Old 07-09-2017, 05:12 AM   #1
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This thread is dedicated to the use of native Linux plugins and how to run them in reaper.

Discussions about running Windows VSTs on Linux are on topic in: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=193761

At the time of writing REAPER supports its builtin plug-ins (REA/JS) and Linux VST2/3 plug-ins. Linux however has more plug-in formats, like LADSPA, DSSI and LV2. Hopefully support for more formats will be added at a later date, but for the moment you can use a plug-in host like Carla http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Applications:Carla to run them.

A list of native Linux VST plugins can be found at: http://linux-sound.org/linux-vst-plugins.html
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Old 07-12-2017, 01:16 AM   #2
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Tried Carla Rack vst in Reaper with the newest ladspa Guitarix, using
GxAmplifier-X, and some typical GX plugins, without problems,
and with nice results. The plugins have some nice
colorful gui's, and Carla's dark default theme looks nice
with most anything. All in all, a very easy and effective
way forward for guitarists, with a steady stream of new/improved
plugins, and the main guitarix app getting new releases several
times a year. Added the U-he Protoverb, and zyn-reverb for some
nice tube screamer ambience.
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Oh how I wish I could use Guitarix as a real plugin without Carla/JACK
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Oh how I wish I could use Guitarix as a real plugin without Carla/JACK
If you make a FR for lv2 support, I'll +1

FWIW, I made some realtime support for linvst, that's not in the main repo. But I've played back a stereo track and recorded through Amplitube at 64 samples buffer and Guitarrig at 128 (or was it vice versa) for hours without xruns.

osxmidi also added realtime support implemented differently in the latest release, but you need to build it with a special makefile or command line argument. Maybe that will make your amp sims run better at low latency.
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Has any one tried the zynaddsubfx vst plugins in reaper?

I only get the gui for zynaddsubfx itself, for all the other plugins I just get the generic reaper gui. I did rebuild them myself with ntk support, as it appears that the default package on archlinux isn't suitable for vst guis.
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:40 PM   #6
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The guitarix plugins dsp code is written in the faust language, so it should be straightforward to create vst plugins using faust-vst, alas without the nice guis.
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Just for the record:

https://sites.google.com/site/skeiau...ladspa_wrapper

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That's what this wrapper is good for. I've tried it once in Bitwig and it worked. Still have to try it in Reaper though.
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here's a similar one, but for wrapping dssi plugins..
just as experimental/alpha/beta as the ladspa wrapper..

https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?c...nR04YKhj3htb5X

some day i will update all the plugins, the code, and that website..

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The guitarix plugins dsp code is written in the faust language, so it should be straightforward to create vst plugins using faust-vst, alas without the nice guis.
please!!
that would be awesome!!

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I briefly had a play around with the AVL Drumkits LV2 plugins in Carla. Pretty cool stuff.

I haven't tried zynaddsubfx in a long time, and not in Reaper native linux at all. Last that I read the gui would be updated and changed to a commercial license. The sound was good back then, but the gui was hideous. I guess I should check it out again, soon.
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Please, Guitarix "native"..
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I briefly had a play around with the AVL Drumkits LV2 plugins in Carla. Pretty cool stuff.

I haven't tried zynaddsubfx in a long time, and not in Reaper native linux at all. Last that I read the gui would be updated and changed to a commercial license. The sound was good back then, but the gui was hideous. I guess I should check it out again, soon.
A new 3.03 is out soon, a 3.02 rc4 bug-fix release
was just issued in the last few days.

The commercial gui is quite nice, no similariies to the existing
free versions, although I still like the ones I've had from repositories, with the synth updates included.
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Please, Guitarix "native"..
Guitarix dev has now added a built-in drumsynth pattern sequencer
instead of just using a metronome, faust for the synthesis.
So the natives are now even more restless...
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I just found the following wrapper that allows running lv2 plugins in reaper: https://github.com/x42/lv2vst

Unfortunately it doesn't support guitarix, but many other plugins work like some x42-plugins, and avl drums.
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Sweet. I will check that out this weekend. Thanks for mentioning it.
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I just found the following wrapper that allows running lv2 plugins in reaper: https://github.com/x42/lv2vst

Unfortunately it doesn't support guitarix, but many other plugins work like some x42-plugins, and avl drums.
For me, it seems a lot of Calf plugins work (with only the generic interface). x42's SetBFree works with its graphic interface. The AVL Drumkits don't work for me - they open, but the fx window won't close and won't lose focus and I need to kill Reaper. They do work well in Carla, but it would be cool to just load them as a vst.
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For me, it seems a lot of Calf plugins work (with only the generic interface). x42's SetBFree works with its graphic interface. The AVL Drumkits don't work for me - they open, but the fx window won't close and won't lose focus and I need to kill Reaper. They do work well in Carla, but it would be cool to just load them as a vst.
Yeah, I also tried calf, but no gui. The avl drumkits do work fine here, no problem to close the guis.
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Distrho ports http://distrho.sourceforge.net/ports

Scorchcrafter Amp Sim https://github.com/osxmidi/ScorchCrafter/releases

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A list of Linux Audio/Video apps

https://github.com/nodiscc/awesome-linuxaudio
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A list of Linux Audio/Video apps

https://github.com/nodiscc/awesome-linuxaudio
That's very useful, thanks!
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I just found the following wrapper that allows running lv2 plugins in reaper: https://github.com/x42/lv2vst
Nice. It even works on Mac :-)
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Nice. It even works on Mac :-)
Pity that it doesn't support all lv2 plugins with GUI, but I think this was more of a proof of concept, and would have required substantially more work to make it run everything with a full GUI.

Still very nice. So far I have it running most X42-plugins and AVL Drumkits with a full GUI.

Waiting for reaper to add support for lv2, I guess that would work on Win/OSX and Linux.
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Pity that it doesn't support all lv2 plugins, but I think this was more of a proof of concept, and would have required substantially more work to make it run everything.
At first I thought we don't need LV2 support in reaper because of this, but I have to say without the GUI a lot of plugins are too hard to use.
Anyway, very nice to have this thing!
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At first I thought we don't need LV2 support in reaper because of this, but I have to say without the GUI a lot of plugins are too hard to use.
Anyway, very nice to have this thing!
Since I bought mixbus32c + essentials the other day I thought I'd try. It seems that more or less all of them work in reaper with GUI using this wrapper. The x42 meter plugins have to be built with make EXTERNALUI=no, and the meters using a VU type GUI don't display properly. This is no big hardship for me, as I don't see what use a VU display is in a DAW.
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Anybody have any success with these new freebies from Tracktion with the native Linux REAPER? If I put the four .so files in my .vst folder, REAPER will not open. I tried just putting only the C64 one (SID) in the .vst folder, and REPAER starts, but the plugin is not listed. Any luck in other Linux DAWs?

https://www.tracktion.com/products/8bit-treats

edit: doesn't seem to scan for me in Carla either - maybe only meant for Waveform?
edit2: I installed Waveform (own it, but haven't used it in months) and after scanning, SID shows as "deactivated" - so not working there either in their own DAW...

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Anybody have any success with these new freebies from Tracktion with the native Linux REAPER? If I put the four .so files in my .vst folder, REAPER will not open.
Works for me. Most likely you did not add vst to your path. Go to
Options -> Prefernces`-> Plug-ins -VST and add the path the, Click re-scan afterwards
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Anybody have any success with these new freebies from Tracktion with the native Linux REAPER? If I put the four .so files in my .vst folder, REAPER will not open. I tried just putting only the C64 one (SID) in the .vst folder, and REPAER starts, but the plugin is not listed. Any luck in other Linux DAWs?

https://www.tracktion.com/products/8bit-treats

edit: doesn't seem to scan for me in Carla either - maybe only meant for Waveform?
edit2: I installed Waveform (own it, but haven't used it in months) and after scanning, SID shows as "deactivated" - so not working there either in their own DAW...
Hi eric71,

No joy here either.

Starting Reaper, I get:
zsh: illegal hardware instruction reaper5

And in the Renoise Log.txt, I see (for each of the four plugins):
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate /home/......../.vst/RetroPluginPackLinux/PAPU.so
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (caught structured exception) !!!

Edit:
They are blacklisted in Ardour 5.12 also.

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I can also recommend http://teragonaudio.com/MrsWatson for finding problems with vsts. Its much more verbose that what reaper outputs.

Try
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mrswatson64 --plugin SID --verbose --display-info
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Worth noting that on linux there are a few potential problems with plugins. There might be interference between reaper's use of gdk with plugins that use gdk/gtk+ for the GUI. Another problem might also occur with plugins in binary format due to a problem between programs/plugins build with gcc v4 vs later versions.

It's always a good idea to build the software on your own system if the binary version fail and the source code is available. If you get the software in binary format through your package manager it ought to be alright though
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I can also recommend http://teragonaudio.com/MrsWatson for finding problems with vsts. Its much more verbose that what reaper outputs.

Try
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mrswatson64 --plugin SID --verbose --display-info
I get this output from mrswatson:

- 00000000 000000 MrsWatson version 0.9.7 initialized, build 20140125
W 00000000 000000 Running in 64-bit mode, this is experimental. Hold on to your hats!
D 00000000 000000 Host platform is Linux-x86_64 (Linux "Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya", kernel 4.10.0-35-lowlatency x86_64)
D 00000000 000000 Application is 64-bit
D 00000000 000000 Launched with options: --plugin SID --verbose --display-info
D 00000000 000000 Trying to find plugin 'SID'
D 00000000 000000 Looking for plugin 'SID' in '/home/eric'
D 00000000 000001 Looking for plugin 'SID' in '/home/eric/.vst'
- 00000000 000001 Plugin 'SID' is of type VST2.x
D 00000000 000001 Looking for plugin 'SID' in '/home/eric'
D 00000000 000001 Looking for plugin 'SID' in '/home/eric/.vst'
- 00000000 000001 Opening VST2.x plugin 'SID'
D 00000000 000001 Plugin location is '/home/eric/.vst'
ERROR: Sent signal 4, exiting
MrsWatson (or one of its hosted plugins) has encountered a serious error and
crashed.
If you believe this to be a bug in MrsWatson, please re-run the program with
the --error-report option to generate a diagnostic report to send to support.


edit: It seems signal 4 is "illegal instruction", which is also the message I get using carla-discovery-native in a terminal.

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https://blog.wavosaur.com/category/vst-plugins/

https://blog.wavosaur.com/rave-gener...0s-stab-synth/

A new version of Rave Generator vst is out,
quite an impressive list of features:

"Mac OS X, Windows and Linux compatible VST ! + AudioUnit version for Logic users

up to 147 internal sounds.
sampler vs rompler : you can load your own samples !
you can layer samples (up to 16 sounds).
multi timbral : you can assign different MIDI channels to each sample.
editable / automatable loop points per sample.
tune/pan/volume + volume & pitch envelope per sample.
AKAIZE effect from hell for your speed garage time-stretched vooooiiiicccceees.
reverse, awful delay, green colors, working embeded keyboard.
pitch bend.

And the blog details and has demos of some of the classic
rave stabs and sounds.
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Hi, guys.

Anyone being able to load LSP LinuxVSTs in Reaper? They got scanned by don't load.

Or does lv2vst support the LSP LV2 versions to show up in Reaper?

We really need LV2 support in Reaper. That will be a real blessing. Hope it's due soon...
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Hi, guys.

Anyone being able to load LSP LinuxVSTs in Reaper? They got scanned by don't load.

Or does lv2vst support the LSP LV2 versions to show up in Reaper?

We really need LV2 support in Reaper. That will be a real blessing. Hope it's due soon...
The LSP plugins won't load in Linux Reaper due to gtk issues.

The way to run them is with a wrapper and then load the wrapper into Linux Reaper https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst/tree/linux

https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst/bl...LinVst-lx2.zip

https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst/bl...t-lx2embed.zip

For the LSP vst plugins:

The vst wrapper files are files ending in *.so

The original LSP vst files are files ending in .so

Copy lin-vst-server to /usr/bin

Put all of the LSP files ending in .so into a folder except the lsp-plugins-vst-core.so file (the lsp-plugins-vst-core.so file needs to be copied to /usr/lib/vst for plugin scanning to be successful).

Run linvst*convert to convert the folders .so files to *.so files, ie delay.so would end up as delay*.so.

Then load the *.so files into Reaper (point Reaper to search for vst's in the folder where the *.so files and .so files are, keep the lsp .so files and the wrapper *.so files together in that folder).

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That was a fast reply! Thanks a bunch, osxmidi. Going to try it.
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Hi all,
Looking for some help in finding instrument plugins that are clean. There are plenty of plugins out there, but there loaded up with distortion and other effects.
All I want is a clean piano, guitar, bass & maybe some strings.
The Zynaddsubfx has a good amount of instrument banks that can be used but I can't seem to get it so that Reaper will recognize it as a plugin.
I can run it with jack and have it tied into an input on Reaper and then record it but that's not what I want to do. I want to use it as a plugin in Reaper so that I can enter midi notes via the piano roll onto the midi track.
The U-he plugins work fine and are recognized by Reaper but all of the sounds are full of effects that I don't want. I suppose I could play with the controls on the GUI's and get rid of the stuff but these are demo versions and I don't want to waste time on something that I'm not planning on keeping & it's much easier to use something that is already close to what I need if I can find it.
I'm using ubuntu studio 17.1 and Reaper native linux runs fine on it.
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Hi all,
Looking for some help in finding instrument plugins that are clean. There are plenty of plugins out there, but there loaded up with distortion and other effects.
All I want is a clean piano, guitar, bass & maybe some strings.
The Zynaddsubfx has a good amount of instrument banks that can be used but I can't seem to get it so that Reaper will recognize it as a plugin.
I can run it with jack and have it tied into an input on Reaper and then record it but that's not what I want to do. I want to use it as a plugin in Reaper so that I can enter midi notes via the piano roll onto the midi track.
The U-he plugins work fine and are recognized by Reaper but all of the sounds are full of effects that I don't want. I suppose I could play with the controls on the GUI's and get rid of the stuff but these are demo versions and I don't want to waste time on something that I'm not planning on keeping & it's much easier to use something that is already close to what I need if I can find it.
I'm using ubuntu studio 17.1 and Reaper native linux runs fine on it.
Thank you for any help you can give me.
For pianos, I definitely recommend Pianoteq. It's not free, but the price is very reasonable and really worth it.

https://www.pianoteq.com/
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stoman,
Thank you very much, that is exactly what I want.
I unzipped the file and told Reaper where to find it and it worked right away.
Best of all the piano's actually sound like piano's and not some kind of star wars thing that no one could tell what instrument it actually is that is playing.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:15 AM   #39
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I discovered this basic sfz vst, so I thought I'd put it through the Jucer and make it for Linux.

It's only basic but I've tested it with some Kawai Piano sfz's and it seems to work https://freepats.zenvoid.org/Piano/a...and-piano.html

Compiled on Debian 9 Stretch, so it's not for Ubuntu 14.04 , Debian Jessie etc, maybe I'll get around to producing a Ubuntu 14.04 version and a 32 bit version, maybe.

https://github.com/osxmidi/SFZero/bl...ter/SFZero.zip

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Old 11-14-2017, 06:14 PM   #40
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I did download the new demo version of Zynaddsubfx-Fusion and it works fine.
When you install it, it creates a vst as well as a lv2 file.
Tell Reaper where the file is and it loads it up just fine.
The new GUI looks impressive.
One big problem I have with the demo file is that it upgrades any Zynaddsubfx program you may already have on your system to the new Fusion version.
This would probably not be a problem if you have the full paid version of the program but the demo cuts the sound output after 10 minutes so that means that all of your old versions that got upgraded will cut out after 10 minuets as well. This is not good in any way, shape , or form.
The way I see it is that a demo is something for you to try and if you like it then you get it. A demo should not be able to change your original programs.
If you do an install with this new Fusion, it does tell you before you proceed that it will upgrade your programs, and gives you the chance to back out of the install.
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