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08-05-2019, 06:30 PM
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v5.981+dev0805 - August 5 2019
v5.981+dev0805 - August 5 2019
+ AIFF: support reading FP files encoded with incorrect bits/sample field
+ Media explorer: faster item navigation via arrow keys with large databases
+ Windows: improve appearance of various ReaPlugs when resizing
+ Windows: improve appearance of various windows during resize
+ Windows: improve docker appearance during resize
# meters: fix overdrawing midi indicators
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08-05-2019, 07:34 PM
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re: the windows resizing flicker improvements; don't expect a total elimination of flicker/artifacts when resizing things, but it should be quite a bit better...
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08-05-2019, 08:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
# meters: fix overdrawing midi indicators
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yay
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08-05-2019, 08:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
re: the windows resizing flicker improvements; don't expect a total elimination of flicker/artifacts when resizing things, but it should be quite a bit better...
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Resizing CC lanes in the MIDI editor is unfortunately the same, as before.
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08-06-2019, 03:24 AM
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About resizing and dock,
we still have the undesired vertical scroll arrangement issue when resizing docked or switch between several docked elements.
(tested on win 10 x64)
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=220630
as resizing docked elements is a very common action, it is a bug I face often, which is problematic in big projects.
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08-06-2019, 04:43 AM
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getting weird black boxes in TCP, can't track down the cause. maybe multiple envelopes in the media lane? the black boxes moves on track resize
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08-06-2019, 04:49 AM
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Midi editor no flickering.But flickering on media explorer and fx browser now.
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08-06-2019, 04:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mccrabney
getting weird black boxes in TCP, can't track down the cause. maybe multiple envelopes in the media lane? the black boxes moves on track resize
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Is that the stock default 4.0 theme? what layout? Edit: nevermind, I think I have this fixed anyway
Last edited by Justin; 08-06-2019 at 09:09 AM.
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08-06-2019, 05:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
don't expect a total elimination of flicker
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Though at some point it would be very nice It will look solid and be very cumfy for the eyes :P
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08-06-2019, 06:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Raym
Though at some point it would be very nice It will look solid and be very cumfy for the eyes :P
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May I suggest linux?
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08-06-2019, 06:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
May I suggest linux?
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No.
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08-06-2019, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
May I suggest linux?
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Oh I'm so onboard with this especially with the AMD processor benchmarks obliterating windows 10. As soon as someone can figure out how to get UAD and iLok to work on linux I'm switching.
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08-06-2019, 09:27 AM
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iLok probably never, since it's a low-level system driver. You cannot WINE that I don't think. Not to mention the market share for Linux in audio is so small, it isn't worth developing for it from perspective of many bigger companies.
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08-06-2019, 10:16 AM
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Sorry, bad joke.
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08-06-2019, 10:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Stevie_
Resizing CC lanes in the MIDI editor is unfortunately the same, as before.
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Hmm can't reproduce any significant flickering, anyway -- want to make a video of your screen (using a phone or whatever if necessary), and also include a bunch of system info?
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08-06-2019, 10:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
Hmm can't reproduce any significant flickering, anyway -- want to make a video of your screen (using a phone or whatever if necessary), and also include a bunch of system info?
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Your wish is my command :P
Video:
https://nextcloud.stephanroemer.net/...dPPzLSqTbt4LQ3
System Specs:
Windows 10 x64, i9-9900X, Radeon RX460 (2GB)
Screens:
1x 3440x1440
1x 2560 x 1440
1x 1920 x 1080 (touch screen)
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08-06-2019, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
+ Windows: improve appearance of various windows during resize
+ Windows: improve docker appearance during resize
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Dang, this is awesome! Looks much better now!
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08-06-2019, 11:16 AM
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I'm getting some odd midi meter visuals.
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08-06-2019, 11:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
May I suggest linux?
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Already there I think if you were able to manage a built-in system to bridge Windows VSTs (something a little more user friendly than LinVST) you would see a LOT more people switch.
Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
iLok probably never, since it's a low-level system driver. You cannot WINE that I don't think.
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Actually, the ilok manager does work in Wine but you can only authorize via cloud or hard disk. You still would need to bridge the plugin though and I wouldn't really trust disk based authorization.
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08-06-2019, 11:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Klangfarben
I think if you were able to manage a built-in system to bridge Windows VSTs (something a little more user friendly than LinVST) you would see a LOT more people switch.
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While opening probably the largest can of worms Costco can provide.
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08-06-2019, 11:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesPeters
While opening probably the largest can of worms Costco can provide.
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Yup, didn't say that would be easy. But LinVST works well. It's just not the easiest to manage, especially re-bridging everything when a new version comes out, etc. But it can be done.
A big thank you to osxmidi as well!
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08-06-2019, 01:12 PM
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My contextual toolbar that should open when my mouse is over tracks is not opening.
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08-06-2019, 02:22 PM
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The latest update also broke the script
Script: Mouse_position_dependant_actions.eel
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08-06-2019, 02:35 PM
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Can anyone get the first metronome beat to play when using REAPER's built-in tone generator? REAPER seems to be skipping it for both metronome and click source item.
Last edited by daxliniere; 08-06-2019 at 02:44 PM.
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08-06-2019, 02:40 PM
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All crash causes are broken mouse API from SWS. If this is presented in the final release, there will be many complaints
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08-06-2019, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by srdmusic
As soon as someone can figure out how to get UAD and iLok to work on linux I'm switching.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
iLok probably never, since it's a low-level system driver. You cannot WINE that I don't think. Not to mention the market share for Linux in audio is so small, it isn't worth developing for it from perspective of many bigger companies.
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You can run iLoks remotely with VirtualHere. You can even install the VirtualHere server on a $21 embedded device like a Raspberry Pi or your NAS!
https://www.virtualhere.com/home
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08-06-2019, 02:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daxliniere
You can run iLoks remotely with VirtualHere. You can even install the VirtualHere server on a $21 embedded device like a Raspberry Pi or your NAS!
https://www.virtualhere.com/home
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You can run the VirtualHere Server software on Linux. However, the VirtualHere Server emulates the real dongle on the local machine and since the dongle hardware is not recognized in Linux, you can't use it on the local machine. You still need the iLok manager software and can only authorize via disk or cloud if supported by the plugin.
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08-06-2019, 04:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daxliniere
Can anyone get the first metronome beat to play when using REAPER's built-in tone generator? REAPER seems to be skipping it for both metronome and click source item.
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There's an option in the prefs to use a tiny fade-in on playback start.
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08-06-2019, 04:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanick
All crash causes are broken mouse API from SWS. If this is presented in the final release, there will be many complaints
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Unfortunately SWS needs to be updated to address this.
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08-06-2019, 04:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
Unfortunately SWS needs to be updated to address this.
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If possible, it would be cool to have a native BR_GetMouseCursorContext replacement in that case, because this function didn’t always work accurately. It didn’t return all the elements. For example
Snap offset position marker and item buttons for example was not included.To return TCP controls (knobs) wood be supercool!Dreams)
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08-06-2019, 06:41 PM
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I'm going to work on updating the existing SWS API to work (and making a few tweaks to the REAPER side to make it easier).
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08-06-2019, 06:54 PM
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Thanks Justin, you rock!!!
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08-07-2019, 02:43 AM
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Maybe you could also consider notation editor for mouse cursor context. E.g. getting item (for continuous view), pitch, event, time under mouse.
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08-08-2019, 05:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
iLok probably never, since it's a low-level system driver. You cannot WINE that I don't think. Not to mention the market share for Linux in audio is so small, it isn't worth developing for it from perspective of many bigger companies.
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I think there is a way to get iLok to work for any licence that can be stored on the system or cloud instead of on the physical USB ilok because that does not require the driver.
The bigger problem for me is UAD. There are just so many great emulations that would need to be replaced.
I'm probably going to upgrade to the 64 core/ 128 thread AMD when it's out at the end of the year. It will be interesting to see the benchmarks between Windows and Linux on that new Threadripper.
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08-08-2019, 05:54 AM
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Yeah I was thinking of the plugins that require the dongle itself. They aren't happening on Linux probably ever.
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08-08-2019, 06:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewFalcon
If possible, it would be cool to have a native BR_GetMouseCursorContext replacement in that case, because this function didn’t always work accurately. It didn’t return all the elements. For example
Snap offset position marker and item buttons for example was not included.To return TCP controls (knobs) wood be supercool!Dreams)
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BR_GetMouseCursorContext was an amazing tour de force by Breeder, but I also think an upgrade is needed. In the MIDI editor, BR_GetMouseCursorContext is slow since it needs to parse the active take's chunk, doesn't work in the notation editor, and is sometimes inaccurate since the chunk doesn't reflect certain corner cases of the MIDI editor layout.
REAPER can either replace BR_GetMouseCursorContext entirely by a native function, or add a few new API functions (similar to the recent GetItemFromPoint) to help BR_GetMouseCursorContext execute faster and more accurately.
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