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12-03-2017, 08:00 AM
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Administrator
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NY
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ARA support in REAPER
Is coming.
Last edited by schwa; 12-03-2017 at 08:19 AM.
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12-03-2017, 08:07 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lincoln, UK
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Woo!
That just auto-woke me from suspended animation. Time to dust-off and fire-up REAPER again...
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12-03-2017, 08:10 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Location: Krefeld, Germany
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Awesome !
I'm forwarding this to a friend of mine who does use Melodyne and Reaper.
-Michael
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12-03-2017, 08:12 AM
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12-03-2017, 09:21 AM
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12-03-2017, 09:29 AM
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Human being with feelings
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OMFG!!!!
THIS IS EPIC!
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12-03-2017, 12:10 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Is coming.
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GREAT!
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12-03-2017, 12:16 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Maine
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Copuld someone explain in simple words: what the heck is ARA anyway? And would it help a midi and notation based guy like me?
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12-03-2017, 12:20 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by michael diemer
Copuld someone explain in simple words: what the heck is ARA anyway? And would it help a midi and notation based guy like me?
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The main use case is for audio processing. It allows plugins like Melodyne to quickly analyze the audio from the track/media item. If ARA isn't available, the audio needs to be played manually into the plugin in realtime, which can be very time consuming and annoying to do.
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12-03-2017, 12:23 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by michael diemer
Copuld someone explain in simple words: what the heck is ARA anyway? And would it help a midi and notation based guy like me?
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No, it won't help you anyway.
http://www.celemony.com/en/service1/...es?checkLang=1
"ARA allows a DAW and plug-in to exchange information about the audio file, tempo, pitch, rhythm and much else besides and thereby work considerably more closely together. The plug-in is closer to what’s going on in the DAW and therefore runs more smoothly and efficiently. The DAW, for its part, can integrate the plug-in far more fully and make more targeted use of it – as though the plug-in were part of the DAW."
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12-03-2017, 12:26 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Thank you Xen and Vit. I can see it might be helpful. I do use plugins, so why not?
Would it help VSTi as well as VST and other plugs?
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12-03-2017, 12:29 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by michael diemer
Would it help VSTi as well as VST and other plugs?
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It works with plugins that implement it. (There are very few of them, can be counted with the fingers of one hand.) Existing VST etc plugins without ARA capabilities are not affected. I don't see many use cases for instrument plugins, but who knows if there could be some.
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12-03-2017, 12:31 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by michael diemer
Would it help VSTi as well as VST and other plugs?
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It is mostly created for plugins such as Melodyne, Vocalign etc.
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12-03-2017, 02:33 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Is coming.
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Thank you!!! Schwa, you're the best!
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12-03-2017, 02:47 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Is coming.
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OMG!!! I think I'm coming too! ...
This is/was the only thing missing in Reaper!
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12-05-2017, 05:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Area52
OMG!!! I think I'm coming too! ...
This is/was the only thing missing in Reaper!
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12-05-2017, 06:24 AM
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#17
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Fantastic news, thanks Devs!!
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12-05-2017, 06:27 AM
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#18
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Reaper HAS send control via midi !!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by guitarfrenzi
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mup text file export for best notation for Reaper.
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12-03-2017, 03:45 PM
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Location: Illville - Germany
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Is coming.
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I am afraid this means only flat foods again, right?
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12-03-2017, 04:06 PM
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#20
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2017
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YESSSSS! How wonderful! Count me in as a Reaper user now. Talk about good news ... That's all I was hoping for and more. What a great, responsive team you are!
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12-03-2017, 04:41 PM
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Pixel Pusher
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Blighty
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I'll just leave this here, cough:
and, for no particular reason, here's a REAPER logo formatted exactly like the logos on that page, just in case anyone might want it for some reason or other...
Last edited by White Tie; 12-03-2017 at 04:50 PM.
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12-03-2017, 04:54 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Location: Spain
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Tie
I'll just leave this here, cough:
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All those "DAW" things... they can keep dreaming to become one day some kind of "Rapid Environment for Audio Prototyping"
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12-03-2017, 05:20 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 472
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Sweet!!
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12-03-2017, 05:23 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 610
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Thanks a lot
Time stretch and item position change seems to be working great. What about transfering audio ?
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12-10-2017, 09:28 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Tie
and, for no particular reason, here's a REAPER logo formatted exactly like the logos on that page, just in case anyone might want it for some reason or other...
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Do you mean....
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12-10-2017, 09:50 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 13,336
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timothys_monster
Do you mean....
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Yes, there is no Reaper on that list.
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12-03-2017, 09:13 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skinnybones Lampshade
YESSSSS! How wonderful! Count me in as a Reaper user now. Talk about good news ... That's all I was hoping for and more. What a great, responsive team you are!
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Now you know what Cockos is all about.
Just so you understand what I'm mean: I bought 5.0 about 2 years ago. Since then, her's what they've added, from the top of my head:
- a notation editor
- a lot of improvements to the MIDI editor (still not perfect, but very usable now, compared to what it used to be)
- sub projects (the ability to include projects in a project)
- super powerful automation items, on par with the best out there
- half a dozen new audio stretching algorithms
- stretch markers to edit stretching manually
- non destructive spectral edition
- remote control via HTTP
- and now ARA
... and countless bug fixes and smaller features.
Yet the current version is 5.62, - the latest the greatest -, these are not even considered a MAJOR update. Meanwhile the community has added dozens of pro looking themes, SWS extensions, scripts, the Reapack packaging manager, hundreds of in depth tutorial videos and a great user manual.
ALL FOR FREE !
You get now why the Reaper users are the happiest users ?
Welcome aboard !
Last edited by lolilol1975; 12-03-2017 at 09:27 PM.
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12-04-2017, 12:08 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 584
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This.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lolilol1975
Now you know what Cockos is all about.
Just so you understand what I'm mean: I bought 5.0 about 2 years ago. Since then, her's what they've added, from the top of my head:
- a notation editor
- a lot of improvements to the MIDI editor (still not perfect, but very usable now, compared to what it used to be)
- sub projects (the ability to include projects in a project)
- super powerful automation items, on par with the best out there
- half a dozen new audio stretching algorithms
- stretch markers to edit stretching manually
- non destructive spectral edition
- remote control via HTTP
- and now ARA
... and countless bug fixes and smaller features.
Yet the current version is 5.62, - the latest the greatest -, these are not even considered a MAJOR update. Meanwhile the community has added dozens of pro looking themes, SWS extensions, scripts, the Reapack packaging manager, hundreds of in depth tutorial videos and a great user manual.
ALL FOR FREE !
You get now why the Reaper users are the happiest users ?
Welcome aboard !
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12-04-2017, 03:58 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Great! This Sonar user has popped for the sixty bucks and the inevitable learning curve.
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12-04-2017, 04:05 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
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Wonderful news.
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Thanks Justin & Co !
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12-04-2017, 12:44 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Los Angeles
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MEGA SUPPER UBER THANK YOU!!!
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12-04-2017, 01:16 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Location: Norway
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Is coming.
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Without knowing the code-side of this,
I think it's a wise move.
It was one thing that made me sometimes tell new users to maybe look for another DAW.
You rock
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12-04-2017, 03:35 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 133
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This is totally amazing. Really looking forward to this.
Thank you.
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12-04-2017, 07:34 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Damn!
Great news.
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12-04-2017, 08:50 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2006
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After a few years away from Reaper, trying to make Sonar work for me, I moved back to Reaper earlier this year. Only thing missing, for me, was ARA. So, Yay!!!
Anyhow, for those who aren't tracking this, or aren't familiar with Melodyne -- there's a rather nice BF discount for upgrades running on multiple sites. Much cheaper than can be found on Celemony's site. Here's one:
https://plugindiscounts.com/brand/celemony/
If you must have tempo editing, the upgrade from Essential to Editor is only $133, for instance. No multi-tracking, of course, but very few people will actually need this, rather than just wanting it.
If you own fairly recent versions of other DAWS, you probably have an included license for Essential. Off the top of my head, that includes at least Sonar, Studio One, and Waveform. Probably all the others in Celemony's compatibility list. Otherwise, you may still be able to buy a license for Essential for $49 on one of the discount sites, though I think that's deal's over. For now.
And -- if you have a friend who owns multiple DAWS, they likely have multiple Essential licenses. To the best of my knowledge, these are not linked, and can be transferred. Not trying to sabotage Celemony's marketing, or trigger a tsunami of begging for free licenses, but there are marketplaces at KVR and Gearslutz, among others.
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12-05-2017, 09:00 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Is coming.
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How is the audio to midi handled ?
Studio one actually handles that great (pretty much the only thing it handles great is melodyne to be honest)
And the beatmapping stuff for using tempo maps.
Exciting stuff by the way
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12-05-2017, 09:59 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Location: London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gpunk_w
How is the audio to midi handled ?
Studio one actually handles that great (pretty much the only thing it handles great is melodyne to be honest)
And the beatmapping stuff for using tempo maps.
Exciting stuff by the way
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My experience with ARA audio to MIDI in Melodyne in both Studio One and Samplitude shows that the conversion doesn't recognise the note off of the audio so you end up with a bunch of midi notes without the correct duration of the audio. Anyone else noticed this?
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12-07-2017, 01:22 AM
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#38
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Human being with feelings
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Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
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Jaw drops on the floor !!!!
WOW, still can't believe it.
Thousands thanks
Chuck
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05-17-2018, 08:47 AM
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#39
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Any Idea When?
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05-17-2018, 08:47 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Wow you're late.
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