEDEBUG=-all WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/fabfilter wineserver -p WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/ik-multimedia wineserver -p WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/komplete8 wineserver -p WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/mixed wineserver -p WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/nebula wineserver -p WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/sstillwell wineserver -p /home/jack/reaper-linux/reaper_linux_x86_64/REAPER/reaper5 WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/fabfilter wineserver -k & WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/ik-multimedia wineserver -k & WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/komplete8 wineserver -k & WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/mixed wineserver -k & WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/nebula wineserver -k & WINEPREFIX=~/.wvst-prefixes/sstillwell wineserver -k & LinVst will automatically detect the prefix the plugin is installed in, with other bridges you might have to add some extra configuration. To remove plugins from reaper just delete the symlink: rm ~/.wvst/fabfiler To make a backup: cp -r ~/.wvst-prefixes/fabfilter ~/backups/fabfilter
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I left out the uid=500,gid=500 and mounted my physical DVD installer disk fine
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The new version of LinVst-2.2-Debian-Stretch (embedded version) is not working with Fedora 28, Wine Staging 3.8 and Reaper 5.90rc9
I just formatted by drive, installed everything, made my directory with WinVST's in and followed the instructions... and now Reaper hangs on start. It eventually comes up with a quit option. If I start again it works, and the Windows plugins have appeared but if I try to load one then it hangs just like the original hang on first run. Is there some kind of test I can do to find the problem? I have run winecfg, it seems all installed and OK. Cheers!
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If it doesn't work then try going back to LinVst 2.1 (which isn't that different btw, just some added functions in LinVst 2.2). I have tested LinVst-2.2-Debian-Stretch.zip with Ubuntu 18.04 and Debian 9 but different systems might do different things. I'll try to look into it in case I've missed something. Last edited by osxmidi; 05-23-2018 at 06:17 AM. |
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Afraid neither version you suggested works
It ends up freezing when scanning the plugins until eventually I get a force quit prompt from Reaper. https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/
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leaving only one folder for all plugins, and I'd go with /home/you/.wine/drive_c/Users/Public/Documents/VstPlugins since that is where U-he windows versions, and some Native Instruments apps like to reside. To keep access to tools of the trade. I'd also use the stable Reaper 5.8, just to be lucky, installed in /home/you/REAPER ...until things get flowing again. For linux Reaper, I install in /home/me/.1111reaper-newest, with older versions named accordingly, always keeping a working version as new ones arive for scrutiny. ...named with .1111xyz because it saves scrolling in filemanagers, as there is much more frequent fiddling with the contents and rc-releases in linux than with the windows version. This will make life easier for LinVst, wine, and you. With just one folder, it's trivia to delete all the .so files before converting with a new version of linvst. If you had U-he or other plugins in the now re-named /home/you/.vst, once you get some linvst .so versions working from elsewhere, try the contents of .vst again, and if there is a regression, you'll have some plugin weeding to do. There may be some .NETframework issues from time to time, so if you saw four installlers place their own .Net, I'd try giving any crucial apps their own wine prefix, and add supporting plugins to the prefix once the main one was working. And then proper uninstalls are needed for some apps to be re-installed properly, something I need to investigate. Good luck! |
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The wine I installed was sudo dnf upgrade --advisory FEDORA-2018-0432c6a300 sudo dnf install wine-3.8-1.fc28 and maybe that's part of the problem and I can't seem to install wine staging for Fedora 27 from WineHQ. I can't get LinVst 2.15 to work either. Distros usually set rt up but apparently Fedora 28 didn't https://www.learndigitalaudio.com/li...ting-up-fedora Last edited by osxmidi; 05-24-2018 at 12:07 AM. |
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sudo dnf -y --refresh upgrade # update to the latest of everything sudo dnf -y install jack-audio-connection-kit wine # install jack, wine printf "# Default limits for users of jack-audio-connection-kit\n\n@jackuser - rtprio 98\n@jackuser - memlock unlimited\n\n@pulse-rt - rtprio 20\n@pulse-rt - nice -20" | sudo tee /etc/security/limits.d/95-jack.conf Since I wrote that article they fixed the ulimit -a bug, now you can type it and get an accurate report, when you type ulimit -a you should see the correct max locked memory and real-time priority? Is this sorted? Now inside reaper in my audio/device i have auto start jackd with: Code:
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The lin-vst-server can't start because of something that that wine version is doing (probably a bug or a library or permissions or whatever). linvst.so starts lin-vst-server using wine and that's when it stops, so that wine version is not starting lin-vst-server for some reason. There isn't much that I can do about it. If you could install a Fedora WineHQ wine version then that might be ok. I can't test LinVst with the WineHQ wine staging for Fedora 27 from WineHQ because Fedora 28 won't install it, keeps putting up errors about release keys or whatever. Last edited by osxmidi; 05-24-2018 at 04:13 AM. |
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I tried everything to get the wineHQ version installed... arrgghh!
I am hoping there will be a Fedora 28 repo soon and the signing keys work correctly. Also, there will be a new development version soon from the official Fedora repo, so maybe that will work. I updated my Fedora for audio installation guide, in my previous post I totally forgot you need to add yourself to the jack group! Code:
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I tried LinVst as far back as 1.2 and it wouldn't run with Reaper or Ardour. I have no idea what it is, but something on Fedora 28 seems to be preventing the wine child process (lin-vst-server) from starting and I havn't seen this before. If there was a problem passing the command line to wine and lin-vst-server then that could be a reason. Was Fedora 27 ok? (if you used Fedora 27). From what I can gather LinVst seems to be ok with Centos 7.4 (another Red Hat based distro). Last edited by osxmidi; 05-25-2018 at 01:13 AM. |
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I don't know what has changed in 28 that might cause this. I know they compiled everything with the latest 8.x GCC, could this have higher security somehow? That along with updating to the latest Gnome version was the main difference I think. I am not an expert on this stuff, you are saying that there is some other security process (not SELinux as I tried it turned off) that is preventing something running? Or it could be something else?
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Could PAM be something to do with it? I searched the logs (just run the logs program in gnome) and got these at about the time I started Reaper:
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USER_END pid=5869 uid=0 auid=1000 ses=3 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:session_close grantors=pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix acct="root" exe="/usr/bin/sudo" hostname=? addr=? terminal=/dev/pts/0 res=success' CRED_DISP pid=5869 uid=0 auid=1000 ses=3 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:setcred grantors=pam_env,pam_fprintd acct="root" exe="/usr/bin/sudo" hostname=? addr=? terminal=/dev/pts/0 res=success'
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I don't have much of an idea, just guessing.
Sometimes the lin-vst-server does start on some scans but then it doesn't start on other scans or when trying to open the plugin, so it's erratic. Looks like something has changed for Fedora 28 that results in erratic behaviour when trying to start a wine child process (lin-vst-server). Tracking down why might take a Fedora expert who knows what changed. |
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If you need to get more technical for some reason, When a wine app (lin-vst-server.exe) is started using the exec function (execlp) from a shared library (linvst.so) it results in erratic behaviour. ------ I tried a realtime kernel to see if that would make a difference but no difference. sudo dnf copr enable ycollet/linuxmao sudo dnf install kernel-rt-mao |
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I think I might have found a solution for LinVst and Fedora 28.
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What did you do, and is it easy to add this to the standard LinVST so it just works in the future without needing a special version? THANKS!!!!!
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Finally had some time to do some testing. I think some wine update broke a few of my prefixes so I had some problems scanning/loading plugins. Have remade 2 prefixes now.
What I can report is that the Stillwell plugins now find the registration files. Thanks a lot for fixing that.
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Does Wine interact with Jack on some system level even when Wine is not specifically being used?
After the recent wine update I've had loads of problems with jack / qjackctl hanging - and when that happens I can't get anything jack related to work right until I restart the whole machine. restarting jack isn't enough. when i started poking around trying to remove jack and reinstall then apt-get wanted to remove wine as well as if it were dependent. |
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aptitude gave me more sensible dependencies so that part may be ok now. what version of qjackctl do you recommend? I'm using Mint and have qjackctl 0.4.2 which is already quite old... (but it is what is in the repo) I really wish distros/repos made downgrades easier... Last edited by halfshavedyaks; 05-26-2018 at 12:27 PM. |
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