METRIC - Theme for Retina | HiDPI display monitor

[pixeltarian]

i know the perfect synth for this:

[Fergler]

Holy yes

[Jeffsounds]

OK, what are the minimum specs I'm going to have to look for in a display in order to use this. I'm really liking this theme but I'm going to have to upgrade my current monitor to use it.

[jrengmusic]

Originally Posted by Blankfiles

Nice !! I love this way beautiful

Thanks!

Originally Posted by pixeltarian

i know the perfect synth for this:

Originally Posted by Jeffsounds

OK, what are the minimum specs I'm going to have to look for in a display in order to use this. I'm really liking this theme but I'm going to have to upgrade my current monitor to use it.

Upgrading monitor for a theme?

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[ivansc]

The irony of this is that I just bought Mixbus32c as I have a pair of 1920x1200 monitors, which fits their minimum spec.

The mixer controls and surrounding legends are so damn small I cant see them.
Fortunately the folks at Harrison are lovely people and are switching me back to Mixbus4, which displays better!

So I have avoided buying a High DPI monitor, which probably wouldn't work too well for reaper using my usual themes, in order to use another soft that I basically just mess around with....

*sigh* 32c looks SO pretty, too.

[jrengmusic]

High resolution monitor along with HIDPi/retina support is inevitable. The future is coming!

[Lestat66]

Metric, Metric!!!

[TonE]

Thanks for sharing, we need now svg support for Reaper so anyscreen could use it. On my small laptop everything looked huge, meaning useless. But cool, if I used with a bigger screen.

[jrengmusic]

MCP Analog vs Metric

[Rogie]

Originally Posted by TonE

Thanks for sharing, we need now svg support for Reaper so anyscreen could use it. On my small laptop everything looked huge, meaning useless. But cool, if I used with a bigger screen.

Yes.

I'd love to try this on my single 20 inch monitor.

[sightlessness]

Originally Posted by jrengmusic

MCP Analog vs Metric

Is it too hard to make a custom action in photoshop to reduce everything to 100% (200% is hidpi right?) and just modify the config file of it so we mortals can use it? (I know it's not hard to make a custom action in PS ofc, you open all files and click play and it auto modifies the file down to 100% and saves it -overwrite ofc-). I have a 4k TV and I know if I bought a new pc with a gtc titan something I could use this as it, but right now I can't even output my laptop video higher than 1080*1920. I even got win 10 but to no avail.

This theme is so awesome... sigh...

[jrengmusic]

Scaling images from any size to whatever size you want is easy, if you’re not bothered with scaling interpolation, aliasing, or that kind of stuff.

The thing is, the way REAPER scale themes is not that simple. There are yellow and pink lines for example, for defining which part of the image should not be stretched, where is the active clickable area, etc. which uses 1 px border in both scale (normal vs hidpi/retina). So it’s not direct scaling multiplication/subdivision.

Moreover, REAPER 200% scale is different on OSX and Windows, currently not all element are using double scaling on OSX vs Windows. So, things could be really complicated to have a theme which support all kind of situation.

At this point, this theme has more than a thousand images. Though not everything is a unique asset, iterating each image to support both scaling on both OS would take a lot of work.

[BRBWaffles]

Originally Posted by jrengmusic

Scaling images from any size to whatever size you want is easy, if you’re not bothered with scaling interpolation, aliasing, or that kind of stuff.

The thing is, the way REAPER scale themes is not that simple. There are yellow and pink lines for example, for defining which part of the image should not be stretched, where is the active clickable area, etc. which uses 1 px border in both scale (normal vs hidpi/retina). So it’s not direct scaling multiplication/subdivision.

Moreover, REAPER 200% scale is different on OSX and Windows, currently not all element are using double scaling on OSX vs Windows. So, things could be really complicated to have a theme which support all kind of situation.

At this point, this theme has more than a thousand images. Though not everything is a unique asset, iterating each image to support both scaling on both OS would be a lot of work.

That does sound like a lot of work. What if we pay you?

https://www.gofundme.com/METRICv51080p

[sightlessness]

Already changed the images' size. What would I need now to change on the rtconfig file? I wanted to pm you but the button "send message" doesn't work.
And if you told me to desist, I would understand. It's your theme.

[jrengmusic]

Originally Posted by sightlessness

Already changed the images' size. What would I need now to change on the rtconfig file? I wanted to pm you but the button "send message" doesn't work.
And if you told me to desist, I would understand. It's your theme.

If you insist to do it by yourself...

These are steps to update themes to HiDPI/Retina support, so basically you should do the opposite

Originally Posted by Justin

For purposes of people updating other themes to HiDPI/Retina support -- I wouldn't do this yet, really, as this stuff is in flux. But if you insist on doing it for your own enjoyment, knowing that they will likely break before a releasable version gets released, here are the things to know:

• make the images double-size-ish, except for item_*
• make double-size-ish item_*_hidpi (for Windows)
• roughly double most font sizes in the theme
• add a global_scale 2.0 line to the rtconfig.txt

Originally Posted by Justin

Yes, this is a mess. Retina/HiDPI work vastly different on each platform (or between Windows 7, 8, 8.1, 10, 10 Anniversary Update, and apparently a forthcoming Win10 update for that matter)...

Be careful with images with pink yellow/lines, they will not work straightforwardly just by changing the size of the image.

Also take note that, this theme uses a lot of custom macro which may or may not work at the downsized scale.

As the original post titled this is a Work In Progress, currently there are a lot of major changes in assets and logic arrangement from the downloadable version from my website. Whatever changes you've done in the current WIP version will look and work significantly different from the final release.

[jrengmusic]

Originally Posted by BRBWaffles

That does sound like a lot of work. What if we pay you?

https://www.gofundme.com/METRICv51080p

let me think about it...when the goal is reached

[sightlessness]

Alrighty thanks.

[jrengmusic]

Analog | Metric

Summa

Auxiliary

Equilibrium

[SBK]

So nice and futuristic at the same time, but so confusing too (the first screenshot only)
Its like from many years ahead

[pipelineaudio]

Unreal! I need a bigger monitor

[sightlessness]

Looks so damn good, too bad we can't use it (some of us) lol.

[pipelineaudio]

So what sort of monitor do we use this on? I like to use two monitors side by side, not sure what the new formats are

[jrengmusic]

Using 4K displays, 5K displays, and Ultra HD TVs with your Mac

The article above mentioned third party monitor which support retina display on mac.

I guess any monitor which has similar specifications as mentioned in the article could be used as HiDPI monitor on Windows.

[ivansc]

So sad thaT ON MY TINY LAPTOP THE RECENTLY POSTED SCREENSHOTS LOOK A FUZZY MESS. bET THEY WOULD BE THE SAME ON THE STUDIO MACHINE, SO ALL i CAN DO IS WATCH WITH ENVY AS THIS DEVELOPS.

oops sorry about capslock

[jrengmusic]

redesigning mcp

[jrengmusic]

recarm

[ivansc]

Now if you could only bring that look off 100% in Reaper I would start saving for a 4k monitor!

[jrengmusic]

Originally Posted by ivansc

Now if you could only bring that look off 100% in Reaper I would start saving for a 4k monitor!

actually the analog face of Metric is indeed that look but viewed from different angle, with ortographic 3D projection.

otherwise, realistic 3D perspective is impossible with REAPER theme haha.

[ivansc]

|Yeah, I know, but it may well be by the time I save up for a 4k monitor!

[jrengmusic]

experimenting with lights for track selection

[Rogie]

Originally Posted by jrengmusic

experimenting with lights for track selection

Yup.

Brilliant,

...excuse the pun.

I like what's going on with the 4 tracks on the far left.

[Doc Brown]

I think I just soiled myself...

Originally Posted by jrengmusic

experimenting with lights for track selection

[jrengmusic]

so small tweaks, so many images to render

[+NRG]

Amazing / creative / beautiful work! Thanks for sharing your efforts! So futuristic and Sci-Fi! I wish I could take this for a spin. Maybe, at some point I’ll get an upgrade...

[sightlessness]

If anyone succeeds in converting this to 1920*1080 resolution please share. Thanks (if that were ok to the author ofc).

[jrengmusic]

M


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two more layout to go...

[sightlessness]

Oh lord, again, I am drooling all over this... lol

[jrengmusic]

[heraldo_jones]

so freaking amazing!!!!! I'm really excited about this theme.

[+NRG]

Awesome work! I’d love to know how many hours you’ve put into this...