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04-07-2018, 05:48 AM
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REAPER CONTEST - APRIL 2018 (RESULTS)
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For April user Grass has chosen the song It's In These Times by the band Rovers Ahead. It's a fun song to work on that can be better understood by having a cold Guinness next to you.
As always you can download the multitrack from the website or clicking on this link.
Happy mixing!
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04-07-2018, 05:51 AM
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Welcome to the new and old users!
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04-07-2018, 07:45 AM
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Hi
I'm new to this and want to say thanks for doing this. Its an awesome idea and bonus feature to the REAPER community.
I'll give it a try as a new user it will be a super challenge to develop workflow!
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04-07-2018, 02:25 PM
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Hey D Rocks thanks for checking it out! . hope you'll enjoy it!
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04-08-2018, 01:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D Rocks
Hi
I'm new to this and want to say thanks for doing this. Its an awesome idea and bonus feature to the REAPER community.
I'll give it a try as a new user it will be a super challenge to develop workflow!
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I can definitely say that the contest does speed up the learning curve a good amount. ANY little thing that I have need to know has been available with little more than asking a question or watching one of the Kenny G Videos and I am off and running.
I can't even imagine what I'll have Reaper doing in a year from now...
Gotta say the Feedback portion is a huge bennifit also.
Happy Mixing!
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04-08-2018, 04:42 AM
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Oh yes thats awesome man. There are some paid monthly subscriptions elsewhere for these contests and I feel like this one here is even better.
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04-10-2018, 10:55 PM
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Just when you think you're done... Dang it!
Accordions and Banjos
- Images of horrible school recitals, mixed with a trip in a canoe in the deep forest?
I WILL make everyone I know listen to this at Christmas!
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04-11-2018, 06:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Not_Here
I WILL make everyone I know listen to this at Christmas!
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Just don't make them watch the video.... a bit of a downer compared to the song.
BYOB- Bring Your Own Banjo
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04-11-2018, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dug dog
Just don't make them watch the video.... a bit of a downer compared to the song.
BYOB- Bring Your Own Banjo
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Gotta guzzle that Jameson on Christmas!
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04-11-2018, 05:54 PM
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Has this thread become a meeting for alcoholics anonymous?
Ok I start.
Hi, my name Dave and haven’t touched a single bottle of Jameson in 6 months.
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04-11-2018, 07:56 PM
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Hi, I'm Dave too, and I haven't touched any Jameson...Because it would have to share the counter top with my Bunnahabhain.
Umm which I have for, ummm, purely aesthetic reasons... and medicinal.... and just in case I need to have a toast with those flippin little Leprechauns that keep showing up everytime I start mixing this song...
Wait.. what was the question?
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04-12-2018, 08:08 PM
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Hey guys,
I've loaded in the project tonight and mixed for 3 hours straigt haha! It's so fun to listen to this song. I like the mood and groove. Its a big challenge for mixing as it got many sounds compeeting the voice range. But man I like this contest.
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04-12-2018, 09:51 PM
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Sorry to bother by asking again, but why aren't we allowed to glue anything? I've done a few splits to make the mixing easier and want to make sure I'm not breaking any rules, hah.
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04-12-2018, 10:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
Sorry to bother by asking again, but why aren't we allowed to glue anything? I've done a few splits to make the mixing easier and want to make sure I'm not breaking any rules, hah.
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If I'm understanding all this Reapin' stuff: If we split a media file then Glue it back together we create a new media file (.flac, .wav, etc..)
which we would then have to upload with our final mix and .rpp file.
Also helps keep our upload size smaller so that the contest doesn't eat up a huge amount of server space (my guess on that)
Also too if none of us have glued any track splits, then we all have an identical set of files. Which is cool at feedback time. All I would have to do to show what I did is post my .rpp file and anybody could load up my session with no fuss no muss. Dig?
I'm sure there are other administrative reasons :::cough Dave cough::::
too that I may not be fully aware..
If you're not wanting to accidently move a file out of time (ask me how I know) then you can lock the file after you do what ever needs doing.. Then it wont budge a ms..
How do I get rid of all these damn Leprechauns?!
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04-12-2018, 11:16 PM
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I didn't know that gluing actually created new wav files. That makes sense.
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04-14-2018, 10:05 PM
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Is there a native EBU meter in reaper... Or a JS to set it to -14?
I have one, but it ain't native...
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04-14-2018, 11:24 PM
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We can use a 3rd party EBU to set LUFS
I've been using You Lean
I think on the contest site it has links to a couple others also
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04-15-2018, 01:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Not_Here
We can use a 3rd party EBU to set LUFS
I've been using You Lean
I think on the contest site it has links to a couple others also
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oh, OK! cool.. Thanks!
It's fine.. I've got the TB one. I was just trying to use something native.
Isn't this month's song a blast or what? I'm whistling it and singing it at work, and all my co-workers are wondering WTF I'm singing lol!
I learnt a lot about mixing because of this little beauty. Thanks a million for holding this contest!
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04-15-2018, 05:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by g4greg
oh, OK! cool.. Thanks!
It's fine.. I've got the TB one. I was just trying to use something native.
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I use Reaper’s SWS Loudness-analyser to match ”-14 LUFS integrated” target.
First I render the file, import it automatically to session and then let the Loudness-calculator to calculate the file. That way I doesn't have to listen the whole song again and again.
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04-15-2018, 01:15 PM
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Submitted! Neat song. I'm very much looking forward to listening and seeing how everyone else handled it!
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04-16-2018, 01:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Not_Here
I'm sure there are other administrative reasons :::cough Dave cough::::
too that I may not be fully aware..
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Nah, just that
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04-17-2018, 05:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by g4greg
Is there a native EBU meter in reaper... Or a JS to set it to -14?
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I found one implemented in JSFX: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=140881.
If you already have one, I presume it's fine to use it to adjust the levels of other effects, then remove your one afterwards. (I wanted a JSFX one for portability/security reasons.)
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04-17-2018, 02:02 PM
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WEBSITE UPDATE:
I added a chat on the website! It does pretty much the same thing as the contact page but it's a bit more user-friendly and you can chat directly with me for any issue you encounter!
Can you please go on the website and see if you also see any text Italian in the chat? I'm trying to understand how to change the language of some predefined stuff but no luck until now.
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04-17-2018, 02:43 PM
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Here's what I see (USA)
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04-17-2018, 02:43 PM
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Scrivi qui il tuo messagio....
EDIT: Dex beat me to it.
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04-17-2018, 02:46 PM
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It means "write here your message...". But I can't find where to change the language. That field is not editable.
Has anyone ever built a website with wix and is able to help me? Otherwise I'll probably write to the help desk.
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04-17-2018, 03:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by g4greg
oh, OK! cool.. Thanks!
It's fine.. I've got the TB one. I was just trying to use something native.
Isn't this month's song a blast or what? I'm whistling it and singing it at work, and all my co-workers are wondering WTF I'm singing lol!
I learnt a lot about mixing because of this little beauty. Thanks a million for holding this contest!
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Lol nice one me too. Its sticks in my head!!
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04-18-2018, 10:08 PM
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It gets great looks from people when I pull up to stoplights and have it at about 102db. Good times!
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04-19-2018, 05:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Not_Here
It gets great looks from people when I pull up to stoplights and have it at about 102db. Good times!
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Hahaha awesome mostly in non christmas times haha
Btw Ill be finishing my mix attempt tonight
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04-19-2018, 02:25 PM
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Ok this is the first time I actually give up mixing a song. I can't seem to get rid of all the sibilances of the lead vocals and my ears can't bear it anymore.
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04-19-2018, 04:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveKeehl
Ok this is the first time I actually give up mixing a song. I can't seem to get rid of all the sibilances of the lead vocals and my ears can't bear it anymore.
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Nooooooo! say it isn't so!
But I know what you mean.. Dude has a voice that's been ripped apart with drink and smoke. It IS authentically - Irish smoke filled pub vocals huh? Dig it!
I figure I'll turn in what ever I have done by deadline. I am not a mastering engineer, so it is what it is...
But it has been a great teaching tool and actually a fun song to work on instrument-wise. Well... That damn Ride cymbals bell make me want to scream.
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04-19-2018, 05:16 PM
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I made some production decisions right at the beginning... hope no one minds. Sleighbells didn't feel right yet and the banjo timing was not good.
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04-19-2018, 07:23 PM
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Timing? uh oh.....
There was timing in this little ditty?
Irish sleighbells are NOT American jingle bells...
And how many keys was this song in at once?
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04-19-2018, 10:02 PM
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woo hoo just uploaded my participation on the website
Thanks for this opporunity it was very nice and it gets me into the real thing for my first steps in Reaper. I'm used to Cubase.. All my muscle memory is wierd now since its not the same software haha Gotta get used to it.
Good night
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04-19-2018, 10:30 PM
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Whale-oil-beef-hooked
In spite of these damn little Leprechauns runnin around like they own the place -
Submitted now before they make me mess it up again. for the like 4th time. Thank the Saints for save every few minutes. Totally saved me being able to start again where I was on Monday night. You know what they say, Third time's a charm.
Now be gone you wee lil beasties! git! scram! kick rocks!
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04-20-2018, 06:50 AM
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Can you guys check on the website if you see the submissions page and the chat still in Italian? It should be in English now
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04-20-2018, 08:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveKeehl
Can you guys check on the website if you see the submissions page and the chat still in Italian? It should be in English now
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In english to me
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04-20-2018, 04:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveKeehl
Ok this is the first time I actually give up mixing a song. I can't seem to get rid of all the sibilances of the lead vocals and my ears can't bear it anymore.
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Noooo! I was looking forward to it
Kenny Gioia's video on de-essing saved my life for this song.. but yeah, it's like he actually pronounces his esses LOUDER than actually trying to control them. Very hard to deal with .. A few hints on mic technique wouldn't hurt him at all..
I usually slap on my favorite de-esser, and forget about it.. But it's not native, so I had to get creative...
His technique of side-chaining reaEQ with reacomp saved my arse big time here
Can't wait to hear the other mixes.. this bad boy wasn't easy by any means, but it was very instructive
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04-20-2018, 08:35 PM
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+1 on the Kenny De-Essing video.... I kinda like knowing how to do that with an eq and comp on a side channel, and how to do it manually too.
De-essing plugin? phooooey....
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04-21-2018, 01:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Not_Here
+1 on the Kenny De-Essing video.... I kinda like knowing how to do that with an eq and comp on a side channel, and how to do it manually too.
De-essing plugin? phooooey....
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Like I said, I learned a lot while mixing this beast... And Sidechaining an EQ to a compressoer for de-essing is one of them.
I'm not so sure I'm going to use my good ole de-esser again as well..
I really like the control the reaplugs offer.
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