Old 07-09-2017, 05:12 AM   #1
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Default REAPER for Linux: native linux plugins

This thread is dedicated to the use of native Linux plugins and how to run them in reaper.

Discussions about running Windows VSTs on Linux are on topic in: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=193761

At the time of writing REAPER supports its builtin plug-ins (REA/JS) and Linux VST2/3 plug-ins. Linux however has more plug-in formats, like LADSPA, DSSI and LV2. Hopefully support for more formats will be added at a later date, but for the moment you can use a plug-in host like Carla http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Applications:Carla to run them.

A list of native Linux VST plugins can be found at: http://linux-sound.org/linux-vst-plugins.html
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Old 07-12-2017, 01:16 AM   #2
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Tried Carla Rack vst in Reaper with the newest ladspa Guitarix, using
GxAmplifier-X, and some typical GX plugins, without problems,
and with nice results. The plugins have some nice
colorful gui's, and Carla's dark default theme looks nice
with most anything. All in all, a very easy and effective
way forward for guitarists, with a steady stream of new/improved
plugins, and the main guitarix app getting new releases several
times a year. Added the U-he Protoverb, and zyn-reverb for some
nice tube screamer ambience.
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Oh how I wish I could use Guitarix as a real plugin without Carla/JACK
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Oh how I wish I could use Guitarix as a real plugin without Carla/JACK
If you make a FR for lv2 support, I'll +1

FWIW, I made some realtime support for linvst, that's not in the main repo. But I've played back a stereo track and recorded through Amplitube at 64 samples buffer and Guitarrig at 128 (or was it vice versa) for hours without xruns.

osxmidi also added realtime support implemented differently in the latest release, but you need to build it with a special makefile or command line argument. Maybe that will make your amp sims run better at low latency.
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Old 08-08-2017, 05:58 AM   #5
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Has any one tried the zynaddsubfx vst plugins in reaper?

I only get the gui for zynaddsubfx itself, for all the other plugins I just get the generic reaper gui. I did rebuild them myself with ntk support, as it appears that the default package on archlinux isn't suitable for vst guis.
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:40 PM   #6
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The guitarix plugins dsp code is written in the faust language, so it should be straightforward to create vst plugins using faust-vst, alas without the nice guis.
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Old 08-09-2017, 06:20 AM   #7
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Default LADSPA Plugins in Reaper Linux

Just for the record:

https://sites.google.com/site/skeiau...ladspa_wrapper

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That's what this wrapper is good for. I've tried it once in Bitwig and it worked. Still have to try it in Reaper though.
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here's a similar one, but for wrapping dssi plugins..
just as experimental/alpha/beta as the ladspa wrapper..

https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?c...nR04YKhj3htb5X

some day i will update all the plugins, the code, and that website..

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The guitarix plugins dsp code is written in the faust language, so it should be straightforward to create vst plugins using faust-vst, alas without the nice guis.
please!!
that would be awesome!!

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I briefly had a play around with the AVL Drumkits LV2 plugins in Carla. Pretty cool stuff.

I haven't tried zynaddsubfx in a long time, and not in Reaper native linux at all. Last that I read the gui would be updated and changed to a commercial license. The sound was good back then, but the gui was hideous. I guess I should check it out again, soon.
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Please, Guitarix "native"..
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I briefly had a play around with the AVL Drumkits LV2 plugins in Carla. Pretty cool stuff.

I haven't tried zynaddsubfx in a long time, and not in Reaper native linux at all. Last that I read the gui would be updated and changed to a commercial license. The sound was good back then, but the gui was hideous. I guess I should check it out again, soon.
A new 3.03 is out soon, a 3.02 rc4 bug-fix release
was just issued in the last few days.

The commercial gui is quite nice, no similariies to the existing
free versions, although I still like the ones I've had from repositories, with the synth updates included.
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Please, Guitarix "native"..
Guitarix dev has now added a built-in drumsynth pattern sequencer
instead of just using a metronome, faust for the synthesis.
So the natives are now even more restless...
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I just found the following wrapper that allows running lv2 plugins in reaper: https://github.com/x42/lv2vst

Unfortunately it doesn't support guitarix, but many other plugins work like some x42-plugins, and avl drums.
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Sweet. I will check that out this weekend. Thanks for mentioning it.
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I just found the following wrapper that allows running lv2 plugins in reaper: https://github.com/x42/lv2vst

Unfortunately it doesn't support guitarix, but many other plugins work like some x42-plugins, and avl drums.
For me, it seems a lot of Calf plugins work (with only the generic interface). x42's SetBFree works with its graphic interface. The AVL Drumkits don't work for me - they open, but the fx window won't close and won't lose focus and I need to kill Reaper. They do work well in Carla, but it would be cool to just load them as a vst.
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For me, it seems a lot of Calf plugins work (with only the generic interface). x42's SetBFree works with its graphic interface. The AVL Drumkits don't work for me - they open, but the fx window won't close and won't lose focus and I need to kill Reaper. They do work well in Carla, but it would be cool to just load them as a vst.
Yeah, I also tried calf, but no gui. The avl drumkits do work fine here, no problem to close the guis.
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A list of Linux Audio/Video apps

https://github.com/nodiscc/awesome-linuxaudio
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A list of Linux Audio/Video apps

https://github.com/nodiscc/awesome-linuxaudio
That's very useful, thanks!
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I just found the following wrapper that allows running lv2 plugins in reaper: https://github.com/x42/lv2vst
Nice. It even works on Mac :-)
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Nice. It even works on Mac :-)
Pity that it doesn't support all lv2 plugins with GUI, but I think this was more of a proof of concept, and would have required substantially more work to make it run everything with a full GUI.

Still very nice. So far I have it running most X42-plugins and AVL Drumkits with a full GUI.

Waiting for reaper to add support for lv2, I guess that would work on Win/OSX and Linux.
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Pity that it doesn't support all lv2 plugins, but I think this was more of a proof of concept, and would have required substantially more work to make it run everything.
At first I thought we don't need LV2 support in reaper because of this, but I have to say without the GUI a lot of plugins are too hard to use.
Anyway, very nice to have this thing!
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At first I thought we don't need LV2 support in reaper because of this, but I have to say without the GUI a lot of plugins are too hard to use.
Anyway, very nice to have this thing!
Since I bought mixbus32c + essentials the other day I thought I'd try. It seems that more or less all of them work in reaper with GUI using this wrapper. The x42 meter plugins have to be built with make EXTERNALUI=no, and the meters using a VU type GUI don't display properly. This is no big hardship for me, as I don't see what use a VU display is in a DAW.
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Anybody have any success with these new freebies from Tracktion with the native Linux REAPER? If I put the four .so files in my .vst folder, REAPER will not open. I tried just putting only the C64 one (SID) in the .vst folder, and REPAER starts, but the plugin is not listed. Any luck in other Linux DAWs?

https://www.tracktion.com/products/8bit-treats

edit: doesn't seem to scan for me in Carla either - maybe only meant for Waveform?
edit2: I installed Waveform (own it, but haven't used it in months) and after scanning, SID shows as "deactivated" - so not working there either in their own DAW...

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Anybody have any success with these new freebies from Tracktion with the native Linux REAPER? If I put the four .so files in my .vst folder, REAPER will not open.
Works for me. Most likely you did not add vst to your path. Go to
Options -> Prefernces`-> Plug-ins -VST and add the path the, Click re-scan afterwards
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Anybody have any success with these new freebies from Tracktion with the native Linux REAPER? If I put the four .so files in my .vst folder, REAPER will not open. I tried just putting only the C64 one (SID) in the .vst folder, and REPAER starts, but the plugin is not listed. Any luck in other Linux DAWs?

https://www.tracktion.com/products/8bit-treats

edit: doesn't seem to scan for me in Carla either - maybe only meant for Waveform?
edit2: I installed Waveform (own it, but haven't used it in months) and after scanning, SID shows as "deactivated" - so not working there either in their own DAW...
Hi eric71,

No joy here either.

Starting Reaper, I get:
zsh: illegal hardware instruction reaper5

And in the Renoise Log.txt, I see (for each of the four plugins):
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate /home/......../.vst/RetroPluginPackLinux/PAPU.so
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (caught structured exception) !!!

Edit:
They are blacklisted in Ardour 5.12 also.

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