Old 02-26-2019, 11:35 AM   #1
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I see from a previous post the best way to best copy/paste parts of song is to highlight a section, right click, making it a region, then do Ctrl and drag it to where you want it. But what if there is already a section of song where you want it? Is there a way to insert it so it moves the rest of the song to the right? In other words, how to do copy an entire section of a song and then insert it the song any place other than at the end?
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Old 02-26-2019, 03:17 PM   #2
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Regions is still the answer.
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nope, didn't work for me.
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:35 PM   #4
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nope, didn't work for me.
What you describe is how regions work. What exactly happened instead of that? If you're trying to drag a region right on top of another it won't work; drag it to the start or end. If you want it in the middle of an existing region, you'll need to split it up first.
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Old 02-26-2019, 05:10 PM   #5
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When I select a region, when I copy it and move it, it stacks on top of the other tracks, it doesn't move them all over.

I have a song with 8 tracks and the song has sections that are in 8 bar increments and they represent:

Intro - first verse - second verse - chorus - bridge - third verse

I want to copy the chorus and put it between first verse and second verse, so that everything moves over to accomodate the additional chorus.
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I'm sorry I don't know what's up with that. Never seen it happen. Holding ctrl and dragging a region makes space wherever I try to put it. It actually works in the middle of other regions too, which I didn't realize, but only the regions get layered, not the items. I do what you're describing all the time.

Think you could use licecap to upload a gif of what's happening here? Use unique item colors for each region if you would plz, so that it's really clear what's taking place. Might you have changed the mouse modifier for dragging regions in preferences?

Alternatively, you could try using actions to cut and paste contents of time selection in conjunction with ripple editing.
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Old 02-28-2019, 06:53 PM   #7
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Yeah been struggling with it for 3 days now - when I make a region I then use Ctr + drag and it just shows a bunch of red lines like time errors and it will only drop certain tracks in while not affecting others. I can copy/paste tracks but not whole sections of songs.

I also tried using Licecap and attaching file but I don't see it attached here.

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Trying to send attachment of Licecap but it says "Your file of 1.06 MB bytes exceeds the forum's limit of 64.0 KB for this filetype."
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Try uploading it here and post the link at the bottom.
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Ok uploaded it

it's the one that is titled 'copy paste region.gif'

https://stash.reaper.fm/35546/copy%20paste%20region.gif
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Seems that you're dragging a time selection and a single item.
Try click-dragging the region itself - the place on top of the ruler where the region number and name are.

If you don't have a region yet, then make one at first.
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Yeah, it looks like you are making a time selection but not creating a region.
Either, you use right mouse button + ALT to make a time selection and select the items you want to copy/move or you create a region. But keep in mind, that ALL items, that are located in the region will be affected.
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Old 03-01-2019, 08:34 AM   #13
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I've tried all kinds of stuff, from right clicking in the number area above to the ruler area, when I click the number of the Region i've selected it moves the whole page to the right.

https://stash.reaper.fm/35547/copy%2...%20region2.gif

Might you give me a really detailed step by step it looks like there are a lot of areas to click on that could be wrong....
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Old 03-01-2019, 08:35 AM   #14
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Mcurran,
Have you figured this out yet using the help here? I am trying to do exactly the same thing as you are for about three days now too.

If you get this done please post and tell me how, and I pledge to do the same if I figure it out.

Thanx and good luck
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Thanks much Judders for posting this YouTube Tutorial.

I watched it once but will review it repeatedly over the weekend and create samples to better understand it.

It's becoming very clear that creating and naming sections of the songs and labeling them by color makes it MUCH easier to edit and navigate them.
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:57 AM   #17
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No problem!

Thank Kenny for making all these videos freely available.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:25 AM   #18
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I appreciate that there are people willing to help and thank you mcurran, Judders and Kenny.

I have it now. Success... it sounds so sweet!
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I appreciate that there are people willing to help and thank you mcurran, Judders and Kenny.

I have it now. Success... it sounds so sweet!
Glad you got it figured out.
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Old 03-01-2019, 04:02 PM   #20
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Well I'm glad to see Chicago figured it out but I watched that video twice and spent two hours on it and once again I am unable to get it to move or copy anything.

In the video Kenny has created and labelled a region, and seems to be hitting the 'modifier key' which I am assuming is Ctrl on the PC and left clicking the mouse up in the Region section - all I'm getting is a hand that moves everything around.

I cannot seem to get that modifier handle to show up.

https://stash.reaper.fm/35548/copy%2...%20region3.gif
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Oh for heaven's sake I was trying to move a marker, not a region. I got it now.

Easy to confuse Markers with Regions.

Once you create a Region, it's best to name it and color code it.

THEN you can put your cursor on it, then hit Ctrl+Left Mouse button [on PC] and drag that Modifier arrow over to wherever you want to copy the Region.

Seems like it would be easier on future builds of this software to allow the operator to simply highlight the section and copy/paste/move just like one would intuitively do it.

I've seen a lot of people get hung up on this and a lot of hours wasted trying to do this simple operation.

Now on to the next hurdle!
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Can you move Regions to a new project?
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Can you move Regions to a new project?
you can copy / paste the contents of a region to another project, yes, but if it is a "new" project the easiest way would be to do a "save as..." and delete the regions you don't want
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:48 AM   #24
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anyone using regions and markers should be using Heda's region/markers from item script. it lets you use/edit empty items in dummy tracks to control your regions and markers. this makes for much easier editing/copying between projects, and is in general a better way to manipulate these tools

https://reaper.hector-corcin.com/app...smarkers-items

as i always mention whenever i recommend this script, i wish more scripts existed like this -- esp for tempo envelopes. REAPER is great at editing its items, but lots of other stuff is very cumbersome. scripts like heda's let you use more fully functional editing behavior to handle the clunkier stuff.
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Ripple editing and regions is the way to go, or copying items within a given time selection
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Seems like it would be easier on future builds of this software to allow the operator to simply highlight the section and copy/paste/move just like one would intuitively do it.
Well, that's also possible - highlight the section you want to copy press ctrl+ shift+c.
Then paste it with ctrl+v.
I haven't tested it, but if ripple editing is on for all tracks, then pasting might push the following content further, thus making room for the pasted content.
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Old 05-01-2021, 07:43 PM   #27
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Why is it the case that the most important thing in editing anything, copy and paste, is almost impossible in Reaper? Why can't we just drag, see our selection change color, go elsewhere and Control-V it in? There are tons of youtube movies on how to do this in Reaper and they are all ridiculous. It should be natural. All other software has figured this out.
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Why is it the case that the most important thing in editing anything, copy and paste, is almost impossible in Reaper? Why can't we just drag, see our selection change color, go elsewhere and Control-V it in? There are tons of youtube movies on how to do this in Reaper and they are all ridiculous. It should be natural. All other software has figured this out.
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